Possible Dress Code For Christmas Party….
In response to various MOL members who have questions about our cult leader much as did Dorothy and Co. with the wizard, MOL NW has undergone considerable risk and expense to secure the following photo of the MOLCULT director and his wife. Obviously all his teeth, and she’s no slouch herself. AP7NW
Courtesy of Meggers
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And You Think You Have Marriage Problems…….
courtesy of Meggers & DrRevDm
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BIG ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
Jude 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness
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Lisa has not returned.
JR is not dead.
John has not been concieved.
He has been forced off TV.
His “Apostles” have denied him or have been accused of child molestation.
He has attempted to steal the wives of 2 church members,one while he was still married himself.
Doyle called Jack Small a Prophet until he stole his wife and children,now he says Jack is evil.
He told a sick woman not to take her medicine,a baby is now dead.
Lisa did not go to Isreal,even tho doyle said GOD told him she would go with him.
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v. 21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD ?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
Drool has updated his page 11/14/09. The updated information is the same as the old information. It’s a miracle. Praze Gawd.
Oh my gosh! I just saw that video! That is so retro! Really sweet!Like they look so totally right. You know? And wow. Speaking French and everything. That is so neat. I bet we could dance to that…
Me and the band have been playing all the major halls in the southern half of Eastonia so is kinda hard to practice my religion and keep up with the goings on in your part of the world. I did want to warn Tiffani though as she reminds me of a girl I once knew.
Here is a clip of our biggest hit ever:
Oh Bill. If I’d met you before I met TGL – I’m just – I can’t begin to put it into words. Good luck on the tour… AP7NW
There was a time when I would have mentored the heck out of a young woman such as Tiffani but sadly those days are behind me. Find someone that uses those products they sell on late night tv.
Maybe MOL Goat will…..Tiffani does seem to be interesting???rab
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good to see you back, Bike Bill!!!! don’t be a stranger, ok?-cp
Sat 2 – Doyle revealed one of his past miracles that I had never heard before. Some woman told Doyle that her husband had left her so Doyle told her to bring in a pair of the man’s underwear. Doyle prayed over the errant husband’s underwear and ‘lo and behold the husband returned to his wife a couple of weeks later. Now I’ve heard it all, the laying of hands on jockey shorts. Kind of sounds a little gay, Doyle.
Boxers or briefs? Clean, or dirty? Inquiring minds need to know. AP7NW
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Now this is going a little too far, no wonder he hadn’t mentioned before…..back when he was a better con, he knew better, now he flat just doesn’t know any better cause he flown over to the dark side and his little red devil is making him say silly things…OMG! this is just awful how crazy this man is….and all the people sitting there…don’t question it? you gotta be kidding….rab
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He’s not lying…. I remember the people, and I remember the story- but I can’t remember their names! Now, as far as any “miracle” goes, I can’t say that happened- but I remember this story.
(I think DD has kept a journal all these years and pulls out a good one, when he needs a story).
cp
Tiffany
A while back I spent some time with Raheem in a Yugo somewhere close to Broken Arrow Oklahoma. I was a little out of sorts at the time and its all a bit fuzzy but I distinctly remember Raheem dancing with what I think were 3 naked women and a goat.
I like Raheem and he once leant me $4.57 without me asking more than once but I do want to caution you: Young women should never look him directly in the eye.
Bill – thank the Lord. You’re back! Would you like to be an official MOL mentor? I really don’t
wanthave time to mentor TIffani, what with everything else going on. AP7NWLooks like Doyle might have had some doubts that the South Bend folks would be able to pull off the new WOL prayer routine so he brought a recording of the Plano folks yelling so that the show from South Bend wouldn’t bomb. Attendance looks very low, approximately a dozen adults.
Tiffani is so bright and cheery today that she reminded me of a joke. Its not a dumb blonde joke (Tiffani would never remind me of that). Its a socialist joke. A man was lounging around with his socialist wife one saturday morning, when the phone rings and she answers it. After a moments pause, she speaks in a loud, agitated voice, “How would I know that?? That’s over 200 miles away!” and hangs up. The husband asks, who is that, dear? The socialist wife says, “some woman asking if the Coast is clear.”
To: Profitess
From: Tiff
Hi! Good morning! Happy weekend! Um, I can’t do any MOL stuff today? ‘Cause Daddy says I have to go find a job. Can you believe it? He says now that I’m out of school, I have to learn how to make money. That’s so not fair. He’s even putting a limit on my credit card. AND, he says I might have to move out of the house. Just because “the economy’s gone south” – whatever THAT means. Anyway, I’m so mad at him that after I find a job, which should only take like an hour, because well – look at me! – I’m going to Amber’s to hang out and spend the night. So, anyway, I can’t hang out with you today, but have fun and all.
Tiff
Halo Tiffani. Is Raheem. Special surprising for yoo tonite. Raheem will be picking up yoo in MOLCULT Limo for nite outside town. Going to be seeing “Mens Who Be Looking At Goats”. Is new movie and sure to be getting Oscar. Yoo can be uppingdating Raheem on yoo researching on Zoroastronauts. Later, gator. Is Raheem. Relatingship is going good, no?
I had e-mailed KFC about her recent dissertation, er, I mean HOMAGE to her hero and admonished her for being biased and dishonest, and I told her that we expect more from the Elect Lady of Plano in the future.
I told her also that, when writing about Doyle’s life, she in no different that other religious people who pick and chose the verses they like and overlook the ones that do not support their views.
This should be interesting! Let’s see what is in this lady’s heart. The truth? or her American Idol?
Halo Tiffani. Is Raheem, MOLCULT Apsotle 2nd Class. Being busy getting tent cleaned up for yoo to come be NewWaf. Raheem is being forward looking to teaching yoo stuff about MOLCULT. Yoo may want to be reading up (yoo can read up, can’t yoo?) on Zoroastrianism cause is huge threatening to MOLCULT teachings. Kinda is to MOLCULT what Masonic Lodge is to Wollers. Also gonna send yoo e-mail splaining why Socialism is gonna make problems for when yoo wanna go to the Mall. Raheem looking forward for yoo teaching stuff to Forum as Apostlette-in Training. How that goin? Got ny good stories yet? Don’t be letting Mag mess yoo head up. Just be listening to voices in yoo head. Hay. Work for Doily. Maybees we rent jet and go prostitute—uh—- proselytize at Disney World. Lotsa wicked unbelievingers ride Space Mountain. Later. Is Raheem.
Friday Night Update: So KFC is “looking into” the Schlosser trial? Looking for what? Doyle has re-written the transcript in his own head to reflect his interpretation that the whole trial was all about HIM. Although this has been exhaustively covered, a few points bear repetition. The Prosecutor subpoened Doyle. WHY? That Mrs. Schlosser killed Maggie was beyond dispute and not even contested by the defense. Texas and it’s Prosecutors are no-nonsense folks but even they had no interest in executing a woman who was OBVIOUSLY mentally ill. On the other hand, they couldn’t just let her off; she had to be stopped from doing this kind of thing again. Doyle was called to testify for ONE REASON. The crime Dina Schlosser committed was rife with ‘religious’ overtones. The Jury needed to see just what kind of loony she had as a ’spiritual advisor/pastor’. The Prosecutor did what Prosecutors/Lawyers do to people who are brought in to testify: they punch your buttons to get you to reveal what you truly are. Doyle, with the lack of impulse control that he has, did EXACTLY what they expected he would do. The jury saw Doyle (and Dina) for what they were and justice was rendered. Doyle was NOT ON TRIAL. But in his NARCISSISTIC head, he thinks he was. The ONLY REASON HE TESTIFIED was so the Jury could see WHY Dina acted as she did. KFC can read and re-read the trial transcript until she is blue in the face. If she has any degree of intellectual honesty left, she will see what Doyle did to Dina–teaching an obviously sick woman that her mental issues were ‘demonic’ and that ‘prayer’, not professional help–or anti-psychotic MEDICATION, was the answer. Maggie Schlosser was the one who paid the ultimate price for Doyle’s deluded and twisted theology. Today Doyle just rolls on. Why? Well, people, EVIL exists in this world and it will continue to wreak havoc until people recognize it for what it is and take action. The Wollers, AND KFC, need to look into their own hearts and recognize that by supporting Doyle in his madness, THEY TOO bear responsibility for the results of the WOL teachings. And that means that THEY ALSO BEAR SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DEATH OF MAGGIE SCHLOSSER. The Nuremburg War Crimes trials after WW2 taught us that the responsibility for evil does not solely rest with those at the very TOP of a command structure. ALL OF US have a responsibility to confront and stop madness and evil when we see it. Doyle isn’t a Mass Murderer BUT if YOUR teachings result in death and disease, YOU bear at least some responsibility for those results. The Wollers have seen Doyle up close for years. They know what he is. Those who have left have revealed that they had doubts all along but suppressed them. Like the post-WW2 Germans, they simply cannot credibly say, “We didn’t know what was going on.” The Germans knew. AND THE WOLLERS KNOW. It is IMMORAL to live with your head in the sand and BLINDLY follow ANYONE–especially someone so manifestly evil as Doyle. I hope, for her own sake, that KFC gets her eyes opened when she ‘looks into’ the Schlosser case. Because she’s going to get a ‘look’ into the black soul of the REAL DOYLE DAVIDSON.
Ah ha, so KFC will be doing research on the Schlosser trial. This breaking news comes after Doyle no doubt read this forum where questions were raised about KFC activities or lack thereof. Ummmm!!! This will be interesting. I certainly don’t expect KFC to be anywhere near accurate.
I can guarantee you, by the time KFC’s done, the Schlosser trial is going to turn out to have been not about Maggie and her family at all, but about Doyle. I’m sure it was all a socialist plot to destroy Doyle. AP7NW.
seems like doyle reads this forum quite often. he has responded the next day to comments posted by Bob, Meg, and others. haven’t seen any responses to Tiffani yet.
perhaps he read my last post when I said that God would reverse our socialist trend after doyle passes…so now he is giving biblical grounds for socialism?? don’t get me started on that. (yes, I have read the book of Acts) or maybe it is all just coincidence. much calmer now, a mol goat
Mr Goat- (from Cheryl)…. humf… I’m hurt- he hasn’t railed on me yet!
I guess I’m not worth mentioning.
Maybe I should take it as a compliment?
Cheryl
socialism is in the bible? jerk off said that in his thursday night vomit session,,,,,
HI Vincent- thanksfor posting the 411 on J.O.
Just one problem, I can’t find “socialism” in my Concordance.
H m m …..
Cp
Poor Paul Peters. In the first song Friday night Kathy Mai’s recorded voice was very prominent and with Basil and Paul on stage together it looked like Paul was singing with the lady’s voice.
Speaking of KFC, Doyle announced Friday night that she will be researching the Schlosser trial. Luckily I had just put down my can of Pepsi when he said this or my computer screen would have gotten a Pepsi shower for sure.
To: AP7NW
From: Tiffani
Re: Stuff
Oh my gosh. I still can’t figure out how to pronounce your name. Can I just call you Profitess? Um, did you know that you’re not spelling that correctly? So, can I stop sitting on my hands? When does my training begin? When do I get to dance? Where am I dancing? What kind of music will there be? What should I wear? Am I going to do a solo? So what’s the deal with this Raheem guy? And who’s this RAB person? What does RAB stand for? And who’s Isabel? Why does she hate me? I didn’t DO anything to her. I’m not sure I’m gonna like this cult. It’s making me think too hard. I only graduated high school…
To: Tiff
From: AP7NW
Re: The above
You’re just gonna be high maintenance, aren’t you, you little twerp? Okay. Lesson #1: When I tell you to do something, do it. But, since you HAD to interrupt while I was digging for buried treasures in Small White’s litter box, we might as well get started mentoring.
Can I just call you Profitess?
Yes.
Um, did you know that you’re not spelling that correctly?
You wicked, wicked Jezebel infested product of the public school system. In MOL it’s spelled Profitess. Who are you to question the Rev? Do you think he’s stupid?
So, can I stop sitting on my hands?
My answer would have been no, but you didn’t listen, did you? You had to go and post. Unless you typed with your toes.
When does my training begin?
As of this post.
When do I get to dance? Where am I dancing? What kind of music will there be? What should I wear? Am I going to do a solo?
All in good time. It depends when Rev calls the next meeting of the cultshack. We’re too informal to have regularly scheduled
performancesworship services.So what’s the deal with this Raheem guy?
Raheem is one of the Elders of MOL. He’s a bit of a lech, but only because in his country, it’s okay to collect wives like socks. I’m not sure he does much with ‘em, other than have ‘em herd his goats.
And who’s this RAB person?
Rosie is the High Profitess of MOL cult.
What does RAB stand for?
Really Awsome Babe.
And who’s Isabel?
Isabel is our International Ambassedress to the Four Acorners of the World. In other words, she ministers to the non-MOLnuts.
Why does she hate me?
Because she can.
I didn’t DO anything to her.
You joined up. You’re younger. You’re a threat.
I’m not sure I’m gonna like this cult.
Doesn’t matter. You’re in it now.
It’s making me think too hard.
Well, right there’s your problem. Rev does the thinking for you.
I only graduated high school…
And your point is?
Sheer conjecture on my part, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kathy Small picking up stakes soon and heading back East. She’s had some time now to put some money away and should not be totally broke like she was the first time she wanted to run but wasn’t able to. I think I’m seeing a little strain between her and Doyle lately, possible because the the new attention he’s been showing to Luann. We could be seeing the stage being set for Waff #4.
Let’s see…. I wonder how old LuAnn is? I don’t know, but I’m guessing that she’s certainly NOT older than Candace…. so would Doily really go after a girl his GRAND-Daughter’s age? And would her Mom and Dad let her?
With men that run around, and have multiple women in their lives, like Doily, there’s no security for the “wife”- there’s ALWAYS going to be someone younger, prettier, thinner, sexier, — whatever.
I too, wouldn’t be surprised if KS moved on to $greener pasture$…. just so she could take her Caddy and clothes and jewlery with her… but with Doily that ain’t gonna happen.
I’m SICK of this “saga”— for crying’ out loud! Why doesn’t he just called it the FLDS- multiple wives, whites only! and be done with it already. cp
whhhhooooaaa! I thought I was the KFC of MOLCULT!!?!
Tiffani, gurl, you don’t know who you messin wit!
it’s ON, gurl!!!
GOD BLESS YOU!
Isabel
Oh my, this forum has really become EVEN more entertaining with Tiffany arriving on the scene. You ladies really know how to jazz up a posting. Yeah, I know, we men are booring, but hey, keep up this really good work. Speaking of KFC (Katherine Currier), has she dropped off the radar? Any guest appearances? Any more demons keeping her from her destinations? KFC, you could have been Waff #3 but maybe you are holding out for $2K a week. It will not surprise me to hear that Waff #3 is no longer and you can move up. Got to leave Colorado though.
hi David: this is pure conjecture but my guess is KFC is walking up and down the outside of DIA (Denver Intl Airport) looking for a cab to take her, and possibly her luggage she recovered to Buyers, CO.
Oops I meant , Byers!
As for her being another WAFF, I don’t think so- I think the Doily will be looking for something young, like, this LuAnn? One that could actually have fertile eggs that aren’t overaged like K Small’s. I watched last night. Appeared inibriated- slurring words and his tell tale sign: constantly leaning on blue chairs and getting in people’s faces- usually when he does that, he’s had few snorts. It’s creepy he’s giving Lark’s daughter SOOOOO much attention. If I were Lark….. nah, nevermind, Lark is too infatuated with DD himself to stop any hanky panky that may come up in the future between Drool and LuAnn.
cp
Oh: and if there are people that think DD is “monogamous”…. think again.
SPECIAL MASSAGE FROM RAHEEM TO MOLCULT FOLDING CHAIRS: Halo, allbodies in MOLCULT. Is Raheem. Yoo maybees be wondering where Raheem has been being for long time. Raheem is telling yoo now. Raheem has been being in WAR and has been comingover. (Ed: He means ‘overcoming’) Allbodies will be remembering when Raheem used to be writing notes to Rosie Brucie, Cupcake. K.O. Raheem confessing now that he want Rosie Brucie to join hareem. Gawd say so, He telling Rahaam was in Big Plans. Rosie not so keen on Gawd’s Big Plan. She say she not gonna join Raheem Hareem. Maybees cause she already married to Allanguy, got kids, house, business, all that. (hay, is CULT, so what is problem?) So Rosie Brucie been listening to Lying Allanguy and Wicked Friends and be telling Raheem to bug off. Raheem load up on goat sauce and go to Rosie Brucie house to be explaining to her why she is to be Raheem’s Waf. Here is where tings starts to be going way wrong. Raheem is 5 feets 4 inch tall, 115 pound. Allanguy is 9 feets tall, ways 400 pounds (more/less) and is not wussy like JR. When Raheem wake up in Plano jail, be having to get bailed out. Now Rosie Brucie is still cupcake but Raheem sensing marriage to Raheem not working out. Raheem NOT gonna be calling Rosie Brucie names like Doily call Lisa cause bruises only now be starting to clear up and casts coming off in about week and Raheem remember Allanguy saying someting about not pushing it just before Raheem lose conscious. So Raheem be wanting Rosie Brucie AND ALLANGUY to be knowing that, no matter what yoo be saying and begging for, marriage is off. Plano Cops explaining this to Raheem in VERY clear, easy to understand words. BUT, is not all bad news. Gawd say that he be giving Raheem NEWWAF. Name is Tiffani. Tiffani not be knowing this yet and sometings gotta be working out but Raheem will be letting MOLCULTERS be knowing details as Gawd directs. Raheem wanting MOLCULTERS to know that Raheem ancestors come to this country so Raheem can be in this CULT. MOLTCULTERS tink Raheem was bus driver. Is true but not so true; kinda like stories Doily tell. Raheem is really DOCTOR. Yes, folding chairs. Raheem is graduate of Kabul School of Chiropracticing (is extension course from University of Missouri). Yoo not be knowing this, right? Yoo wicked unbelievingers. Gawd tell Raheem long time back to be selling his Chiropractice and join MOLCULT. Seeing? Is all working out like Big Plan. Gawd say Raheem gonna be Main Apostle of MOLCULT, be hooking up with Tiffani and making real baby, not like Doily imaginary son John. Raheem not like Doily; it not dead down there. If yoo be reading this, Tiff, just be knowing yoo in for hay, hay, good time. Also can be driving new limo and be getting new furniture for tent. Raheem be talking again to MOLCULT as Gawd directs. Later. Is Raheem.
Well Raheem, you’ve really done it now….there can only be one cupcake, muffin, etc on this forum and that’s me! So, here’s your warning from the most lowest….keep your words of endearment different….I have some pride yoo know…!
Besides, Tiffani sounds like a real gold digger…not that I don’t like gold…my safe full of gold just arrived yesterday and I’ll be ready to buy anything I need when our dollar is no longer useful….but i digress, getting back to you Raheem….I don’t understand how a little bit of bruises from my Alan could of even bothered you one bit. You see, Alan is VERY TALL and I like to say HUSKY…GORGEOUS AND ADORABLE….and he is really a nice guy once you really get to know him….I bet if both of you sat down and discussed ME, well it would be very pleasant….I could serve cookies and tea while you both discuss litte old me….now I’m not saying I would ever go against my marriage vows, but it’s not sin if you dream is it? Oh yeah, it is….okay, how about we just forget it….I’m on the road to Heaven, and right now I don’t need any sidetracking! Well Goodbye Raheem, it was fun playing with ya at least? rab
Hey forum,
The article Isabel is referring to can be found here
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200912/rosin-prosperity-gospel
I don’t really agree 100% with the premise, I just posted it as more evidence of the great apostasy we are seeing in our culture.
I believe the sin of covetousness is at the root of our economic woes. This is a sin that is common to man – both secular men and religious men. What the prosperity gospel has done is give the approval of the religious system to the sin of covetousness.
And yes Doyle’s group is a good example of this because Doyle has always used material blessings as evidence of Gods approval of ones life.
Here is the Bibles response to such teaching
1Tim 6:5
Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
Intercult Memo – COnfidential
Um, dear Mentor person:
It’s me. Tiffani. Who is this Raheem guy? Does he really have a limo? I love limos! And I LOVE the mall! Is he like really cute or what? Except it sounds like he’s already married. But he says something about a thousand smackings. You know when people say “a little smack on the cheek” and they mean a kiss? That’s what he means, right? How do I pronounce your name, anyway? AP7NW? And so like I was saying the mall and the limo sound really cool, but I’m not sure if he’s seeing somebody else. And so what do I do? ‘Cause I want to fit in to MOL and learn all about it and I don’t want to make anybody mad, but goats? Eeeeuuuuwwwww. Icky. And he eats them? I don’t feel so good.
Tiffani. Be quiet. Just be quiet. It’s going to be difficult for you to learn anything if you’re running your mouth all the time. Can you just breathe for a minute? I can’t deal with this right now. You’re going to have to wait. DO NOT respond to Raheem at this time. Just sit on your hands and breathe. I’ll get back to you a bit later. My name is pronounced “AP7NW”. Duh.
OMG! You guys are getting me Mentos? I love Mentos! Have you seen those videos where they put Mentos in Coca Cola? It’s really cool! MenTOR? Why? But I don’t know if I want to join MOL. I can dance? Really? Wow! I love to dance! I dance all the time! Damons? There’s only one Damon I know about. That’s Matt. He’s really cute! Is he gonna be dancing too? ‘Cause I don’t know if he can dance or not. Who’s Kathy Courier? What does she deliver? Not much? I don’t know. I think I need to think about this some more…
Halo, Tiffanee. Is Raheem. Allbodies be knowing that Form is not, yoo no, like MatchingUp.Com but Raheem always being on lookingout for new Waf since ting with Candy not working out so good. Having now MOLCULT limo, so plentie of room when wafs want to go to mall. Always being rooms for one more. Hay, is not Caddy, all-yoo-can-bee-eating-goat-b-q and 1,000 smackings a week, but is OK gig. What you be saying to meeting up and be hanging out? See where tings be going. Raheem be tinking we be having some kinda weird mental connecting. Soul mating, even. Is like totally tubularly. Be sounding like we be having more in common than Doily and Kathleaning. Raheem be hoping yoo be having all yoo teeths cause sometimes goat-b-q is little tough. Yoo be tinking (haha) bout this. KO? Later. Is Raheem.
CONFIDENTIAL TO AP7NW FROM REV: (DO NOT POST) Just try to think of TiffaniMac as ‘our’ Kathy Currier. Don’t you feel better now? Rev.
Hey y’all-… I was just reading an article on Steve Lumbley’s site and I never really thought about this…but the article suggests that ministries, such as Doyle’s could be responsible for the struggling economy..and it DOES make sense, since people who THINK they are believing God spend money above their means because of their PRIDE. Here is an excerpt:
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In 2005, a group of African American pastors met to denounce prosperity megapreachers for promoting a Jesus who is more like a “cosmic bellhop,” as one pastor put it, than the engaged Jesus of the civil-rights era who looked after the poor.
More recently, critics have begun to argue that the prosperity gospel, echoed in churches across the country, might have played a part in the economic collapse. In 2008, in the online magazine Religion Dispatches, Jonathan Walton, a professor of religious studies at the University of California at Riverside, warned:
Narratives of how “God blessed me with my first house despite my credit” were common … Sermons declaring “It’s your season of overflow” supplanted messages of economic sobriety and disinterested sacrifice. Yet as folks were testifying about “what God can do,” little attention was paid to a predatory subprime-mortgage industry, relaxed credit standards, or the dangers of using one’s home equity as an ATM.
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I believe the above could have included leasing Jets and Limos to impress people who don’t really give a ***
Like Lisa.
CONFIDENTIAL MEMO TO MOLCULTHQ
Do NOT post on FORUM:
From: AP7NW
To: RevDrdm
Why? Why me? What did I ever do to get
punished by-stuck with- to mentor Tiffani? I don’t think it’s even possible to mentor a sponge. (She probably signs her name with a smiley face over the ‘i’. Or, even worse, a heart.) Look, I’ll recant the short and edentulous remark, I’ll take down the bag-over-your-head pics – anything. Puhleeezzee. I’m begging here – I swear, she’s more clueless than – than – than – KATHIE DAVIDSON. Please. Demote me – anything but this…For those that didn’t tune in, Thursday Night- you didn’t miss anything.
Just a general, disjointed rant against the Govt, and calling the Wollers “blind wicked paypil”.
Appears to be PUI- preachin’ under the influence.
Really not saying anything of any significance, nor anything that make any sense at all.
How do the wollers stay awake?
How do they keep from nodding off, from listening to these camel droppings?
Utter nonsense.
***YAWN***
Time to go home, Drool…. your rant is incoherent!
TiffaniMac is hereby promoted to Understudy to AP7NW and Apostlette-In-Training. A mind like that shows true cult leadership potential. If TiffaniMac can dance, she should go far in the ranks of MOLCULT. Even better if she has a few demons.
Hey Bob and Other Forum Peeps and Peepers:
Wow- I read DD’s Non-news of Non-interest…. Sheesh! “LisaD” gets top billing!
This HAS to irk Kathie Small, at some degree.
After all, LisaS will always be “his second waff”-
Face it, just like a horse race,KS always come in second place…I think KS is just a replacement filler- inner for LisaS….
just my opinion,
Cheryl
RevDoc – If I remember correctly, Doyle doesn’t think of Lisa as his ex. As far as he’s concerned they’re still “married,” she’s just temporarily living with another guy (her real husband) until she comes to her senses.
Yeh, I said basically the same thing- as a comment under a recent post- scroll down. I agree with ya, Bob!
cp
RevDRdm said, “We have no indication that Lisa and her Wicked Friends have any interest whatsoever in the degree to which Socialism has infested this Nation.” Sorry, but I almost “pulled a Meg” when I read that. I was chewing on a delicious home-made enchilada brought to me by a neighbor-lady and I almost lost it on my monitor. That really tickled my very small funny bone. I guess you would have to know lisa and her wicked friends to get the full impact of that humor. And the fact that doyle thinks she gives a rat’s a**.
On an even brighter note, I think that I have this socialism-thing figured out. I think God gave us obama just to mess with doyle’s head. And keep him occupied. I mean, hellooooo, if you give a community organizer (from Chicago, no less) the keys to the hen house, he IS going to re-distribute the eggs. I refuse to believe that 53% of American voters are that stupid. So, I think God did it just for doyle. And after dd passes, all the eggs will get put back in the right nests. But don’t tell doyle that because that would defeat the whole purpose of God’s plan. Optimistically, a mol goat.
Dear Mr. Goat: So in other words, you believe in the same God that I do- one that has a sense of humor? YEHHHH!!!!! Cheryl
OMG! Socialism? I LOVE socialism. Socialism is just like one big 24/7 party. Party! Party! Party!
You know, Paris Hilton is a really famous Socialist, and like those two girls from Full House? That were twins? Well,l I guess they still are. They played one girl? But there’s like two of them? ‘Cause they’re twins. And now they have their own line of clothes, and guess what? This is SO cool! They’re Socialists too!
Oh my gosh. And so I keep hoping one day I’ll meet Paris Hilton ’cause I love to party. And she parties a LOT! And I’d like to be a really famous socialist and be on TV and on E! and in PEOPLE magazine and stuff and –
Oh. SociaLITE?
Are you sure?
Not SociaLIST?
Um, I gotta go. ‘Bye
Thanks Tiffani, for that informative post. I had no idea Paris Hilton is a Socialist, but it’s good to know- Thanks
cp
In a rather bizarre Message To Lisa and all her Wicked Friends dated 12 Nov 2009, Doyle informed her that Socialism has overtaken this country since the Federal Government nationalized the banks in September 2008. The Texas Governor has also announced that Obama is leading the country into Socialism. We have no indication that Lisa and her Wicked Friends have any interest whatsoever in the degree to which Socialism has infested this Nation. Why Doyle would choose to send ANY message to Lisa is unclear at this time. Equally unclear is Mrs. Small-Davidson’s response to Doyle’s communication (albeit one-way) with Lisa. MOLCULT RELATIONSHIP TIP FOR DOYLE: New Wafs frequently resent ANY communication with Old Wafs, unless related to issues involving children. (And they don’t like even that very much.) Why Doyle would feel the need to educate his ExWAF on the dangers of Creeping Socialism is also unclear. Lisa, her Wicked Friends and Forum readers are referrred to an earlier post which I discussed how Doyle LIVES IN HIS HEAD. For the sake of their marriage, KSD needs to block her man-child from posting to his Ex and also limit his watching Fox News Channel to Greta’s show. This is stressing him beyond his ability to cope. Maybe she could get him to watch MonsterQuest on the Discovery Channel although that could exacerbate his hallucinations. Better he should stick with watching the Food Channel.
No he should watch the show called “MONSTERS INSIDE ME” ….little parasites that love to eat brains and all your mushy innerds….heh heh! I’m really making myself sick….ugh! rab
How ’bout that nasty show – Toddlers and Tiaras? Doyle’s got the narcissim, exhibitionist tendencies, temperament and the mentality of a two-year old….AP7NW
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When a spouse feels the need to communicate with a former lover, IMHO, it usually means that there is something lacking in the present relationship. Perhaps kicking Kathie’s two “bast***s” out didn’t set well with Kathie, but she’s stuck with the old geezer, now that she doesn’t have a job as a teacher. By now, some of the schools know about her koo-koo life with Drool… Let’s face it, Drool never refers to Lisa as “ex” wife, he calls her his “second wife”- big difference! He’s publicly said he’s “dead” in certain ways, perhaps her toys are bugging him, and maybe, just maybe- she’s a bit po-ed that he threw her kids out? Things aren’t rosy with Drool and Kathie, it’s NOT a “marriage” it’s a chauffeur/reader/housemate relationship. But deep down he’s pining away for Lisa, like the pimple faced teen suffering the loss of his first crush-
Just a thought!
Cheryl
I got a kick out of old “Honest Abe” Doyle telling the flock last night about the dishonest Small and Statton (spelling?) children. This is the same Doyle who bragged awhile ago that there was no paper trail to show where the money came from for the private jet rental for his daughter’s trip to Kansas.
He doesn’t fool me, he is probably getting money from some terrorists…someone should call Obama and tell him Doyle is a racists, adulterer, and a really bad example of a man….you don’t fool me Doyle….that bank you had all OUR money in closed you down, so where do you keep all your money now…hmmmm….? stuffing it under the mattresses? Wiskey bottles?rab
RE: mol hq’s post:
I concur. Been there, done that. Not personally. Yes, I am married to my second husband, but I didn’t marry him until AFTER my divorce from my FIRST husband, after not only Biblical but legal grounds were exposed and settled in my heart. I am fortunate that my own kiddos were already grown and weren’t living with us. So I can’t speak for myself.
Now, my husband and I have had “issues” – any marriage does- and anyone that says “my marriage is perfect- or – I walk perfectly before God”… I say:
bullllloney.
There is no such thing as a “perfect marriage” and if there is a person that is walking “perfectly” before God, I want to meet said person.
(I’m not counting Jesus- I mean regular people that aren’t the Son of God).
The fact that the Small young men have left the Circus on Arena speaks something of their character.
In Texas, when parents divorce, any child 12 or older gets to petition the Court as to which parent they choose to live with.
Unless the Court can find some outlandish reason, they will generally abide by the child’s wishes.
Whether the Small young men left by their own choice, or whether Drool “kicked them out”, or if they left by a Court Order via a Collin County Judge, thank God they are out of there.
For a moment: let’s just assume they left of their own accord:
Lesson learned. The boys/young men used their God-given brain, and realized that the nice home, new furniture, clothes, cars, be whatever it was,
wasn’t worth living with a whacko.
And sadly, one day K Small will wake up and smell the cheese sammiches and realize that she has sacrificed her sanity, a good husband that’s not old enough to be her Daddy, and her own children- for what?
A Caddilac, clothes, and a nice home.
Good going K Small, the wol false waff of the false prophet
Wednesday Night Update: In another episode of revisionist history, Doyle revealed that the reason Lisa (his 2nd Waf) left him was over an incident in which her lying son was caught with some stolen candy in his backpack. The boys parents were called in(presumably that would be Lisa and Doyle…..no, wait, they didn’t call Doyle, they called JR….) by somebody and the boy’s story was that his friends had placed the candy in his backpack without his knoweldge. Lisa and the Liar (JR) believed the boy whereupon Doyle hit the ceiling. In the ‘discussions’ that followed between Doyle and Lisa, Doyle gave Lisa some parenting tips which, according to Doyle, resulted in her leaving him and returning to the Liar. Or at least that’s what I think he said. Which brings me to the subject of todays MOLCULT ESSAY: THE CULT LEADER AS STEP-PARENT—-Ahem. We all know that the leading cause of murder/suicide in this country is the presence of teenagers in the house. (That’s a joke, people) When your child hits the teenage years there are challenges to face as a parent. Those challenges are even greater when you are a step-parent. The challenges escalate even further when you are a CRAZY step-parent. When you have a level of paranoia, arrogance and self-righteousness like Doyle’s, interactions with step-children become downright volcanic. As the Small boys can no doubt confirm. Parenting, especially step-parenting, requires considerable amounts of patience, love, maturity and mental stability–qualities Doyle quite obviously lacks. Any man who becomes a step-parent learns one thing early on: it takes either a brave soul or an ignorant one to get between a Momma Bear and her Cubs. Most mothers (not all–some are just crazy) love their children NO MATTER WHAT. This is generally a good thing. Children need their Mother to love them and protect them. If a man, Momma’s NewHusband, takes it upon himself to ’straighten the little bas***** out’, he is opening the door to some serious trouble, both between himself and the kids and between himself and his NewWaf. Problems between the happy couple can frequently hit critical mass over this kind of thing. We have already heard stories, some from Doyle and some on deep background, about trouble in the Davidson household regarding the kids. In MOLCULT experience, when you see a Mother who chooses her NewHusband over the welfare and happiness of her children (especially if the NewHusband is crazy himself), it is usually a tip-off that the woman has some rather significant psychological disorders/problems. It is our understanding that the Small boys now live with their Father which leaves Doyle to be the sole object of Kathleen’s affections. Which is what he preferred in the first place. Doyle’s ego and narcissistic needs are so great that there is no place in Kathleen’s life for anyone else but Doyle. It is truly sad that this is the life she has chosen but the ability to separate truth from fiction and to independently judge what is truly important (like, for instance, the lives of your children and preserving your ability to be a sane and loving parent) are not qualities that are cultivated at WOL.
Do you suppose that’s why Patti and Doyle only had one child…probably Kathy took too much time away from his HINE-NESS……heh heh! rab
One more thing. MrsRev. is a honey-bunny and I’m a very lucky man to have her in my life. Now I have to go mop the kitchen floor.
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Maybe MrsRev would prefer you learn a few country songs and sing to her..the little boy on the following link can probably offer some lessons: Pay Attention closely to how well he moves those lips!
http://www.funnieststuff.net/viewmovie.php?id=1438
As MOLCULT Leader, I should clear up a few items. 1. Trying to get this group to do anything is like trying to herd cats, which is why edicts from HQ are few and far between. I did once ’suggest’ that the MOLCULT Dancing Girls wear French maid costumes. That order met with a resounding thud. Therefore the First Principle of MOLCULT has always been “Do the best you can.” 2. I do indeed have my own teeth. Drinking goat’s milk builds strong bones and teeth. 3. As far as being ‘better-looking’, MrsRev always tells her friends that I’m not nearly as repulsive as I used to be when we first met. She, if no one else, thinks I’m “Special” and says she is thinking of entering me in some kind of Olympics where she expects me to win, at best, a Bronze medal.
This former rehab RN would remind our elect example Mrs. RevDoc to make sure you are wearing your helmet when participating in your sports categories, as it is evident (you leading our cult and all) that you’ve fallen flat on your faith more than once. Ha! Sometimes, I amuse me! Yes. Yes. Going to sit in the corner now. BUT IT WAS WORTH IT!
AP7NW
Actually, I don’t care if the Rev’s 3′7″ of roly poly jello and edentulous to boot, as long as Mrs. Rev isn’t given to wearing slut shoes with fundamentalist hairdos. I don’t care which way she goes – skanky or fundy – it’s the incongruence in Kathie D. that’s making me crazy…if we have to live up to the Waff of the Oppossum of Gawd, I just wanna make sure ours is more sane than theirs!
Yes, I agree, Meg. I think all MOL Cult Leaders should have to pass a sanity test. Also, I personally think the MOL Leader should not have more than ONE Missus, and own no more than three Cadillacs, don’t you agree?- CP
Praise God Aben! The Small boys are gone from Doyle’s influence. Just maybe Kristen and Evan will wake up and get out of that evil place. I hope Kathi Small is happy that she has destroyed her family in the process of seeking financial gain. Well sister, it ain’t gonna last much longer. Then what will you do? Will Jack take you back? What do your two younger sons think about you? You chose Doyle over them and their father. Proverbs describes a virtuous woman….you don’t qualify!
Saw this on another wordpress site.
“Stressed is Desserts spelled backwards”
:+)
ah
Personally, I find the dessert of chocolate ice-cream keeps my stress level down
Cheryl
well the d’oil has announced that congress passed health care for most americans, but there is no evidence that they considered jehovah as their healer,, well, apparently no one considered jehovah as their healer for terry mai, and if they did it didnt work. who knows why it didnt work. congress does not have the capacity to consider god as the healer. that is not their job i dont think. d’oil reminds me of the mutant commander of the ship in mutiny on the bounty. this latest pronouncement is just more nonsense in davidson’s inability to produce a coherent thought. actually this may be a good thing, if anyone who doesnt know about all his antics hears some of this for the first time it should turn them off immediately. kathy small , queen of de-nile.
Hm: it appears Dull is talking about the Small boys, about how they “used to live with him”…
Now he’s ragging on Travis Staton… about sneaking candy out of a grocery store… His Second Wife apparently didn’t reprimand Travis to DD’s satisfaction, “that’s why Lisa isn’t here (at WOL) today”…
It APPEARS the Small Boys have moved out of DD’s house, and it’s all the fault of “wicked fathers who are taking their kids to hell with them”…..
Interesting spin on that story, dont ya think?
Now the yelling, chanting, (praying) is going on… so I’m turning the speakers OFF!
Possible fur ball wretching ahead…
Update: 7:35 pm: K Mai, K Small, T Brown, are trying to upgrade so some fancier dance steps, sort of some kind of Israeli looking thing. Wow- too cool- ——–not
cp
Cheryl:
I got it. I even started to respond by reminding you that Meg had suggested that I come in brown pants and green shirt so that y’all could hang lights on me and save the cost of a Christmas tree. Then you and I would be a pair of light-producin’ hombres. But I didn’t respond. Je regrette cela. Acceptez mes excuses. Merci.
Yeh, molgoat, I think I’d use lightbulbs and forego the candles- I’m rather a klutz at times, and could possibly set the place on fire! LOL….. but I rather LIKE you idea!
cp
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Hey Listen everyone…I wonder if DrRevDm asked us to do something stupid, would we all do it? Cause he is the boss man you know…and if I’m not mistaken he does have all his teeth last time I saw his picture, so doesn’t that make him “special” or just a better looking cult leader? Which is it?…rab
Well, inquiring minds would need to see his photo, first. We have only your word to go on that he’s “a better looking cult leader”. And it could be he has dentures….AP7NW (Vertically challenged, horizontally endowed, myownself)
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I second Meg’s motion…. I want to know if my MOL Cult Leader is tall, handsome with charisma and possessing good manners, and a full set of teeth- or- if he’s just a short troll with more hair in his ears than in his head? A bald head is actually the cool new look right now, so that’s not a problem with ME, just so it’s not coming out of his nose… know what I mean?
Go rev!
Fondly,
cp
Too funny, Meggers!
Yep, DD is a real “lion”-
or is he really a lyin’ ?
Maybe that’s why they call
a Lion family a PRIDE?
Go ahead- send me to the time out chair….
hee hee-ok, that’s corny,
I know!
cp
Yup. The photo pretty much says it all. At one time, Doyle probably was a dandelion. Now he’s just lyin’ around. In every sense of the word…
We have discussed the “trance” state issues at WOL previously on the Forum but for those who may have missed it, we’d recommend viewing the following clips—http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_QiVi3mchE and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCohlCPSLlo Now keep in mind that these vids discuss techniques used by some individuals. Doyle does not necessarily use ALL the specific techniques discussed, but he IS part & parcel of this genre of ‘ministers’ and if you listen to this information, you will get a better understanding of what is REALLY going on at the Plano Cult.
i watched the youtube vids/ he does use the repetitive music and >>>>chanting? what else could it be when he says praisegawdaben,praisegawdaben,praisegawdaben,ibindwitchcraft,ibindyouwitchcraft, ibindyou, ibindyou……..over and over and over? chanting? what else could that be? the tiki torch lady next door to him probably cant do batter than that. sheesh. thanks mol hq!
Regarding the Christmas Party, I have no idea how many peeps have RSVP’d. I would guess, given Isabel’s threats, that there are some recalcitrant souls who have not committed yet. Of course, its okay to be recalcitrant at MOL.
But I was thinking, if anyone is hesitate about coming because they want their identity to remain unknown to the 6 billion people that are not at the Party, I’m sure there is no problem with that with all the attendees. We can be sensitive in that area.
Hey, if ex-military Bob turns out to be a shop-a-holic teenage girl (no offense intended to teenage girls) or if Baptist Bob Bob turns out to really be Big Red…well, I might have a problem with that, but you get my drift. Its okay and nobody will think anything except: we’re glad you came!
Let’s have fun and fellowship and y’all’s identities are safe with me and everyone else, I’m sure. Hey, I might even turn out to be a sheep. But I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Hey MOL Goat: I’m not scared of anyone knowing my identity…. I just don’t want the WOL_NUTS to know “where” this thing is going to be held!
As a side note: since my hubby’s half Jew, I had posted a joke that no one seemed to “get”. I said I’d come dressed up as a Menorah, and sing “You Light Up My Life”! yuk, yuk, yuk !!! LOL —- Cheryl.
I am going to TRY TO BE THERE
Mary:
Very nice post: good points you made: thumbs up!
If anything, after leaving “Whites Only Lemmings”
I began to study on how much “occult” things are going on there.
THIS IS NOT GOD- THIS NONSENSE IS DEMONIC, and they aren’t being hacked up.
This is the DEVIL’s play-ground, and I’ll keep on saying it.
These Lemmings just can’t see it for what it is, they are too busy trying to please their Fuhrer.
Mary: Again, thanks for you input- well done….
David, you’re always posting good stuff, too. Same can be said of Bob, Jack T, RevDeDM, Vincent, Al, Ron, Issy, LisaH, Rosie Brucie, and Rhaeem who we haven’t heard from in a while.
is it Goat-Mating Season? Maybe that’s why Raheem’s been so busy- with his cousin Abdul.
Sometimes, I actually think Drool does this stuff, just for entertainment purposes.
‘Nuff said-
blessings to all,
CP
Did anyone watch last night’s Jezzy-Furball Cough Up contest? Sounds like some of you did.
This really isn’t funny- but I had to laugh, as TBrown was hacking up her fur balls with, of course, her “brother” DD, standing there.
Behind her, was daughter Jennie-Marie, and grandaughter: Emily or Emma- can’t remember:
HILARIOUS MOMENT CAUGHT ON TAPE:
T Brown’s grand-daughter “mimicing” grandma Brown’s Jezzy-hacking!
That little girl should win an Oscar for that performance. I laughed out loud as she was watching her granny, and she shook her shoulders and started pretending to act like Granny Brown.
It was a CLASSIC!
Pardon the excessive posting today. Mary’s post was right on. Over the years, some in the Charismatic movement thought they could “command” God to do something as they took something in scripture totally out of context, or He has to do it. ie “Command ye me”. There is enough evidence at WoL for the Wollers to examine and make a quality decision to leave that God forsaken place. Terry Mai’s death, among others, Lisa not coming back thus John not being born, President Obama being elected just to name a few. Many unfullfilled prophecies of Doyle’s have been listed on this forum. Doyle, you are a False Prophet!
David- no need to apologize for posting- I should apologize for excessive comments, but certain WOL subjects stick in my craw.
This demanding of gawd by yelling, is NOT new to WOL. We learned this back in the late 80’s. When Drool taught about the different kinds of “prayer” he taught about “Crying out” to gawd…. he taught that this didn’t mean tears, but “‘crying out” to Him, in prayer- dd is right “in theory”- but he’s like to pick and choose obscure verses and build shaky theology on them…. like “BOW DOWN YOUR EAR”!!!!
It’s blatantly blasphemous, for sure-
Good point, David- thanks- cp
Did anyone notice that Doyle would occassionally caucus with the WoL First Lady I guess to decide which demons were still left inside these women? Terre Brown, you just can’t seem to shake your demons after 20 years of Doyle’s actions. I feel so sorry for your little granddaughter to have to sit and see and learn this nonsense. You have enslaved Jenny back into that awful place. You should be ashamed.
The competition is heating up at WOL as the congregants compete amonst themselves to see who can yell the loudest, longest ‘prayer’. Doyle continues to prowl around monitoring their efforts in much the same way that a zealous schoolteacher casts a watchful eye over the classroom, ready to pounce on any student who is not exercising sufficient diligent in his studies. Doyle is paying increasing attention to LouAnn (sp?) which should be a warning to her. Terre Brown continues to be the undisputed holder of the WOL record for recurrent Jezebel infestation as evidenced by her convulsive efforts last night to expell said demon. Doyle shook his fist and said a few words to her as she twitched violently but evidently became bored with the whole process as he quickly walked away and sat for a while with the Mrs., resting. Later there was dancing. I find the cacaphonous praying alternately intriguing and unsettling. The loud, repetitious nature of what he is making them do seems (to me)counterproductive to growing closer to God. I never thought I’d long for the return of the WOL Boys Choir with their Milli Vanilli lip-synching style. MOLCULT believes there is room for a wide variety of ‘worship styles’ and practices. God loves variety, we think. He made a lot of it. We don’t generally approve when some “Authority” tells people HOW, WHEN and WHAT is the PROPER METHOD to seek God or pray. What is going on now at WOL with Doyle’s current kick seems rather bizarre to me but what’s new? It is, I submit, just another one of Doyle’s tools he uses to maintain control over the cult. I have previously posted how the repetitve chanting has a hypnotic quality and is often seen in cult settings. This may be why there is a scriptural prohibition for this kind of thing. It was referred to earlier but we think the scriptural admonition concerning this bears repeating (but not repetitively so). In Matthew 6:5,6,7,8 Jesus is teachng the Disciples—”and when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogue and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy CLOSET, and when thou hast SHUT THE DOOR, pray to thy Father which is in SECRET, and they Father which seeth in secret shall reward theee OPENLY. BUT WHEN YE PRAY, USE NOT VAIN REPETITIONS AS THE HEATHEN DO, FOR THEY THINK THEY SHALL BE HEARD FOR THEIR MUCH SPEAKING. BE NOT YE THEREFORE LIKE UNTO THEM, for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, BEFORE YE ASK HIM.” Evidently Doyle is correct when he tells the Wollers that they cannot even read fifth grade. Scripture seems pretty clear on this to us at MOLCULT.
Well, MOL HQ:
My thoughts exactly. I agree with Rose: if God wanted us to scream, and yell, He would have given us vocal chords that couldn’t be damaged.
You already “stole” my post.
I also agree: Jesus said: they do it to be seen of men- verily, they HAVE their reward. IOW, they aren’t going to get their prayers answered for their long, droning, and yelling- that’s all they’re getting.
I frankly can imagine God just up there yawning when He sees this nonsense going on. WOL, as we all agree is a disgrace, and it’s the perfect example why the “unchurched” don’t seek out chuches to attend, when they see this camel caca going on. “AL” here has more sense than all the Wol_Nuts put together.
Why doesn’t Dull just save their vocal chords, and record this screaming and yelling, so that they can just play it like an old Terry Mai CD? It would save some voices.
MOLHQ: another point you touched on, is the “trance” effect.
Brother, I ‘ve BEEN THERE, I was there for years, and these Fruit Loops think they have to “stir up” their voices and yell to get “the Holy Ghost” rolling in there, so they can “overcome”. Yeh, I know their lingo, and I also know DD’s M.O.
When I was there, I couldn’t see that this was all fake…
Now that I’m OUT of there, I can see it’s learned behavior, as the REV has told us.
I am a big believer in theory of the ” TRANCE EFFECT”…. Eastern religions use this in commonplace practice.
Not much more to say, MOLHQ has said it all!
Aben— Thanks for the posting…. be blessed.
cp
IMHO, these folks aren’t praying. They are doing what they have been taught to do at WoL. I wonder how all this got started. I have never seen anything like it and believe me, I have seen some weird stuff in church over the years. God isn’t weird, He doesn’t make us do stupid things. I don’t see this type of “praying” in NT scripture anywhere. The scripture does tell us that our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit so therefore, I submit that we are not to do anything that would harm our bodies, you know, smoking, dipping, excessive drinking (we all know that scripture), over eating, yelling every night causing damage to our vocal chords. Pretty simple stuff…but nothing is simple at WoL…simpleton’s for sure or they wouldn’t be there.
The new nightly prayer-a-thon at WOL brings to mind when Elijah challenged the priests of Baal to a cook-off. Apparently they did a lot of yelling to get their god’s attention, but it didn’t work. Why? Because he wasn’t there! He didn’t exist. Fortunately our God hears the whisper in our hearts, and he graciously answers. Sometimes the answer is no, but everything He does for us is out of His great love. I wish those still caught in the WOL web would realize that you don’t have to yell at God, you can’t order God around, and Doyle not only is not God’s only representative on earth, DD is no representative at all.
oh my…thanks Rosie for a great, thought-provoking question and for our MOL Goat that provided some possible answers. I actually have some thoughts on this, but it’s late, and I’ll have to do this tomorrow.
Blessings-
Cheryl
Hey! what happened to doyles little john? he doesnt thank anyone for him any longer,,,,,,, does he need a bottle of viagra? no miracles, no john, no one died that he said would die,,,,, what gives? how blind can you be? Helen Keller can see that this is a sham!
rab asks:
I’ve asked this question before, but if this were GOD for them to pray as hard as they do, why would GOD allow their vocal cords to be damaged! I would love any feed back please….
Since I am not a Bible scholar, I can’t give you a definitive answer, but I can provide three answers and you can take your pick.
1.doyle’s answer: if you think that God is sending you on a mission trip and you get killed, then it wasn’t God who sent you in the first place. You missed it. So, if your (necessary) hard praying ruins your vocal cords, you missed it. (his ruined cords come from the devil, of course, and not hard praying)
2.Possible Bible answer: Philippians 2:27,30. 27 ‘For indeed he was sick nigh unto death: but God had mercy on him; and not on him only, but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow. 30 Because for the work of Christ he was nigh unto death, not regarding his life, to supply your lack of service toward me.’ Our bodies can suffer when we don’t regard them, even in the service of God.
3.My answer: Continual hard praying is really unnecessary and he has messed up his body doing it. (See RevDrdm’s comments) It has nothing to do with God. The continual hard praying is just another example of WOL Works and also little god/big devil way of thinking. Prayer is communicating with God, so He can do the heavy lifting, IMHO. Any group that thinks that you have to pray your way into heaven is going to sacrifice their vocal cords on the altar of works, fear, heresy. Aben?
There ya go. Take your pick or maybe someone else can shed more light. Jack T.
So the reason Doyle has everyone doing all these crazy things is because HE CAN and THEY WILL….I get it now!! heh heh!rab
Tuesday night – They’re back to demon barfing. Most noticeable participants were Terre Brown of course, Luann (who needs to develop her technique), Kristen Small and to a lesser extent Pam the hairdresser. Doyle seemed to give a lot of attention to Luann.
This is quite interesting, Bob. Let’s see, TBrown is in the lead, with Kristen Small coming ’round the bend in second place. Whoa! Watch out folks! LuAnn is fast approaching her with Pam inching up close. Their barfing up hair balls, nose to nose! This race is running close! Which woller will win First Prize in the FurBall Cup? Whoa- it’s close, but once again, TBrown wins with an amazing score of 30 furballs! Always bet on the sure horse, there, folks. But T Brown better watch out, as the younger fillies learn their ropes.
Tune in tomorrow folks and place your bets at 7 pm Central Time.
BOB:
Maybe DD is changing the name of the cult from WOL to
“The Church of Jesus Christ Christian”
It’s the name of the church of the “Christian Identity Movement”- KKK and Aryan Nation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Jesus_Christ_Christian
i certainly hear what norma jean has to say. i have forgiven this man. but i have to say,it does not appear that he wants to be forgiven at all, he does not acknowledge ridiculous outright lies and sweeping things under the rug. i always heard that forgiveness was for the person who was doing the forgiving, it was so that that person doesnt become bitter. cleanses your own soul. i only get really irritated when d’oil perpetuates more outrageous behaviour, which is just a symptom of his malignant denial of all things pure and true. so when i dont watch the antics i think i am better off. havnt for a few days now. praying for d’oil, for me, has been reduced to a few words every now and then and they are,”god have mercy on you/him”. i guess that is the best i can muster in these trying times, as they say.
I see from the 11/8 video from South Bend that David Peacock has yet to instruct his tiny flock in the new WOL way of walking and praying. They’re still following the old fashioned regimen, going right into the Terry Mai recordings. At least Anthony Reece is towing the line in Broken Arrow. I’m surprised that Doyle is allowing Peacock such leeway.
To me the amazing thing about when Doyle drops his guard and lets his racism show (which is more and more lately) is that some of these “good Christian” blue chairs don’t get up and walk out the door to never return. Do they all share his views? Is WOL becoming the Plano Branch of the KKK?
I am not judging any of the Wollers hearts, but if their “Leader” is a racist, and they don’t get up and leave, it does appear that they endorse his views- and let’s not forget they give their money to this bigot, too.
OK, so I am weird, if that hasn’t already been established.
I was with a bunch of New Age Consciousness Raising types, I think that’s the best way to describe them, and we were playing a game on emotions: Have you Ever Felt? or Could you Feel? and it was like musical chairs and one question was, “Could you forgive Hitler?” and I stood up, because I had worked on that a long time before, in my Course in Miracles attempt, because I figured out that I needed enough forgiving myownself that I could start with Hitler and Communist China and Stalin. Like that. And I was the only one in the room who stood up.
So, having established my credentials as somewhere south of what is, apparently, commonly accepted as totally sane, how’s this?
What about if we all prayed for Doyle? Maybe some of you are, secretly, already. And that is fine. We don’t have to do it all at once, at the top of our lungs and beating our chests or whatever. Marching up and down at random or otherwise.
I was just reading on an Alanon discussion board a post by a woman who said at one point she was having fits with the hate and anger she was carrying against her exboyfriend and an alcoholic told her to pray for him, thusly, “Lord, please bless that SOB (insert name here) with everything I would want for myself.”
She did it, and let go of the anger and resentment. Another woman wrote that she did that (without the SOB part) for a relative who gave her fits, and not only did the praying woman’s attitude change, so did the attitude of the PRAYEE.
Which would be nice, but most of all, I think it could be healing to pray for someone that we can find a lot of reasons to be “very disappointed” with.
I read something once, when working on forgiveness, about being able to say, metaphorically, “There’s nobody in here but us serial murderers.”
And I think there are some people on here with serious spiritual muscles, so who knows what might happen?
Blessings,
NormaJane
NORMAL Jane: This is Cheryl. You are absolutely correct and NO you are not crazy, weird, nor anything. What you said is Scriptural: forgive those that mistreat/abuse you. If we DON’T forgive others, Jesus said WE would not be forgiven. Personally, I need all the forgiveness I can receive. And I do privately pray_ that Doyle repents of his wickedness. I just don’t cut him any slack when he makes racist comments or other crazy stuff. If I’m correct: this Forum exists to “expose the unfruitful works of wickedness”. But YES, we can pray for him at the same time.
Amen, Normal Norma!!!
Hugs and blessings,
Cheryl
I love it when Doyle pisses and moans about all his mighty “battles”. The fact is that Doyle has had it pretty soft his whole life.
Doyle’s racism certainly is bubbling to the surface, isn’t it? Obama is really under his skin. I’m no fan of Obama, but I am taking delight in watching Doyle fume while digging himself into an even deeper hole by spouting racism and hatred.
As for Doyle’s Throat Demon, what a load of crap. If Doyle’s mouth is moving, the odds are that he’s lying, so there’s no reason to believe that he’s suffering from anything more than post-nasal drip.
Al
Good points, AL:
And I don’t know about DD “dipping” snuff, but he has publicly said he smoked cigarettes for many years. There are times he talks so crazy, I would think he’s smoking more than tobacco! ~~ CP
Medic: To my knowledge Doyle doesn’t dip. I do not know if he smoked cigarettes which is the main cause of oropharyngeal tumors. I SUSPECT (but do not know) that Doyle’s current problem came about because of long term abuse of his voice by prolonged talking, yelling, singing/praying. For an example of Vocal Cord abuse, listen to Kathy Mai’s voice which shows the effects of literally hour after hour, day after day, year in and year out ’singing’, yelling out ‘prayers’ both at WOL, at home and while driving around town. This abuse results in a chronic inflammation of the vocal cords. If this abuse persists, vocal cord nodules or polyps can develop and in some case these can change into malignant growth. This is what I suspect. The voice quality of a person with polyps/nodules has been described as hoarse, low and breathy (which describes Kathy Mai’s voice currently). Kathy and the Mai Girls have mercifully stopped coming on-stage and croaking out their endless renditions of Terry’s old recordings and this may be because she finally recognized her voice simply couldn’t do it anymore. Her videos however continue to sound terrible (from a vocal quality point of view) and she desperately needs to, pardon my bluntness, shut up and let her voice heal. Doyle has long had a voice described as one reporter as ‘gravelly’. Years of abusing his voice both on the WOL stage and at home in his ‘personal’ life have, IMHO, PROBABLY resulted in permanent damage and have resulted in the condition he exhibits today. He clearly has vocal cord damage and were he to seek help from a sorcerer, he would need to have a diagnostic laryngoscopy and probably biopsies to determine just how bad his conition is. It would be interesting to know whether or not he has a smoking history and it is unclear whether, during his time in Vet practice or at any other time, he had any occupational/coincidental exposure to some carcinogen(s). FYI, smoking and alcohol consumption are HUGE causitive agents for laryngeal tumors.
cp
Yes, he has publicly said he smoked…. before he got “religion” –
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I’ve asked this question before, but if this were GOD for them to pray as hard as they do, why would GOD allow their vocal cords to be damaged! I would love any feed back please….if I am wrong, then forgive me…but this is a question I’ve always asked myself and have found no answers! love to hear from anyone….rab
CP: about der Fuhrer’s comments:
Between his hatred for Obama, and probably me too at this point, the truth is finally coming out of his heart/mouth, visible for the world to see. It is the Holy Spirit bringing his hatred to light and he cannot help it. Just like the affair was unveiled, so are his wicked thoughts…murder, strife, hatred.
He used to always say “they want my money, but they don’t want my gospel”…remember?
well, no one, except your mistress and the few other victims you have left, want either, Mr. Davidson.
How sad for Ms. Small when she wakes up one day to discover what she forsook and for who.
Now, now Izzy. I’m certain that when Mrs. D. hits old age, Jack and her children will all gather ’round to care for her, remembering how she stuck by them all through thick and thin, putting her family above everything except Gawd – even her own desires and fears. Why, I’m sure they’ll insist she stay with them ’til the end, rather than off-loading her to the nearest SNF, or, ignoring any attempts at contact from her altogether. AP7NW
thanks CP,
that’s what’s so great about this venue. We can share and not feel like we are offending anyone. We all have to work out our own salvation.
Like I said, there is much more about this whole story and it will take me a while to get it all out. When I get back, I will start writing about some of this on my site. This whole childbirth thing has opened up a can of worms inside that can’t remain supressed. I am seeing new things everyday, two decades after all of this took place! The healing is far from over, and the more we progress, the more we see things that we didn’t know were there! That’s why I am grateful for you all and the opportunity to vent and exchange our experiences so that the rest of these false teachings can come to light.
Love you guys, and will be home soon. The crusade has been a success, even though there are people in the lotus position right outside my hotel room.
Thanks, Issy- glad you “got” the point I was trying to make! Hugs, Cheryl
RevDr: Did he ever dip snuff? Possible oral ca?
Monday Night: “(I will not) enumerate the types of the attacks of the devil on my throat. I will not even acknowledge them—cause I’m not dumb enough. I won’t give him the time of day. But NO ONE KNOWS THE KIND OF ATTACK I’VE HAD ON MY THROAT—and I’m not about to tell you. I’ve been accused of everything and none of it moves me. Why? Because if the Devil could, he’d shut my mouth. He’d shut my mouth. I don’t cast him out–I overcome him. Every time he attacks me, he tries to shut my mouth. Why? Because he knows that Gawd has said I’m the only one he has to do this job. So if Satan can cut me down and stop me from talking, he would achieve a great victory—but he cannot. Let us pray….” Some time back I posted that I believe that Doyle has some serious pathology going on in his throat- larynx, vocal cords, pharynx, somewhere. He has in the past described coughing/spitting up blood. He has described at least one event of a temporary upper airway obstruction which resulted in his feeling like he was ‘dying’. He recently described periods of ’sweating’, which he attributes to a devil and the seductive presence of KSD. Last night he offered up the preceding statement which is as close to a formal acknowledgement of a serious problem as we’re likely to get. Doyle will remain in total denial as events play out. You may recall that Terry Mai’s illness was publicly acknowledged only after it was highly advanced and Doyle prophesied his full recovery and return to WOL right up to the point Terry died. I suggest that we are seeing a similar scenario again. Something (and I have my theories) bad is going on with Doyle or he wouldn’t have mentioned it. Doyle won’t tell the true situation but, narcissist that he is, he is congenitally incapable of keeping his mouth shut, especially about any situation that is affecting him personally. Doyle’s voice has clearly worsened in the recent past. He can no longer even speak for extended periods before his voice fails. I suspect this may be, at least in part, the reason that KSD has stepped into the foreground with her stories about Smith Wigglesworth. Doyle cannot carry this on his own anymore. Doyle’s condition is deteriorating. It is important to understand that these processes take time to develop, but untreated, they are inexorable. Aside from the signs/symptoms listed about I have also noticed that Doyle is starting to slur some words. Vocalization depends not only on functioning vocal cords but on the tongue. His slurring may very well indicate impaired functioning in that organ as well which can indicate either a primary or secondary tongue lesion or (and I think this is more likely) involvement of the tongue innervation, specifically involvement of the hypoglossal and/or glossopharyngeal cranial nerves. (I studied this kind of stuff.) Doyle attributes his problem to Satan. I’m just a wicked sorcerer, but I think the answer lies elsewhere. Stay tuned. This latest statement from him is OMINOUS.
Good news for you, our reesident wicked witch doctor, it’s unlikely he’s gonna seek your help….AP7NW
Wouldn’t the end of WOL be a lovely Christmas gift for Rosie and Co? We can pray so… AP7NW
The best Christmas Gift it would be!
So Kathy Small girl…..the end is near…stay strong…you can outlast him cause his days are almost over….and the real fight between you and his daughter will begin….hmmm!
How will this wicked group of people deal with that!!!! I bet they will definitely be walking like a bunch of stupid zombies for sure now cause can you imagine the only reason Doyle has them do the things he is doing to them is BECAUSE HE CAN AND THEY WILL! RAB
Quote from Die Fuhrer Himself:
“Ethnic Groups give me fits. They fight me, and they fight MY gospel. That’s because they’re more involved with witchcraft…. You may not be able to do what one ethnic group may be able to do”~ Doyle Davidson Monday Nov 9, 2009
(He’s referring to Zimbabwe and “Black People”…. I guess he thinks African Americans should still be picking cotten in the fields?)
Doyle, you’ve sunk to a new low in your racism.
God have mercy on you, you evil racist…. your speaking about African Americans is sick. Are you and Fred Phelps going to merge churches? Or are you merging with the Klan?
We’ve ALL heard Doyle say crazy things. But now his hatred for “black people” is really showing. I recomend watching this, if you doubt that Doyle is racist.
Or will WOL stand for “Whites- Only- Lemmings”?
oh, yeah, my bad. I did mean MRS. Small. not Mr.
those Santa Fe pyschics must be messin’ with me.
Okay- Here is my take on this: My son is 19 years old and just joined the National Guard. For the past few years, I have sent checks, filled out countless forms, and short of standing on my head, HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET HIM A BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!! WHY? BECAUSE THE MIDWIFE WHO DELIVERED HIM ENDED UP GOING TO JAIL shortly after he was born for delivering a dead child.
She was not available to sign my son’s paperwork. As far as the state of Texas (or the rest of the world is concerned) HE DOESN’T EXIST. Can you all imagine the hell I have had to go through, expecially with my parents? my son still can’t get a job or a driver’s license. Of couse, since he didn’t have a baptism certificate, and shot records don’t count, I HAVE NO PROOF THAT HE EXISTS!!!
I have so many other things pent up that I need to let go of. It will take me a while to get this all out, but I will eventually. Ms. Small will point to my unbelief and my parents will point to my irresponsibility. There’s lots more to this story, but that will have to wait. Suffice to say, I had my first child in a military hospital, and I was BUTCHERED, ended up in the hospital for a week a month later with an infection (this was BC- Before Cult). ANY option besides that one sounded like a godsent to me when the rest of my kids rolled around. I WAS SCARED TO GO TO A HOSPTAL because of the withcraft!
Yes, I even did the tub thing with my daughter (won’t go into detail here), and when I had the boys, I DID HAVE INSURANCE, but CHOSE to go with the midwife. I never regretted these decisions. They were the right ones for me, at the time. Except that I can’t get a DAM* birth certificate!
Both my daughters had their sons in hospitals. It was the right decision for them too.
Lke I said, there is lots more to this story and more behind the scenes stuff that I haven’t thought about in a long time…
Issy: Cheryl here- I hope you read my post, the way I intended…..
I didn’t want anyone to think I was anti-midwife. And YES, I have heard of some BAD military
OB experiencies. So I truly understand, and I really am glad everything worked out for you- except of course the birth certificate. I would think an atty would be able to help? Someone that would do it pro
bono?
I am glad everything went well, for ALL of us, that had babies.
Email me if you want to go into more detail-
Shalom!
CP
Cheryl: Babies can fortunately tolerate quite a bit of stress before bad things happen. You were fortunate that you got the right care in a timely fashion. Mere “belief” cannot get you through such an experience despite what KSD or Doyle say. I am NOT opposed to Faith and Trust in God, but there are times when we need to do what we need to do. I would add as a post-script to my previous post that shortly after I turned over the care of the young girl to my colleague (I’m not ‘on-call’ today), she underwent a C-Section for failure to progress in labor. It’s a happy ending as Momma and Baby are doing well thanks in part to a Loving God but also to the skills and abilities of all of us wicked sorcerers at the hospital.
Well, thank GOD for you wicked evil witch doctors and those evil nurses. Hey, if you’re gonna get a witch-doctor, get the witchiest and the most evil—- I hope you “get” my humor in that
Blessings- cp
Yes, RevDRDm:
Once again- bingo! Spot on!
I have had friends use midwives, because:
1. They didn’t have any insurance- OR
2. They were “anti- hospital birth” and wanted to have the baby at “home” where it’s “natural”- in their bed- or *yikes*– Bathtub!
I don’t get the bathtub thing, and didn’t do it, so I’m not saying anything bad – I just don’t understand.
Never the less:
Back in the OLD WoL days, women were “encouraged” to have their little Wollers in a hospital- K Mai’s were all born in a hospital.
I have NOTHING against midwives. But I’ll make this short: with my first child, I had a text book pregnancy: no problems at all, except a bit of anemia.
When my water broke: THAT is when the problem started:
I went to the hospital, and the baby’s heartbeat STOPPED completely.
I was rushed in for an emergency C-section (due to my wicked unbelief- ( rolling my eyes)… when they got the baby out, the cord was wrapped around her neck and shoulder: hence she was choking on her own cord. She was without oxygen for 3 and half minutes- long enough, so I’m told, for some brain damage. Thank GOD, my child grew up normal- no brain damage, no physical problems. Second kid was protocal repeat c -section.
My POINT is: what happens when you have FOUR MINUTES to remove a baby from the uterus, after the heartbeat stops?
Again, I am not anti- midwife… but for ME, it would have meant big problems for my baby.
What say ye, REV- DOC?
Cheryl
I listened to KSD’s story of the birthof her 4th child. After a brief period of resting with a cold rag on my forehead, I am moved to make a few coments. KSD has had 4 children so she ‘knows what she’s doing’. I’ve done what I do for 35 years and have seen a few things too. In the hospital where I practice we occasionally see patients who prefer midwives and we treat them with the same level of professionalism that we treat anyone else. First: there are two kinds of midwives. There are NURSE Midwives and there are LAY midwives. NURSE Midwives practice with a collarorative agreement with a physician. Lay midwives operate a bit on the fringes. Here’s what you need to know about lay midwives. Everything is fine—-until it isn’t. Having a baby is a natural process and I would be the first to say that the whole process has been over-medicalized. But there are reasons for that. Everyone wants a nice happy baby and a happy momma. MOST of the time that’s what happens. But there are times when it just doesn’t work that way and if you doubt this, check out the incidence of morbidity and mortality in 3rd world countries where professional obstetrical care is minimal or non-existant. Babies can die in childbirth. They can suffer irreversibly brain damage. Mothers can die. THIS is why medical folks get a bit perturbed at people who just show up at the hospital when everything is turning into manure. NOW we’re supposed to turn everything around and get a happy ending. And if you can’t, you WILL be sued. And this from a person who didn’t want to see you in the first place. I’m glad KSD had a good result with her pregnancy but it is hardly a recipe for the general public. ALL babies at one point or another are in a breech presentation. Nature usually allows their bodies to shift and the head to engage in the pelvic outlet. Most times that happens. Sometimes it doesn’t. A breech delivery is a VERY risky proposition and it is RARELY, if ever, performed even in a hospital by a physician. In our hospital (and in most) a breech presentation is an indication for C-Section. KSD thinks this was “Gawd”. I call it luck because I’ve seen things turn out very badly for some women. Geting labor ’started’ on a multipara (more than one pregnancy) is not miraculous. It is the natural process of things. On a 4th pregnancy the problem is not usually getting things started; the problem is that it happens VERY quickly. KSD got a good result. Great. But not everyone does and I think her rather cavalier attitude about the birth process ticks me off more than usual because I’ve just spent most of the day dealing with a 15 year-old who’s having her first child—-and she’s not having a very pleasant time even WITH her Epidural.
Well, those of us who appreciate you wicked witch doctors, having worked beside them for years, offer you a fresh cold cloth AND a home made scone with butter and raspberry jam, and here’s a blankie and pillow and we’ll turn out the lights in the doctor’s lounge and you get a bit of rest now. We’ll call you when we’re ready for you! And let your waff know you’re going to be late getting home. Again. AP7NWRN
AP7NW: At this point, I don’t think any bribing will work with those old MOL-Goats. Just ship the goodies directly to me. I will share them with Raheem and only those who RSVP’D. My god only blesses those who I elect and do as I say. Lay the goodies at my feet and I will make distribution.
The rest of the wicked doubters can get their own goodies…I know your tongues are set on fire from hell against me and my goodies.
So, you who did RSVP…will you go with them too? You know I’m not going to chase after you. Don’t come crawling back to me whan the sword of judgement hits your house…and remember…touch not god’s annointed, or her goodies!
CP
hee hee!!! That’s a good one, Issy.
I HAVE “rsvp”-ed…. but I had to put “maybe” because it all depends on if my husband will be in town, and also it’s the last night of Chanukah, Hannukkah, Hanukah, Channukkah…… depending on your preference- if nothing is going on at our congregation, I’ll be there…
Hey, would anybody be offended if I came dressed up as a Menorah? hee hee! I could sing, “You Light Up My Life”—
OMG! thanks, Meg, for the update. I have so much to say about all of this, but so little time!!!
I too had a midwife and I too had a very similar experience and my water broke but nothing happened. There are ways to “make things happen” and my midwife sent us home to do them, and they worked. Yes, I still give God the credit, as He is the author of ALL life , but DOYLE and his horse stories…not so much!
I do not dispute that YEARS AGO, many miracles happened…but what enquiring MOLLERS want to know is what has GOD done for YOU, MS.SMALL, lately, in your rebellion?…and without Doyle???
That word “frustrated” has been tossed around lately. I think with me, it’s more “righteous indignation”.
An aquaintance sent me an e-mail today about prophets. I could not help but think of Doyle when I read it. Here is part of it. God will never bless your union, Mr. Small. ISSY: you mean MRS. SMALL , here, right? You are in rebellion, no matter how you and your play-husband justify it to yourself, your true husband, Evan and Kristin or the rest of us.
article about Prophets:
Their view of truth and God is corrupted by their sensual and ungodly living. Walking in lies and committing adultery (or the frequency of divorce and remarriage) go hand-in-hand. If you are going to commit adultery spiritually or physically, then there is a way in which you have to inwardly justify yourself, and you can only do that at the expense of the truth of God. There is also a consequence in that it strengthens the hands of evildoers. There is nothing about their proclamation that causes repentance and return, but rather a condoning of those who are in a place opposed to God, who Himself hates divorce. It is something like judges today who cannot bring sentence upon transgressors. They cannot bring the severity of the law against the lawbreaker, because their own life personally is itself a transgression.
Thanks, Isabel, very well said, about the prophets- aben…. cp
Kathie “I married my daddy” Davidson’s site today has offered MOL, Statehouses, and the four corners of the round world “Another Health Care Option”. Calm down the Rev please, before he has the fantods. I know he’s VERY excited about this. She was going to talk about something else, but she was out on the bike trail and Gawd changed it. (I was gonna get a haircut today, but I guess it was Gawd that changed my mind, and not my own inertia and unwillingness to go out in the rain. It was a miracle). Here, in her own words, are excerpts from the NEW! Plan.
“I always rejoice when the power of Gawd meets ya on the bike trail. The ducks get out of your way. What I’m going to read to you is from the confidence we have in him.” Poor ducks. But hey, Drool could raise ‘em from the dead if she hit ‘em!
We get to hear the story of Steven, her fourth child’s birth. Steven was breech, and her midwife was going out of town. The day the midwife was to leave, Kathie’s water broke. Kathie woke “her husband” to call the assistant, “her husband” left to call, and Kathie told Jesus “I’m in trouble, and if you don’t do something for me, I’m on my way to a public hospital. And you know how public hospitals love women who use midwives… but, hey – Gawd told the midwife not to go, and she hadn’t. That was a miracle! Then they were worried she couldn’t deliver Kathie, because the baby was premature. But as of THAT DAY, it was okay for the midwife to deliver. Another miracle! And the baby turned around and WASN’T BREECH” a THIRD miracle. She says she used to listen to a prophet “well, I still do” who used to tell about a colt that would turn in its mother’s womb when he prayed.” Kathie realized if Gawd would do it for a horse, he would do it for a human – especially one born again and baptized in the Holy Ghost. And now, her wouldn’t labor start. (I’m so glad this doesn’t come with a slide show…) The midwife has 12 hours after the water breaks to deliver the child, before going to the hospital…the mid-wife left, so Kathie and “my husband” (have you noticed he no longer has a name) they prayed separately, “broke through”, and met in the hallway. And labor began. They got the midwife back, and they delivered the baby. (I gotta say, it sounds like she threw away a perfectly good husband, ’cause she got greedy….) In all, there were four miracles! Wow! (When I had kidlet, my doctor was out of town. But her partner delivered me! A miracle! And I had gestational diabetes and the baby’s sugar crashed, but she was treated before there was a problem! Another miracle! And they had an NICU handy to care for her! Another miracle! And my husband went out and got me my favorite dinner! Another miracle. And I had a suitcase packed two weeks before! Wow…the miracles just keep stacking up….
The question Kathie asks us is, do we want this – the power of Gawd – or do we want health care?
Hmm. I think Maggie Schlosser’s dad would go for health care. Had Terry Mai (and his family) been educated enough to know they could have had YEARS together yet, I believe they would have voted for health care. Kathie, who apparently enjoys playing Assisted Living Staff Member and the Old Man probably wouldn’t care. Let me just say this. If God didn’t want us to learn and practice health care, he’d have told the children of Israel to knock themselves out eating bacon and pork chops.
IMPORTANT MEMO FROM MOL NW:
To: ALL MOL MEMBERS
RE: Non-Christmas non-party on 12/19/09
MOL NW will be shipping some regional goodies.
MOL NW needs to do that sooner, rather than later.
MOL NW needs a rough total headcount sooner, rather than later.
In other words, MOVE IT! SIGN UP NOW! Unlike WOL, it’s NOT a lifetime commitment. It’s one night. Go already!
AP7NW
Cheryl,
Actually I kind of like the sound of “Bob Bob”. It evokes a sense of agility and athleticism. Maybe I will change my name to “Baptist Bob Bob Buckner”. After all, it is a good old southern custom to give two first names – Joe Bob, Joe Willy, Jim Bob, Jim Tom, etc, etc. OK, enough of this.
BBBB
It “could” stand for BIG BURLY BAPTIST BOB: Cuz we all know you are a mean fella! (not!) lol- CP
I second Bob Bob. It immediately reminded me of Bob Dog on Mr. Rogers, and I had a happy flashback to childhood. Be aware, however, you could accidentally get correspondence for the Better Business Bureau, however, I’m sure you’re capable of responding to remind them they’re all wicked sinners. ROFL AP7NW
AP,
Do I get my choice of those “shackeruppers” who are lined up? My, my, my. I’m having a craving for cheese samwitches already. The big difference is I have teeth and I ain’t short. (6Ft. and handsome..uh o, the line just got longer. Being facetious on all counts.) I don’t have to “gum it” like Doyle. OK, just a little Monday morning humor. I also know I can’t compete with the High Prophetess from the Great NW when it comes to humor.
Well, that’s the beauty of Drool’s Rules; you get to pick whomever you want. I’d stay away from the ones that are obviously high maintenance though – they’ll go through your football profits in no time. Since you’re going to have carte blanche – I’d consider someone quite a bit younger (to drive chauffer you when the eyes go). Stay away from TB for sure – she’s scary. Kathy Mai is available however. While listening to her voice is painful, if you encourage her to sing her Jezebels out, she’ll eventually be reduced to a whisper. I don’t know how many of the girls would come with her – probably all, and you might have to support their boyfriends, as well, but hey – owner of the DC’s? You’re good. AP7NW.
I am working on the forum tonight so dont be worried if you see changes on this page.
Alan Havlick
Will be working hard on it the next few days,if you have comments or links you want to save do it now good friends.
ah
For BAPTIST BOB BUCKNER:
Dear Baptist Bob:
My sincerest apologies for calling you Bob Bob.
I don’t normally ssssttttutteeeerrr!
As you can see, sometimtes I post late at night- so please forgive the typo!
Blesssings and peace,
Cheryl
My Dallas Cowboys beat the Eagles tonight. I had asked God for a win and He delivered. The power of God working in my life. Yep, that’s pretty trivial…just like the Wollers.
On a more uplifting note, heard a great message this morning by a wicked Baptist preacher, Ed Young, Sr., about how God walks with us “thru the firery furnaces” of life. Always loved that story about the three Hebrew boys. The King asked, didn’t we put three guys in there? Yep, but I see a fourth!!! His grace and mercy are everlasting. Praise His name!
Wowie, wow wow! David states “MY Dallas Cowboys”. Which immediately caused
the flashing of dollar signsa fluttering of hearts among the WOL women, who could hear their Jezebill spirits pushing them to join the cult of MOL and force themselves to shack up with David despite having theirownhusbands already. As they waited in line for his choice of the next waff for his harem, they spent their time filling out order forms for their new Cadillac SUVs. So now we know how David spent HIS Sunday! ROFL AP7NWi survived ten years of water of life, also leading worship in tulsa for a year, aint that a hoot, i got a job this fall with amazon.com,, i really like it, have 3 days off per week,, doin well up here, thanks to the lord and all prayers of the saints, my day off i did this allman brothers song, “old before my time” about following things that dont mean anything can make you old before your time,, can you hear me d’oil? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIHOP_oOE3w
Yahoo! James has a new job! We’re so happy for you. (Where’s “up here”? Have you moved to the motherland of Amazon – Washington? Talk to us, bud! AP7NW
I’m confused,,,,,, what are they doing? does any of this make a lick of sense? is there anything that idiots asks that these mush brains wont do? even story time from kathie d is getting boring,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, can someone explain to this preachers kid, what on earth are they doing????? I would think the sound track to this “prayer” thing would be perfect for halloween dont you all think? can someone pour me a glass of wine please?????????????????????
Dear Ricky – as a fellow PK, I can’t ’splain any of it. Love, Lucy.
Seriously, we may be heading in to a period of more candor than any of us can stomach. I personally find it interesting that the preacher’s wife wears rather seductive harlot red and does her best to “uglify” herself with clunky glasses and bad hairdos. There’s a mixed message there that, to me, smacks of someone who’s well on her way to a psychotic break, and Dufus is the one who’s gonna push her over the edge. But I’ll leave it to the Rev to correct me on this. Anyway. Here’s a glass of wine, but don’t let ‘em drive you to liver failure. AP7NW
A review of the Snday morning shows clarified to some extent, but not completely, the circumstances of KSD’s leaving her teaching position. She was placed on “administrative leave” which is a euphemism for FIRED. She indicated that she will not be able to return to teaching. Further she takes it as a sign from Gawd that she is to stay with Doyle because her teaching certification has ‘expired’. Professionals who work in an area in which registration with the Government is required know that an ‘expired’ certification is not usually the end of your career. Applications for Re-Certification are frequently made and after the Registering Body (e.g: a Department of Registration & Education which monitors professionals) has determined that the individual seeking to become re-certified has met the criteria for registration/certification, then that person can become registered or certified and may re-enter their profession. That KSD says that she CANNOT re-enter the teaching profession is a tip-off that something SIGNIFICANT occurred, but she did not indicate what actually happened that preculdes her from ever teaching again. In another tidbit which tells some, but not all, of the story she said that she had been rejected in an application for a credit card. Which poses the following questions. If she is actually MARRIED and Doyle’s legal waf, why would she be applying for a credit card based on her own credit rating? As his wife, her credit rating would be the same as Doyle’s, would it not? He (and his sterling credit score) would offset any negative score she may have had and she would receive a card with both of them listed as account holders. Unless Doyle can’t list her as his spouse because they can’t prove that they are legally married. (Which poses the question as to whether or not she lost her job because of her shacking up with Doyle. It used to be that a teacher could be fired for reasons of ‘moral turpitude’; I don’t know if that is still true.) In any event, it is unclear as to exactly why the new waf of a wealthy old man should be denied a credit card. Two final observations. I’d recommend you watch Sonday 2 for the story of how KSD repeatedly wanted to leave Doyle but was ‘prevented’ from doing so by Gawd. At one point Doyle showed how he physically held on to her to keep her from leaving. Notice KSD’s body language during those moments. Her movements are subtle but telling as she leans away from him when he snugs her up against his body. It’s those little tell-tale things that don’t lie. Secondly, Doyle described how he breaks out into a sweat when he’s around his new Waf. He did not appear to be in a sweat during the program so it suggests that something else besides his new waf is responsible for his moistness. He said he woke up this morning in a sweat and he attributes this to a spirit. Night sweats are really not related to ’spirits’ but are often related to various health conditions such as cancer, to name one. Cancer is often heralded by the signs of weight loss, fever and night sweats. And I won’t repeat what I’ve previously said about whay I think is going on with Doyle’s health.
This is your MOL Witness for the Nations Crusader reporting from the quirky little town of Santa Fe, NM.
The crusade has been unusually stress free, and besides a couple of little mishaps, the luggage is here and since there were no connecting flights, “it’s all good”, as my kids (who have about a pint and a half of black blood flowing thought their veins) would say.
I do have to report that on my way to DFW airport this morning, I realized I left my wallet at home. So I went back and sure enough, it was in grandson’s diaper bag since we had enjoyed a trip to McDonalds yesterday…
I get back in the direction of the airport, with plenty of time to spare. So I’m walking around the little shops to kill time before my flight, and suddenly, my name is called on the loud speaker. What the??…I think, so I report to the counter and the lady hands me my wallet.
Someone had located it on a seat and turned it in…what a Crusade victory!!! There were no dead people around to raise up, but who knows, maybe on the way back???
So, I spent a gorgeous sunny afternoon walking through this quaint little town, enjoyed a good meal, and as usual, took pictures of interesting little things that make this crusade town unique. (Or demonized, if you are a Woller) Yes, I prayed and praised as I walked, without Doyle there to announce “let’s praise God”.
I didn’t walk aimlessly, with my hand covering my mouth, nor did I spin across the streets. Like medic, I know God heard me, and I heard Him. I didn’t ask for anything. I have everything my heart desires. I just thanked Him for what I DO have.
Then, I am about to reach my hotel, and I spotted a Merle Norman store, and I immediately thought of my friend and sister, Kathy Mai. This was her cosmetic store. I still have love and compassion in my heart for those people. I cannot help what is there. Would I buy that brand if I could affort it? Probably not. Does that mean that I am less prosperous than someone who does? Probably not. Do they believe more than I do? Probably not. Only God, (and maybe Al) knows.
I have lots more to write about…my next post on my site will be called “beginning prosperity..without Doyle’s money”.
Will report further developments as the MOL crusade at the NM Sage Inn continues…
The best news to come out of the Sun 2 show was Kathie Small Davidson telling the flock that between the type of administrative leave that she was placed on by the school she taught at plus the expiration of her Teaching Certificate pretty much mean that she can never teach again. That’s one of the true miracles I’ve seen come out of WOL.
Once again, Kathie blames God for her being trapped with Drool. And turns it into the love of God. Sad, sad, sad to hear the story of her brainwashing spun into a victory of Gawd. The anger is buried sooooo deep in these people. Woe unto Doyle if it ever breaks out. Doyle, the old hounddog confesses to breaking out in a sweat every time he got around Kathie. (Out here in the real world, it’s known as being a horny old man). (Sorry again, Rosie). In Drool’s world, it’s known as “confronting spirits” Uh huh. And now the key to Drool’s thinking. You attribute it all to Gawd, unless Gawd tells you otherwise. Sort of psychological carte blanch to do as one wishes, in the absence of Gawd telling one otherwise. Very, very convenient. So folks, per Drool, we can cast our eyes around to someone other than our spouses, and blame – er – attribue – it to Gawd. Wunnerful. And if the new victim of our affections vociferously objects, we just tell them it’s Gawd’s will, they have no choice, and we’ll help them overcome their demons. Great. As to the man at 20 minutes? My experienced medical eye deduces that he was arfing up a significant Jezebill spirit that was lodged in his right inguinal area. These are often mistaken for inquinal hernias and removed by wicked witch doctors, like Revdrdm, when, in reality, one can ascertain from the video that a spin around the floor in the presence of such an Opossum of Gawd as Drool, will relieve one of the hernia -er – Jezebill w/o aftereffects. And NO insurance deductible. It’s a miracle. AP7NW
A casual observation of the last four “services” is that for some reason the WOL ladies are no longer participating in the directionless walking “praying.”
What was with the guy whose receding hairline gives the appearance of a Mohawk haircut? About 20 minutes into the Sunday 2 show he starts walking like he had some bad eggs for breakfast. Reminded me of Meg’s posting of the video on Monty Python’s “Ministry Of Silly Walks” skit.
Are you talking about service #2 on 11/8? I’ve just tuned in for the last 7 minutes, because hey – I have other things to do with the day. BUT. I note that we have even more little calves being herded around, ready for their psychological castration. We have one of the boys up front who looks like he’s attempting to swallow the mic – (I didn’t know it was possible to open one’s mouth that far). Worst of all, for the men at MOL, Kathie D is sporting that horrific Olive Oyl hairdo with the nerd glasses again, and NOW there’s another girl imitating her – blue shirt and black pants. Ugh. the look is spreading. This may indicate that MOL is moving toward its own look, which – thank Gawd – is NOT the FLDS ‘do, but may be just as atrocious. The schoolmarm ‘do doesn’t match the lady in red dress she’s wearing, though.
Oh, and there’s a gal dancing in the last coulpe minutes who has a black and silver blouse and skin tight ankle length skirt with some high slits up the back. All in all, looks like a mermaid struggling to break out…..Terre B, with an eye to esthetics, has selected her dancers based on attire – black/white and silver for the last set. Very restful….Ah. The pain has ended. Once my ears quit bleading, I’ll go back and look for the man Bob mentioned. AP7NW
Excuse me, cp, it’s Baptist Bob Buckner, not Bob Bob Buckner. And I share your frustration about the wickedness at WOL.
BBB
Regarding screaming to God demanding He listens….
Many years ago I was in a horrible marriage. This family were Church of God in Christ members with 2 of the brothers (13 kids in all) that were ministers. When the family got together, they always had a worship service at which they would start screaming to God. One night I walked out of the house while this was going on and my (ex) husband followed me outside. He told me it was rude to leave during “prayer” and I told him I thought they were being rude yelling at God; that He hears whispers, too.
Shortly thereafter, I was diagnosed with Stage IV breast cancer and began fighting for my life. All these Christians in that family ignored me, especially my ex. I remember being on the gamma table at Texas Oncology in Plano in horrific pain. I quietly said, “God, please help me”. Immediately I felt an actual presence with me and I knew I was not alone.
Pray is between you and God. It’s private and personal. He is a gentleman and gentlemen are not to be verbally abused.
Just my thoughts…
Dear Medic: If Doyle had a parade, and you attended, you’d rain on it! Thank you for your thoughtful commentary. I hereby nominate you as the Profitess of Etiquette and Best Practices. (Official dispensation of course, has to come from HISOWNSELF, the Revdrdm). AP7NW
I was watching the internet broadcasts from today (Saturday).
It appears that Sheila Lemmond was there, dancing. I could not see that well with the DSL connection.
But it looked like her.
Another interesting fact:
Doyle also has another domain name:
deugenedavidson-dot-com.
Interesting point- is that IP address is near Ft Lauderdale, Florida.
What’s my point?
Just thinking, just thinking.
By the way, where is MBKMAN and James in K?
CP
Excuse me Rev….but I just had to scream something ATTENTION; DOYLE, PLEASE STOP TRYING TO HELP GOD OUT…HE DOESN’T NEED YOU PLUS YOU JUST KEEP MAKING A FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF!!! DUMMY!!! SO YOU PRAYED THROUGH SOCIALISM…Sheesh….will you quit already!! RAB
From Doyle’s website: “BULLETIN November 7, 2009, 11:03 p.m.: The United States House of Representatives has voted to fund Health Care for most of the citizens of the United States. There is no evidence that they considered Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob to be their healer.” And this after Doyle has recently told us that he had prayed through and overcome Socialism. Whatever one’s opinion is of a Nationalized Healthcare Plan, I for one am glad we didn’t get a speech from our elected officials saying, in essence, “Effective immediately all hospitals and teaching medical facilities are closed. Please pick up your relatives at the nearest hospital exit. As of today, ALL health care professionals are required to report for duty in other areas of employment such as the rebuilding of the infrastructure (roads & bridges). It shall be the policy of this Nation that all health care needs are to be met through, AND ONLY THROUGH, faith. All pharmaceutical companies are hereby confiscated and shall turn their production capacity away from medicinal products toward the manufacture of cheese food products. Individuals with terminal conditions, excruciating pain, Swine Flu, Lymphomas, bad teeth, halitosis and rickets are directed to obtain any care they might need by tuning into the Internet broadcasts of Rev. Doyle Davidson, who will, through direct intercession, supply all their healthcare needs. The Federal Budget is hereby balanced and taxes are being reduced accordingly. Have a nice day.”
Hee hee! Loved that one, REVDRDM!
Yeh, now about Doyle’s brand of “faith-healing”. We see the fruit of his “anointing” all right:
Rotten fruit. I am not being hateful towards Doyle. But then again, I am NOT the one up there bragging that I have walked “perfectly” with God for 40 years!
Doyle talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk. Doyle’s health care system sure didn’t work out for Terry Mai, Patti Davidson (HIS WIFE), Baby Ferguson, Karen Neblett, Mary Sobers, Jim Clark, and others. I am not saying that God, in His infinite mercy hasn’t healed some WOLLERS.
But has Doyle raised the dead? Aside from the bike guy with no witnesses- none of us has witnessed him do that.
I would like Doyle to simply be HONEST- and again, we go back to HYPOCRISY…. and not try to act like he’s some big “man of faith” when clearly he’s not. I made no such claim. My husband had surgery last month, and I am thankful for the Doctors, Nurses, etc. To think I would have to turn to “the mouthpiece of gawd”- Doyle, for my husband’s “healing” is a very scary thought.
But on the bright side, Hubby would rather have died than let Doyle near him!
Thanks for the post, RevDrDm-
Cheryl
Thanks, REVDRDM:
(edited Sat night for clarification)
Actually, you again hit another ’sore spot’. The word you used was “FRUSTRATION”…. you are correct. There was and still is (if we’re all honest here) a certain amount of frustration over the fact that WOL/DD gets away with…. well, stuff that is short of committing murder.
Then again- Jesus said if the thought is in one’s heart, it’s as if he/she committed it- adultery, covetousness, etc.
This also applies to murder.
I am NOT implying in any way that DD has committed any crime of that nature. What I AM SAYING: is that all his death threats, and saying he’d like to see JR Staton dead…. according to JESUS (not me)…. it’s AS IF HE HAS COMMITTED IT.
Read that paragraph again, if you aren’t 100% sure of what I am saying:
Jesus told the Pharisees (and contrary to DD teaching, NOT ALL “Pharisees” were “bad”)- when they accused the disciples of not following the tradition of netilat yadayim - the ritual handwashing before eating, Jesus had to deal with the hypocrisy of these Pharisees. The ritual handwashing was NOT a mitzvot (commandment) from the Law of Moses, it was a man-made rabbinical tradition, and is practiced still today. Jesus corrected them and called them on their hypocrisy: it wasn’t against the Law of Moses, but against the man made tradition that the Pharisees were offended by. Jesus expounded on what they said and told the Pharisees : that out of the HEART proceeded among other things, murder (Mark 7:20-23).
Sorry- went off on a rabbit trail: back to the topic of frustration.
Rev and others:
When I “found out” about DD, I WAS
Angry
Resentful
Felt Betrayed
-and-
Frustrated.
Mainly the frustration was finding out about DD’s HYPOCRISY! DD was quick to speak of the hypocrisy of the Pharisees and Sadducees, all the while living the life of the utmost hypocrisy and betrayal: not just to Patti Davidson, but to ALL of us who listened and obeyed HIM (when we should have been obeying GOD) and giving HIM our money!
I’ll shut up- you get my point.
Shalom Ya’ll,
Cheryl
A FEW THOUGHTS AT RANDOM: Regarding the tone of anger sometimes expressed here, I think Cheryl has it eactly right. (Although as often as not, I think what is expressed here is as much FRUSTRATION as anger.) It is painful to watch the goings-on at WOL and many who have left can NOW see, from their current perspectives, what all the criticism/anger/frustration is about on the Forum. Kudos to AL for picking up an EXCELLENT point about public ‘praying’. And I must just add that Al is the weirdest atheist I’ve ever run across. But I mean that in the best possible way, and I know I speak for everyone here when I say, we value his input. Unlike WOL, everyone here does not move in lock-step. Speaking of lock-stepping and running around hopping and jumping in Plano: I tuned in for a bit of the ‘broadcast’ today and caught a bit of the girls hopping about. I have two words to say and that’s as far as I’m going to address this issue: sports bra. It’s a good thing Doyle is practically blind. And one more thought about the Prayer discussion. There’s another thing that bothers me about what passes for praying at WOL (and at some other groups as well). I have some difficulty with all of this praying ‘for stuff’. I don’t think God, quite frankly, gives a hoot if anyone has granite counter tops or rides in a ‘better’ limosine. Does anyone REALLY BELIEVE that God is concerned with this TRIVIA? Here is a bit of an example of what happens in the REAL WORLD, not the insulated bubble the Wollers (and the rest of us) live in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39I_VDlGs4s&feature=related Can anyone see this and with a straight face make the argument that God is deeply concerned about which CAR we drive or which RESTAURANT we eat in or whether we can pay our bills? I believe God is truly in PAIN that the people he CREATED can DO THESE THING TO EACH OTHER. Yes, I know about the “personal relationship with God” teachings and I suppose God is big enough to take seriously my petty concerns, but why doesn’t he take the needs of those people seriously? They need help a whole lot more than anyone here or at WOL. The truth is that, contrary to what the Wollers think, God does not micro-manage our lives. If HE does not deign to reach out and STOP these GENOCIDES from happening because he does not interfere with OUR CHOICES, do you really think he will reach down and upgrade your kitchen with all the latest fad amenities or make sure you get to go the Prom in STYLE or tell you to patronize Luby’s, not Cheddar’s? In this world some people prosper; some do not. It is the way of the world. Some people are generous with those who are less fortunate. THEY may give you STUFF. But,IMHO, GOD does NOT give you stuff. He gave you his Son and He gave you a brain. Use it. Like I said, just some random thoughts.
Cheryl:
Sounds good to me, but I’m no Bible scholar, resident or otherwise. I just pick out the verses I like.
But speaking of keeping the bond of peace where there is disagreement, the main reason that I said I was transitioning from peep to peeper was that I felt that I was becoming harsh and ornery and too opinionated on the forum and I was not liking myself or what I was writing. In the tradition of scapegoats, it all happened around the time that the mais were being discussed, though my mai-anger flowed over into other topics. Anyhoo, I apologize if I bothered anyone on the forum besides myself. And I am ‘overcoming’ my mai-anger. Unlike at wol, if we are traveling down a road we don’t like, we can do something about it!
Hey Jack T: if it’s any consolation, I have had the same feelings. I have posted some things that have been harsh.
Personally, I try not to take that path. I have had to back off of here, for the same reasons.
At the same time, I think everyone on this Forum recognizes that we ex cult people go through many changes.
I do believe that anger, venting, and just getting things off our chest, to others that won’t judge you, does help and serves a purpose- it’s the freedom to express that anger that we need.
Jesus said, ” be angry and don’t sin”…. sometimes, I do. I don’t pretend I’ve “arrived”…. When I first went through Pastoral Counseling over the WOL thing, the Pastor, in his wisdom, let me vent, cry, slam my fists on the table, etc. He knew there were so many years of bottled up anger, resentment, and feelings of betrayal in me.
The important thing for us is that we don’t STAY in that anger. I’ts not easy, at least for me, it’s very easy to slip back into that anger and bitterness. But it’s getting easier.
You’re in a safe place to say what you want, JackT. And if you didn’t like what you said, it’s ok with us. We all have to do what we need to do- and sometimes, backing away helps- then you can come back and be a Peep instead of a Peeper. I THANK GOD that you and BOB BOB BUCKNER have had the courage to post here!
I wish ALL the ” DD appointed apostles” would post, at least once.
Blessings to you!
cp
OK Forum Peeps:
Can you all stand another comment from me? Hope so.
ISABEL! THANK YOU! I had forgotten one of the “commandments” from the “Law of DD”!
Thou shalt yell, demand, etc- from the Creator of the Whole Universe! WHY?
Because you’re a “child of the King,and you have a RIGHT to do this”!
This is pure camel caca.
Just wanted to say THANK YOU Isabel, for beinging up this very important heresy, that I can’t remember the forum discussing. Merci.
Now, I have some thing else, it’s NOT my quote. I do not know who said this, but it was passed on to me, in an email- from someone who knows nothing about WOL:
Remember: Pray requests, not answers. Praying answers is demanding that God do something when and how we want it. Praying a request is to place the need before the Lord and asking Him to answer according to His will and knowledge
Now, I know some people on the Forum will disagree with this statement- and ya know what? That’s totally FINE with me!
We Peeps must remember we are NOT the caged birds of the Cult anymore- we are FREE. And we are FREE to disagree…. if anyone disagrees with the above statement- Come on!
Let’s hear WHY!!! Personally, I am open to other’s beliefs, I am NO LONGER a slave to WOL theology- so no offense will be taken.
What say ye, Forum?
Keeping unity in the bond of PEACE,
Cheryl
OMG!!! Al quoted Jesus! We are rubbing off on him!!!!
Let’s grab him before Doyle does!!!!
LOL, Issy!
Not to contradict our resident MOL philosopher/theologian, the RevMD, but maybe just to enlighten the rest of our forumers of how Doyle justifies many of his actions…
The righteous take the Kingdom of heaven “BY FORCE”.
To Doyle, that means shouting, angry fists, outbursts of “righteous indignation”, and other physical manifestations, that all contribute to HIS Kingdom.
When David “commanded” God to “bow down your ear unto me”, or “hear my prayer, oh Lord”, this is not perceived as a simple plea for secour. NO, not to the Drama King!
“I cried unto the Lord with my voice” is translated into a public, vocal, physical manifestation that can be heard if and only if it is delivered by certain chosen people, in a certain manner, and especially if there are cameras rolling. Oh, and they must be surfs and pawns, aka “fruit” in the Kingdom of Doyle
That is the point I have been making about Ms. Mai and Ms. Small’s “testimonies”. I too cried unto the Lord with my voice, but not necessarily to be seen of man.
Not to take away from her sign stories, but they are minuscule compared to some stories I can tell. Not that anyone is keeping track or comparing, but after sucking everyone’s faith, I would have expected her to be a multimillionaire by now WITHOUT DOYLE’S moolah, according to her convictions that she was made rich, and her faith was the key to living like Donald Trump. Again, grace is not a factor to them, because this would put them on the same level as…God forbid…”others”. My question to Ms. Small is this” If your faith in finances was at the level you seem to demostrate nowadays with the new clothes and shoes, why did this same faith not pay off the IRS and save your house…without Doyle’s help? He didn’t help you with your sign business, so why did you need his help with the IRS???
The “beginning prosperity” message from Ms. Small is a joke. Not to minimize the miracles that God is capable of or has done in the lives of all of the Wollers. But her little sign business was nothing compared to the luxury flat I lived in in London and the expense accounts and 1st class trips I FORSOOK to return to being a mother to my kids and obeying God. And I didn’t even have ansesters who came over on the Mayflower! And I produced mixed race rejects of society! And I was not even related to Doyle by blood, or part of his inner circle. I didn’t suck anyone else’s faith, or spend days driving around praying at the top of my lungs. My kids didn’t go to sleep with tapes blaring away. My voice was never sore, and I never lost 50 lbs fasting. I just quietly cried out to God every time I had an electric bill that needed to be paid, or a check that needed to be covered, AFTER I forsook the material properity that God showered down on me.
I gave up much to gain my family and live a simpler life. Ms. Small gave up her family and gained the life of luxury she coveted after.
Yes, Jesus become poor so that we might be made rich. …Just to see what we would do with what He entrusted us with. Ms. Small turned the grace of God into a commandment. She looked up the word “might” and chose the meaning of the word that appropriately suited her covetous heart. “Might be rich ” became “are rich”, because doncha know we can all command God to do whatever we tell him?
Again, I am not saying we we can’t believe the gospel for our needs to be met. What I am saying is that Ms. Small claims she kept looking at that twisted scripture, instead of looking to Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, for her properity.
She learned well from her idol that she joined herself with.
No, no, no. MOL is getting big enough, we need to list titles on our website. Steven is our Theologian. RevDoc is our Most High Oppossum of Gawd and Leader. Raheem is MIA lately. Our enemies are WOL, Doyle “I’m seeing how many of the 10 commandments I can violate in one lifetime” Davidson, his harem, and eunuchs. Anything in orbit around him that has more estrogen than testosterone goes into the harem. Anything resembling a testosterone carrier is psychologically castrated and slipped into the eunuch category. Fortunately, WOL men who have enough sense to leave seem to be able to retrieve their b***s once they hit the WOL parking lot. AP7NW (Sorry Rosie, breathe. I know I said the b-word.)
Main Entry: af·fec·ta·tion
Pronunciation: \ˌa-ˌfek-ˈtā-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 1548
1 a : the act of taking on or displaying an attitude or mode of behavior not natural to oneself or not genuinely felt b : speech or conduct not natural to oneself : artificiality
2 obsolete : a striving after
Synonyms; see pose
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I read RevDrDm’s post, and as usual, I agree completly.
I didn’t know what that word meant.
However, w/o a college ejukashun
REV: you are absolutely correct in your assessment- and I am speaking as one who DID “go through the motions”. I regret it and have repented of it, and it is one of a long laundry list of things that are “wrong” with Walk of Lemmings.
cp
In her latest Let’s Talk video “I’m Not Ashamed,” Kathy Mai advises us that The Lord has instructed her to spread her ministry via Facebook where she will put up things that are not on her web page. Personally, this is not incentive enough for me to open a Facebook account.
In this week’s video we learn of the deciding event that drove Kathy back to live in Doyle’s house. Apparently she had gone to a cosmotology school in Missouri while her parents were living in Florida and had landed herself a job in a beauty shop in or around Joplin (now we know that she does have a career to fall back on when WOL goes under). She tells us how she was driving a country road in Missouri one night in the ‘71 LeMans “Sport” that daddy had given her as a high school graduation present, when suddenly some animal ran in front of it and did some damage to the bumper. She wasn’t sure what it was, it kind of looked like a jackrabbit or a deer (it’s obvious to me that she had an encounter with the very seldom seen jackalope).
In any event, she interpreted this fender bender as a sign from Gawd that he has the authority to do something really nasty to you if he wants to (like death by jackalope). So she called Daddy, who had just moved back to Texas and pleaded, “Dad, can I come home?”
Now I kind of remember a story from Doyle about Kathy crashing this car on a country road the first night she drove it, which would have been in Texas. So are we getting conflicting crash stories or is Gawd out to kill Kathy wherever she drives on country roads, be it Texas or Missouri?
Mercifully we were spared any “Discount Of The Week” story.
The Rev has it right. I don’t see anything in scripture, except for the Lord’s prayer, that tells us how to pray. Paul did mention lifting holy hands when you pray but if we are not careful, our praying and worshipping becomes mechanical. Seen a lot of that in my Pentecostal/Charismatic upbringing. Doyle is the great manipulator no doubt and I agree that it’s monkey see, monkey do at WoL. The hands at half mast, clenched fist, swatting flies, yelling, etc. We don’t tell God what to do…he instructed us to “ask” ie Mark 11, John 14. God is our heavenly Father, He is loving, kind, full of compassion and mercy…totally opposite to anything Doyle teaches.
Jack T., loved your post. Keep ‘em coming.
Regarding the noisy group “prayer” at WOL:
“And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.” — Jesus Christ
Aben,
Opossum Al
RevDoc says ‘But I am personally rather uncomfortable with an approach which favors praying in some designated physical position, either in motion or not.’ Excellent point, as usual. doyle just replaces traditions that he doesn’t like with traditions that he does like. But its all still just man’s cr*p. I haven’t been watching, but I doubt if anyone, in their free-range roaming, has gone to the front and knelt down to pray. That position would make ole dd go ballistic. But the animated positions he has taught them is okay. What a sham. Thanks Rev
yep he’d go ballistic – fer sher! It would look too much like a “Baptist Altar Call” and we ex wollers and Forum peeps know how Dull feels about that! * cp *
I find it interesting that the last few nights, Doyle has been ‘instructing’ the Wollers on the “seven kinds of prayer”. Even more entertaining is when he rebukes them for not knowing the seven kinds and then cannot remember them himself when he attempts to list them. “Praise Gawd, we’ll get this out.” You can always count on cults (and Doyle) to make things more complicated than they need to be. It’s what cults do. However, MOLCULT doesn’t approach it this way. I don’t really want to criticize how anyone prays. How you pray is your way. But I am personally rather uncomfortable with an approach which favors praying in some designated physical position, either in motion or not. I am not comfortable with shouting at God. I don’t believe God is deaf or has an attention deficit disorder. I think he hears THE FIRST TIME. I believe that when I pray, a simple acknowledgment of the situation is sufficient for God to know my concern. He knows my thoughts before I think them, so it is probably a conceit on my part to think that what I say to Him, or how I say it, is important anyway. But that’s just me. I just find it off-putting when I see the prolonged, pacing, fist-shaking, screaming, convulsing “praying’ at WOL and I wonder how much of this is affectation. I suspect many of them are ‘going through the motions’ that Doyle expects them to go through, but I could be wrong about that. I also find it disturbing when an “authority” teaches people how to pray and which motions to perform, or avoid. I can’t shake the conviction that Luke 11, 1-4 taught us what we need to know about prayer. “One day Jesus was praying in a certain place. When he finished, one of his disciples said to himn, “Lord, teach us to pray, just as John taught his disciples.” He said to them, “When you pray, say: “Father, hallowed be your name. Your Kingdom come. Give us each day our daily bread. Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation. ” The words are somewhat different in Matthew and time and various ‘versions’ of scripture have altered the exact phrasing a little, but we all recognize “The Lord’s Prayer”. The prayer, IMHO, loses something when endlessly repeated five hundred times at the top of the lungs while shaking your fist at God. I guess what I’m saying is that if you feel that you need to be taught how to pray, you might wish to consider going with Jesus’ teaching rather than what is taught by anyone else.
Once again, the MOL Oppossum hits the bullseye. Thank you Revdrdm. AP7NW
When Isabel brought up the sheep/goat thing, it reminded me of how he keeps people in line. Here are some more manipulations that I can remember.
1.If you say ‘but’ to anything he says, you’re a goat. Thanks, Isabel.
2.When you disagree with anything, you need to humble yourself. This one certainly keeps you in the cage.
3.If you have a problem with anyone, then its Your problem. That’s great, unless the other person is just flat wrong. Right and wrong do exist.
4.To be offended at something is worse than the something itself. Just kill that conscience, it’ll be okay.
5.When you come against me, you come against God. And I’m still alive, why?
6.What a person does is between that person and God. Oh, no one else was negatively affected by any of his actions? Of course not.
7.If you don’t agree with the mind of the spirit, you are in unbelief. Not believing evil is smart.
Thank God we can be wise as serpents and still be sheep. We can be smart sheep, with personal boundaries!! I know, I know…enough is enough. Irregardless, it helps me to write it.
Anyone else want to play? That’s between you and God.
i think you said that quite well- what is there to add? dd is just good at “beating the sheep”= because he can’t lead them. and that aint God!!!
yeah, we used to get sheep and goat stories too, Medic, from the Great Veterinarian himself. The sheep ate whatever was placed in front of them, but the goats “butted”…
or, like in some of our cases, said “but….”
what a baaaaaaaad joke!
yeh i never understood why he was always laughing at his own stupid remarks, like they were funny. they werent even close, our forum, now………… that’s funny! thanks isabel
Regarding “sheep” and “shepard”….
Several years ago I before I went back to the Church of Christ, I was an Anglican. We had a terrific priest named “Father Bill”. During one of his homilies, he told the story about working as a shepard in Wisconsin while he was attending seminary. To earn extra money, he tended to about 200 sheep for an elderly woman. Father Bill said that sheep are the dumbest animals God made, and that while he was a shepard realized that God may have been poking a little fun at us when He said “you are my sheep and I am your shepard”. However, at WOL, sheep may be apropos!
David: It is a little known fact that Doyle was a practicing Veterinarian. He seldom talks about it and is always very modest when he does mention it. You can hardly be held accountable if you missed the few times he mentioned it. Trivia fans may also be amazed to know that he actually SOLD his veterinary practice to devote himself to full-time Cult Leadership. And who could blame him? Better pay, better hours, better working conditions and lots of adoring females orbiting him from which to choose whom he will take as his next Waf. His career change was a no-brainer.
What’s amazing for all he has done for his gawd…he ended up giving Doyle a slut and who*e for a waff…pooooor doylie…rab
WOW, Steve…. powerful video!
A good reminder that the fields are ready to harvest but the workers are few.
May God TRULY BLESS this man, for he is truly obeying the words that Jesus told us:
“GO into ALL the world and preach the gospel”.
It brought tears to my eyes-
Thanks,
Shalom,
Cheryl
Per: the Rev’s post about the Apostles.
I think that if Paul (or was it Peter?) was the Apostle of the Uncircumcision, the least we could do would be to recognize Doyle as the Opossum of the Prefrontal Lobotomy.
Can I get an Amen?
Yes, Normal, you can get an AMEN, ABEN, AMEIN, OMEIN,….. and YEP!
Meggers,
Slap my face. I had a temp brain freeze and forgot that Doyle was a horse doctor. How could I ever forget since he reminds us almost daily of selling his practice. Technically, he could add that title…but he’s a long way from a doctorate in theology. Scary thought.
(cp here)…. Hmmmm- I didn’t realize you could get a Doctorate in Heretical Theology and Mind Control
I’m surprised that Doyle hasn’t added “Dr.” to his apostleship and being a prophet. I find it amusing that some of these big name preachers are called “Dr.” as if they earned their doctorate in theology. If you didn’t earn it, you ain’t no “Doc”. These guys, and gals, bestow, or have someone bestow these titles on them. I’m not impressed. From what I see in scripture, the early church leaders were just out there teaching the gospel, giving exortation, direction, much like a “pastor” would today. They weren’t lording it over everyone. As for the apostle thing, Doyle has promoted (others say they are apostles..I don’t buy it.) it but I don’t really see anything special or different than what a pastor would do if they are definitely being led by God and His word. I do believe in order when it comes to the local body of believers. After all, we have the final say. We can go elsewhere! Hey Doyle, they have gone elsewhere….THE GREAT DELIVERANCE CONTINUES.
One assumes he coulemploy his long-expired DVM and use Dr. legitimately, if not ethically. But that would be …oh wait. It’s Doyle “I write my own rules” Davidson. Never mind. AP7NW
Poor Dull: the wicked spirits are making him appear a bit tipsy tonight!
More yelling and confusion. I think they ENJOY yelling over each other.
At 12 minutes into it, nobody is walking around- everybody’s sitting down and yelling, I mean praying.
Dull’s the only one on the red carpet doing “tip toe through the tulips”…. Aw, he’s just so adorable, skipping along like a little kid……. NOT
cp
Steve, thanks for sharing that video. How inspiring to witness those people’s pure and simple faith, void of the corruptions of man’s religion!!
I was reminded of that verse:
how beautiful are the feet of them who bring good news.
I’ll bet that man didn’t drive off in a fancy jet or limo afterwards.
Thank you, Steve, for some very good info. Nadia, you too had some great comments.
now, both of you, please click and RSVP, so we can have church…uhm…a Christmas party, in a very untraditional, un-roman-esque fashion.
The fear tactic of humiliation and naming names apparently did not work as well as it does at WOL, and I am actually proud of my rebellious fellow forumers for not doing everything they are instructed to do (reverse psychology at it’s best- and guess who I learned THAT from?)
I have been re-thinking about the gospel lately, I have written a few things about this, and I’m not sure I understand everything yet, but I am seeing some things about the gospel we were preached at WOL and what the bible says about the gospelS (plural).
From what I understand, the FULL gospel includes the gospel of grace, as we were taught but Doyle at one time, which is defined in 1 Corinthians 15…but we did not often hear about the gospel of the Kingdom. Yes, Doyle claimed he preached that gospel as well, when he cast of devils, healed the sick…and tried to raise the dead…but he seems to have mixed the gospel of grace with HIS kingdom too. That is one of the signs of a cult: they mix truth with lies.
Another thing to think about is that we were always taught that the gospel was the death, burial and resurrection. But the word gospel means “good news”. That explains why the gospel of the kingdom was not talked about much. By “ignoring” that part of the good news, he was omitting part of the FULL gospel, so he could mix in HIS Kingdom, with the gospel of grace. I may be way off on this, but this is something I think I have just started to see in the past few days…so I don’t have the whole picture of this yet. Hope you have some input on this, Steve.
Also about the Apostles and Prophets…if Jesus the Apostle and Prophet is living and operating in us, and we have crucified our flesh by the spirit and are living HIS life, by picking up His cross daily, do we really need other people who hold those ministries to perfect us? I’m not saying I am there yet…but is it possible to attain that level of obedience? I know it would mean putting all of our sinful nature to death to allow the power of God to operate through us, but once it does, we would then have the strength to resist all temptations like Jesus did…and isn’t that perfection?
just some things I have been thinking about lately. The more I write, the more questions I have.
It sure was easier to have Doyle do all the thinking for us…
Steve:
Not only did Patti tell doyle that he was no apostle or prophet, she would also tell him, “you are lying to all those people”. I guess those stories that he came to town telling had a mighty powerful spin to them. She was there and she should know. If only she had told all of us.
Concerning Apostles
The first thing that we need to understand is that apostle is not a rank and it is not an “office” in the church – it is a function within the body.
Rev DRM is correct in defining apostle as one who is sent. Eph 4:11 says that God has given some apostles “for the perfecting of the saints for the work of the ministry until we all come in the and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:” It is clear that the saints are not perfected nor have we come to the unity of the faith or the fullness of Christ therefore I believe the function of the apostle still exists and is necessary in the Body today.
If you wish to make a distinction between the original, or foundational apostles, that being those who actually walked with and learned directly from Jesus I have no problem with that distinction. That distinction would apply to Paul as well since he saw Jesus on the road to Damascus and was taught the gospel directly from Him (Gal 1:12).
However it should be noted that the scriptures refer to others as apostles such as Barnabas, Timothy, Silvanus, and Epaphroditus none of whom were among the original 12. In the case of Epaphroditus the Greek word apostolos is translated as messenger but the original word is the same and the context is that he was one who was sent.
So the function of the apostle is one who is sent specifically to preach the gospel and in particular to those who have never heard it. Paul said he strived to preach the gospel only in places where Christ was not known lest he build on another mans foundation.(Rom 15:20) Also any modern apostle must hold to the doctrine of the original apostles. (Eph 2:20)
Those who are apostles function as apostles. To illustrate what I mean, take 10 minutes to watch this amazing video of some modern apostles in action – we call them missionaries but these guys are clearly performing the function of apostles among modern people who had never heard the name of Christ
http://livingstonesinchrist.blogspot.com/2009/04/brief-reminder-as-to-why-missions-are.html
This brings us to Doyle – is he a true apostle?
Was he sent? – According to him, yes he was
Did he bring the true gospel – No he has always taught a works based gospel that is a counterfeit to the true gospel of grace by faith.
Has he continued steadfast in the doctrine of Christ and of the original apostles – Clearly he has not.
Was he sent to those who had never heard the gospel – No, he started out with people who had been exposed to the gospel in the Baptist, Methodist, and other churches.
Don’t be fooled by Doyle’s claims that no one ever heard the gospel until he came. That is a lie. I heard the gospel in a (wicked) Baptist church when I was 7 years old and I responded with repentance and was born again at that time. Even some of you who didn’t hear the gospel in your previous religious fellowships never heard the true gospel from Doyle.
Bottom line – Doyle is no apostle. Patty knew him better than anyone and she told him years ago that he was no apostle or prophet.
I’ll be looking for that cheese sammich as compensation for all my hard work!
Well, Mr. Hine-ness Lumbley, you get a little extra cheese on that sammich for such a great post!
I totally agree with what you said above….there are still some questions I have about Doyle. I think he was a con when he was young and I think as he grew older but not taller ….. well he’s just an older little con man…. We all chose to leave that place and isn’t God AWESOME for giving us the wisdom to do so!!
Maybe now we can all be more attuned to the CONS around us?
Steve, I being a lowly MOL Profitesssssss elect you to the title of ” Cheese Sammich Apostle” may you always have plenty around you!
Good night! rab
Nadia,
“Disjointed”, are you kidding me. That was some exortation you provided. Excellent! You are quite a writer in my humble opinion.
Meggers, as usual, you have your own interesting style of reporting. Love that humor.
Steve, thanks for your usual fine input. You are probably a bit over my head but hey, who am I to take issue with the resident MOL theologian.
I defer to the Official MOLCULT Theologian, Mr. Lumbley in all matters theological. I would, ahem, like to throw this into the mix. I have been long bothered by Doyle’s self-designation as an APOSTLE and his assuming the “authority” to confer such an appelation on others who toe the WOL line. This strikes me as presumptuous (to say the least) on his part and having no scriptural basis–but I defer to Mr. Lumbley on that particular point. I thought it might be useful to look up EXACTLY what an Apostle IS. My source for this info is Easton’s 1897 Bible Dictionary. “(An Apostle is) a person sent by another; a messenger; an envoy. The word is once used as a descriptive designation of Jesus Christ, the Sent of the Father. It is however generaly used as designating the body of the disciples to whom he entrusted the organization of his church and the dissemination of his gospel, “the twelve” as they are called. We have four lists of the Apostles, one each by the synoptic evangelists and one in the Acts. No two of these lists, however, perfectly coincide. Our Lord gave them the ‘keys of the kingdom’ and by the gift of his Spirit fitted them to be the founders and governors of his church. To them, as representing his church, he gave the commission to ‘preach the gospel to every living creature’. After his ascension, he communicated to them, according to his promise, supernatural gifts to qualify them for the discharge of their duties. Judas Iscariot, one of ‘the twelve’, fell by his transgression and Matthias was substituted in his place. Saul of Tarsas was afterwards added to their number. Luke has given some account of Peter, John and the two James, but beyond this we know nothing from authentic history about the rest of the original twelve. After the martyrdom of James the Greater, James the Lesser usually resided in Jerusalem while Paul, “the apostle of the uncircumcision”, usually traveled as a missionary among the Gentiles. It was characteristic of the apostles and necessary that they should have seen the Lord and been able to testify of him and his resurrection from personal knowledge. They must have been immediately called to that office by Christ. It was essential that they be infallibly inspired, and thus secured against all error and mistake in their public teaching, whether by word or writing. Another qualification was the power of working miracles. The Apostles therefore COULD HAVE HAD NO SUCCESSORS. They are the ONLY authoritative teachers of the Christian doctrine. The office of an Apostle CEASED WITH IT’S FIRST HOLDERS. The word ‘messenger’ is the rendering of the same Greek word elsewhere rendered as ‘Apostle’.” (close quote) Well, based on this, it seems obvious that Doyle, or anyone else for that matter, can NOT justifiably hold the title Apostle OR have the authority to grant such a title to anyone else. Mr. Lumbley, the MOL CULT Theologian-Elect may choose to weigh in on this interpretation. Be that as it may, the early church founders appear to have been justifiably concerned about individuals coming forth to pervert the teachings of Jesus Christ and therefore the title of Apostle was closely held. Their concern was validated as we have seen individuals like Doyle through the ages usurp the Power and Authority of Christ for themselves, with predictable, and often catastrophic, results. The old adage comes to mind: ‘power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely’. Doyle’s ‘authoritative’ hold on his CULT should be sufficient proof of the wisdom of the church fathers to restrict an individual’s power over the Body of Christ/the Church. As Raheem once put it: “Yoo can take a alligator, cut off its tail, paint it yellow and call it a dog, but is no dog just cause yoo say so. Is alligator and is pretty mad alligator at that.” That Doyle calls himself an Apostle and Prophet just doesn’t make it true. And don’t even get me started about how he isn’t a Prophet.
If the one man rule was something like Samuel, or Abraham or even Moses, a prophet whom God paid attention to and did not suffer any of his words to fall to the ground, maybe we would have a case. Even Moses who spoke with God face to face as a man speaks to his friend was not so high minded. He had a father in law, Jethro, who advised him on how to delegate and govern the people of God and God had no problem with it…and about Moses, he had a wife that some people did not approve of and when they went against Moses because of his wife, there were some very dire consequences. I don’t see God any bothered about defending Doyle and his “wives”…Lisa and Kathleen Small, much less even try to make any of Doyle’s words not fall FLAT on the ground. It’s in the Bible Doyle, read about true prophets like Samuel and Moses and Elijah whom God answered. When Elijah needed to raise some people from the dead, I am sure according to the will of God, since they actually did rise up from the dead…the woman with the dead child, I wonder how Elijah was so confident and know that this kid was going to live again. Could it be that he, Elijah, could hear God?
Send me a prophet that says, “In 40 days Nineveh will be destroyed”, and if I am a Ninevite, I repent and my life is spared. That is a prophet worth his keep. I would send him my tithes till I turn blue in the face because he actually saved my life by the word of the Lord. Send me a prophet who says “If you don’t get into this ark, you will be destroyed in a big flood”. And I peradventure pay attention and get into the ark and 40 days later, it rains and wipes out the whole world, maybe except the fish. That is a Noah that is worth his keep. I will pay attention to him. God took the pains to send prophets that there was no mistaking who they spoke for and their words were sure, you could bet on it. The apostles were not high minded either, they had councils and disputed matters of doctrine among elders and God did not kill them for not following just Paul or Peter. The pride that lifts up a mortal man to think that he is the final authority on doctrine, and people’s lives, and what not is the kind of pride that God resists. God let some of us former Wollers get into all kinds of trouble because we followed this pride and were partakers of it’s consequences. When you are prideful, there is nothing God can do for you but resist you. Hopefully resist you hard enough to knock some senses into your head before it is too late. It is better to get out of WOL battered and bruised having incurred God’s resistance while there is still time to repent and start living in a land where God does not resist you anyomore. As long as you are alive, dear Wollers, God has not resisted you all he can, if he does, we will be inscribing something on your headstone. God is full of mercy , slow to anger and will put up with prideful people for a long time, but how long noone knows. So consider how much resistance there is in your life, why everyday seems to be a rebuke to your life and don’t be so high minded to think you are overcoming the Jezebel. Ejijah did not fight the Jezebel with every waking breath he had, She is the one who was spending her time trying to kill him. Elijah overcame the woman, appointed a King that killed her in a rather bloody display, killed all her 800 plus false prophets and stopped the rain for three and a half years and got the rain back again right in her backyard. And when Elijah called, God answered with fire and that was not after 36 years of fighting the Jezebel.
This wall before your face that you all may be calling the Jezebel resisting you, may be a brick wall set there by God, hopefully that you may bang your head on it long enough and bleed your brain into submission to God not Doyle.
You may want to quit submitting to a man who sells you a God who cannot keep teeth from falling out, cannot bring other people’s wives back to him after their husbands take them back, cannot tell him who the next president is going to be…let alone tell him to watch the pollsters and come close…Cannot get his grand daughters married, cannot keep his apostles by the power of God like Jesus preserved his apostles from running away, Cannot stop the authorities from running some of his sheep out of a room in Lakeville, Cannot stand and defend his words on You tube and has to hide behind “wicked” copyright laws….sheesh. Sorry for the disjointed thoughts forum peeps.
WOLlers are hitting the road 3 times in the near future according to the “NEW!” blurbs on Drool’s site.
Also, Ms. “I’m dumping my God-given husband for a sugar-daddy” Davidson has a new, and I’m sure enlightening, broadcast for us all on “beginning prosperity”.
Having not had lunch yet, I haven’t the fortitude to listen to it. But here’s the bottom line, Ms. D.
Every MOL woman could do it the way you did – finding ourselves some guy and going after the money, even when our consciences tell us it’s wrong. The difference is, we have more respect for ourselves and our families.
Walking out on a husband and dragging your kids to another man’s home is anything BUT Godly behavior. I don’t care if Jack couldn’t keep you in the manner you wanted, toots. You knew what he was when you married him. That’s on you. Better or worse. Remember that?
There’s no more validity to your claiming Gawd told you to leave Jack, than to me blowing up Raheem’s goat pen and claiming Jesus told me to do it.
You can put a pig in pearls and a girdle, and call it whatever name you want, but that don’t make it the prom queen, baby.
You sold out. And this newest lecture confirms WHY you sold out.
Nice. Real nice. Your poor, poor children. You deserve to have them taken away from you. And God willing, one day they’ll be clear enough mentally to see what you put them through. And then? You’ll have no one to blame but yourself.
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uh oh… here comes some more “flattering divination” from Cheryl!
Excellent post Meg- You tell her, Most High Profitess from the NW!
OK – if you guys expect me to be the MOL cult theologian in residence you’re going to have to pony up some scratch. I mean you should at least send a nice little honorarium my way when I post something.
In the mean time I’ll continue as an occasional guest contributor.
The problem of “ruling” over the church goes deeper than one man rule versus a group of elders or deacons and it is not confined to the Charismatic churches. In fact this problem is inherent in the institutional church system. I am not condemning every church or pastor but the whole idea of dividing the body of Christ into a clergy class and a laity class is anathema to the teaching of our Lord.
The reformers did us all a great service when they separated from the established (Catholic) church over the primacy of salvation by grace through faith (rather than works) and sola scriptura. But what they failed to do was reform the authoritarian structure of the church. In fact they brought the same ecclesiastical hierarchy with them into protestantism.
The authoritarian nature and class system of the church is so deeply ingrained in most of us that it is difficult if not impossible for many people to see any other way of “doing” church. That is one reason we have so much controversy about home churches, internet churches, informal fellowships of believers and so on.
What I see going on today is a new reformation, led by the Lord himself in which he is calling His sheep out of this divisive, man centered, control oriented system. Many will come out of the religious system all together and develop relationships with other believers that will evolve into the functional body that Christ ordained. Others will see their typical church fellowships change into a more Christ centered and less man centered body. Unfortunately some will remain in the rotting corpse known as “the church” and will never know the fullness of a relationship with Christ unhindered by man made traditions.
Here is an excellent article on the subject
http://www.wickedshepherds.com/DoEldersRule.html
Here is a more detailed E-Book on this issue
http://prayershack.freeservers.com/book_GEC.html
Steve Lumbley, come on down. You’re the winner of a grilled cheese sammy. It’s waiting here in my kitchen. How quick can you hop on a plane? Does our gratitude count for anything? AP7NW
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That “Wicked Sherherds” website is pretty good, isn’t it! *cp*
As Americans, we would never put up with a one man rule, but we seem to have no problem with it when it comes to our local church. And its not even Scriptural. I think our fallen souls have to find bondage somewhere; and what better place than in the church-house. Its much harder to accept our own uniqueness (whether anyone else does or not) and to be true to God and our core when you are a sheep. Being a goat is not the answer. But a sheep must learn to be strong and not let anyone invade his personal boundaries. That invasion is not for the greater good, the “glory of God” or even the body of Christ. Its for control by the leader and bondage for the led.
It’s obvious that Doyle is not following New Testament scripture the way he lords it over the folks. There were church leaders in that day, Paul, Timothy, Barnabas, etc (BTW, I’m no theologian, where are you Steve L.?)but we never see where they acted like Doyle does. From what I read, they followed the teachings of Christ in love. What we have had for several years is the one man, one rule thing mostly in Charismatic churches (and TV preachers) using scripture to build their riches. Seems like I read in scripture where the leaders were to be full of the Holy Ghost, good family men, you know, one wife, good character…I’m paraphrasing but there is an example. I have heard the independents criticise those churches who have deacon boards “who control the church”. That may be true somewhere but I have seen even worse with the one man rule and all sorts of bad stuff happens. There has to be oversight by someone. I don’t want to throw the baby out with the dishwater. Doyle and his minions have mush for brains.
I found the website from this other website-
http://www.batteredsheep.com/abusive.html
If you go to THAT page, it has tons of links to all kinds of stuff about cults/abusive churches, etc.
Somewhere on there is Wendy Duncan’s book.
I like that website: wicked shepherds- it’s a good one…. anyway- this website is a good one for resources.
Blessings and Shalom,
CP:)
i have to chime in on the judge in louisiana who refused to marry a couple because it would be hard on the kids,, not sure why the present presidential administration did not step in here,, i just dont get it,, way back in the mid sixties, pre-teenager, i rode the greyhound bus through memphis to mississippi, over through alabama, when the bus stopped, i got out and there was a water fountain that said “colored” and one that said “white” and a bathroom that said “white” and one that said “colored” that stuck in my mind for so long,, i went to elementary school in alabama in grades 2 through 6 and the “colored” school was way down the street..then later when i was riding the bus , about 13, i saw a girl carrying a record album that said “are you experienced, jimi hendrix”,, i just dont know what it will take to kill racism in this country, it has been a pox for so long. it is still around you know,, i thank god i have come out ok , i think, out of such a long long dark place in history
yeh, james- go ride in the south- you will see confederate flags and signs that read “the south will rise again”. yeh, right- just like DD’s ministry will.
Whatever…. I grew up in Florida… very very racist! I thank GOD I wasn’t raised by racist parents…. I never heard about racism- but then again, I led sheltered life. and Yes, I mostly went to school with “white” kids.
Until Jr High- we moved to a “college town” where I became friends with African Americans, Asians, Hispanics, and Jews.
To me- they were just “kids”.
I am thankful for that.
cp
oooops. My bad. I posted the link to the same article Cheryl shared. I did find something else from that site, and I put it on mine. It’s a picture of one of Doyle’s descendants!
Maybe we should all send in several reasons why Doyle is numero uno!
Too bad we can’t send in a “mah waf is a Sl*t” clip
signed,
MOM
Cheryl: that website is awesome.
This one is long, but man, it has WOL down to a TEE!
http://www.wickedshepherds.com/WhenShouldaChristianLeaveaChurch.html
I was going to copy parts, but there are too many!
that’s why I had to just snip a part from “the wicked shepherds”….
I bet if this person got enough people to do it, DD would be inducted into the Hall of Fame- I mean, Hall of Shame!
Reading this information really boggles my mind because I have never seen anything that comes close except for Doyle. The elders and deacons in any church I have ever attended didn’t really have any authority over the attendees and no pastor ever did anything close to what Doyle has done. I mentioned the Charismatic church experience but it was nowhere close to WoL. I believe another word for pastor is shepherd. I have had some wonderful pastors in my life who really did minister and care for the flock. They taught the word, visited the sick, were there in death, so my experiences in total have been very good. I just shake my head that any semi-intelligent person would submit to a nutcake like Doyle. He has to be the worst of the worst.
David: scroll down to the “Hall of Shame”. The webmaster doesn’t have the list up yet, but he IS compiling names, and asks if anyone knows of anyone that fits that description. You can send an email, name the person and are asked WHY they should be in there. IMHO, there’s enough info on DD, to enter him as #1!
cp
Cheryl: great article! That is exactly why Doyle doesn’t want anyone snooping around on the net.
I haven’t watched the picnic scene yet…but I bet THEY clicked on THEIR rsvp’s…
click it or ticket!!!
Don’t make me start calling out names!
Issy: glad you liked the article
Uh-oh folks, Issy’s getting that
“mom” tone in her voice- ya’ll
better RSVP, or she’ll start beating
YOUR sheepish tush’s ! LOL
From Cheryl:
The article I was referring to was this one- it’s rather long, so if you are short on time, at least read this exerpt:
Blessings and Shalom! cp
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A heartfelt joyous assurance has the appearance of being a cardinal sin. These men forget that “only believe” is the essence of the gospel of grace just as much as “easy believe” is the essence of error. The old Testament prophets were just as harsh in condemning another kind of preaching as they were in denouncing the preachers of false peace:
“Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of my pasture”! declares the Lord. Therefore this is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says to the shepherds who tend my people: “Because you have scattered my flock and driven them away and have not bestowed care on them, I will bestow punishment on you for the evil you have done,” declares the Lord…”I will place shepherds over them who will tend them, and they will no longer be afraid or terrified, nor will any be missing,” declares the Lord. Jer.23:1-5
How many sincere sheep do you know who “have been scattered” because of the tyranny of pastors and elders?
How many sincere believers do you know who have been “afraid and terrified” even to speak what was in their hearts for fear of the elder’s discipline?
How many husbands and wives have been alienated in their affections from each other because of the intrusion of the church or elder into their relationship with each other.
Many of you who read these lines have seen in practice what the following verse describes:
The prophets follow an evil course and use their power unjustly. Jer. 10:23
I would to God that some of the preachers who have split churches over the issue of “elder authority” would ponder Ezekiel 34. Usually when people are run out of a church for refusing to obey the “duly authorized elders” (which, interpreted, means refusing to sell your conscience in “unquestioning obedience” to the eldership), they are never visited personally by the pastor.
They are not contacted in any manner except to be informed in a “duly authorized” letter that quotes a lot of verses (mostly out of context) and then informs the “rebel” that he has been “duly” excommunicated from the church, or cult, as the case may be. Sometimes, not too often, the rebel is told that the elders are willing to consider receiving him back as soon as he will genuinely repent, which of course means, kiss the pope’s ring in submission.
This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Woe to the shepherds of Israel who only take care of themselves! Should not shepherds take care of the flock? You eat the curds, clothe yourself with the wool and slaughter the choice animals, but you do not take care of the flock. Ezek. 24:2,3
If you were a pastor whose church was sacrificing to pay you close to $50,000 a year in salary and benefits and putting less than $1,000 a year into any kind of mission work, how should you feel when you read the above words from Ezekiel?
If you were helping to pay that $50,000.00 salary and you were personally being treated like a dog, or even worse, maybe that pastor was systematically turning your wife (or husband) and children against you, how should you feel when you read the following verses from the Word of God?
DOYLE: YOU WON’T get the WOLLER APOSTLES BACK BY RUNNING IN CIRCLES! THIS IS WHY THEY AND THE REST OF US LEFT- and get it? WE AREN’T COMING BACK!
You have not strengthened the weak or healed the sick or bound up the injured. You have not brought back strays or searched for the lost. You ruled them harshly and brutally. So they were scattered…. Ezek. 34:4,5
If you are a pastor who has driven families out of your congregation only because they dared to disagree with you, and you have never visited one of them to try to resolve the difficulty, who do you think God is talking about in Ezek. 34:2-5?
My friend, beating the sheep into subjection with the supposed “duly authorized office of eldership” and sending them home bleeding and wounded is just as hateful to God as daubing with untempered mortar.
Rubbing salt into an open wound is exactly what many preachers do week after week.
Because true sheep have tender consciences, a false preacher can pummel them to death with two big clubs.When the law (club number one) is swung by the “duly authorized prophet of God” (club number two), you have a gruesome twosome that will bring any tender conscience into subjection and fear.
When one of these sheep finally gets enough courage to leave such a church, or in one writer’s words, “…with a sigh of relief some sheep escape such ministries,”
I guarantee you that God does not view this “escape” as rebellion against His “duly authorized church.”
He views it as a refusal by a sheep to follow a false shepherd. When a child of God flees from that kind of tyranny, he is being obedient to the voice of his one true Shepherd and he is rejecting the authority of a false prophet.
The amazing thing about this sad situation is that so many sincere sheep seem willing to submit to a form of Romanism without challenging it with Scripture. The word of Jeremiah is true in many churches today:
A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land: The prophets prophesy lies, and priests rule by their own authority, and my people love to have it this way.” Jeremiah 5:30,31
Amazing!
OK Rev…..
and ALL you Forum Peeps:
Just tell me, WHO sneaked a camera into WOL last night, after the internet broadcast was over?
Huh? I bet Bob did this! Or maybe J in K ? C’mon fess up peeps!
Is that Ant Reece in the Tuxedo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sTqJE4sdb0
Cheryl, thanks for the link about what to look for in leaving a church. I have only attended one church, a Charismatic one, where I thought the leadership was starting to try and control things like the pastor basically appointing the Elders that he wanted. Doctrine started to get weird so I finally said it’s time to leave. I’ve always been a person who refused to be manipulated by anyone much less a preacher. The scripture says that pastors, teachers, apostles if you will, evangelists, etc were given to the body for “the pefecting of the saints”. I don’t think that means we check our brain at the door. You can call yourself an apostle but that means nothing to me. Anyone can do that. I know integrity when I see it and guys like Doyle, Terry, Basil, Steve, Donnie and others who are still there have zero integrity in my opinion. WoL stinks to high heaven.
I have to agree with you David. Thanks. Yeh, people can call me WEIRD all they want to- I don’t care anymore. After what I have SURVIVED at WOL, I am now in a place where they are the exact opposite of DD and his “crew”. There is NO LEADER- it’s run by two Elders (both men)…. there has to be 3 on a board for tax exempt status, we know that. I’m now in a place where NOBODY is in each other’s business! Controlling? The opposite! Now, if you are a “regular” that attends all the time, you may get an email with someone asking “Just making sure you’re ok. Is there anything we can do? If so, let us know”-
THAT IS IT.
I am now in a place where people are true servants of each other, and the people aren’t there to glorify nor serve a “master”- a human man like DD!
Thanks David-
CP
Attendance at MOLCULT functions continues to rise exponentially and we too have instituted the free-range worship technique Doyle now practices. For a video peek at a recent service go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQW8eb1P3dk Viewers should take note of the size of the crowd, the fervor with which the Holy MOLY-Culters ‘worship’ and the relatively few life-threatening injuries sustained. Viewers are advised to turn the sound off as the neighbors will think you are killing cats.
ROFL. I clicked on this. Small White was sitting beside me and he went vertical. I assume he’ll come downstairs again. Eventually. Maybe. Someday. Poor Small. It’s hard being the MOLCultCat. I should think he’d deserve at least a Grade 1 Oppossumship for his endurance, if nothing else. AP7NW.
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(CP) I agree- Poor Small White! And why didn’t anybody tell ME about the MOL outdoor picnic? Or am I confused? I watched the You Tube… I really thought I saw KSmall in the middle, twirling in circles, and wasn’t that an old tape of the WOL Boys? Hmmmmmm…………
RevDoc – I noted that talking into a clenched fist, Terry Mai’s old M.O., too. Jenny Brown started it early in the walk-a-thon but didn’t continue doing it for long. Then Kathy Mai and Candace Mai took it up to the point where it looked like they were walking around sucking their thumbs. Naturally once Kathy started, old “Monkey See Monkey Do” Terre Brown started talking into her fist. That big dude, I think his last name is Carpenter, got into it also. I don’t know what the purpose of this is. Since Terry Mai started it, my guess is that when he first started driving around town shouting prayers out the car window he soon found that he was inhaling flying insects at 50 m.p.h. but that holding his hand in front of his mouth solved the problem. Doing that soon became second nature to him, then others saw it, thought it was “kewl” and gave it a shot.
Just got my first look at the new WoL worship service…Sunday AM #1. What a chaotic orchestratin by Doyle. Soon we will see “stop signs, right turn only, left turn lane, red lights, caution, right lane for slow walkers, school zone (for kids). What a bunch of hooey.
Remember, Doyle says he is having fun. Where? Apostles are gone, giving is down, attendance is WAY down. Not his fault….it’s those wicked unbeleivers in the blue chairs. Doyle, you are pathetic. Ralph, if you are reading, don’t be swayed by your evil uncle. Stay away!
The good news is, at some point, it’s gonna require a traffic cop. Once the police get in there, well. That’ll end the whole shebang! Go Doyle! AP7NW
RELATED GOOD ARTICLE:
http://www.wickedshepherds.com/WhenShouldaChristianLeaveaChurch.html
Blessings to all
UPDATE: from the same website, you can email this person the name of a “pastor” whose name he can put into the “hall of shame”
http://www.wickedshepherds.com/HALLOFSHAME.html
I am NOT endorsing this whole website, but I find this interesting- cp
the foot dunking took place in the fellowship hall, close to a sourse of H20. They did change out the water between dunks.
Wonder why they call it the fellowship hall? We USED to have fellowship there at first. It should be called the Zombiship hall now.
Apparantly Doyle is trying to show the world how he is loosening the reins on those captive, caged birds of his.
They sure aren’t flying far from the coop!
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For those that aren’t “way- back- wollers” like Isabel and myself, there is a room adjacent to the sanctuary, where there are more blue chairs and a large screen TV where people with small children, kids that must do homework, etc, can sit in there and watch DD on the TV. I think this is Scott Parker’s room where he prays for people to hawk up their fur balls.
Isabel is correct: We used to have WEDDING RECEPTIONS, POT-LUCK DINNERS, WOL Christian Training School, New Year’s Eve Parties, Baby Showers, etc. There used to be a full service kitchen with washer/dryer in there, too.
Those days are GONE- all it’s left for is TV … and fur- ball expulsions.
CP
Like I said before: the fervent prayer of a righteous cult availeth much:
Judge who denied interracial couple marriage in Louisiana resigns
Keith Bardwell, the Justice-Of-The-Peace who denied an interracial couple Louisiana marriage resigns, according to a breaking news email from CNN.
Bardwell, a Tangipahoa Parish Louisiana Judge (outside New Orleans), became famous for rejecting Terence McKay and his girlfriend Beth Humphrey, who wanted to be married by Bardwell. But Keith decided to show the country what real racism was when he said “I do it to protect the children, he reportedly said. The kids are innocent and I worry about their futures” when asked why he would not marry an interracial couple.
What’s even more frightening is Judge Bardwell did not think he was a racist. According to the Associated Press, Bardwell said this:
“I’m not a racist. I just don’t believe in mixing the races that way,” Bardwell told the Associated Press on Thursday. “I have piles and piles of black friends. They come to my home, I marry them, they use my bathroom. I treat them just like everyone else.”
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Let’s keep praying, folks. this is a sign!
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WOW! The Judge is such a NON-racist, he even lets “blacks” use his bathroom! Now THAT, friends, is real “civil rights” in action. Yep, that’s progress- Louisiana must be so proud.
What a redneck idiot Judge.
LOL!!!
The random and directionless walking continued Tuesday night. Doyle’s latest variant of ‘worship’ is a powerful metaphor for the lack of direction at WOL. The congregation seemed to be somewhat at a loss when forced to make the individual decisions involving direction. These are people who literally do not know which way to turn and one could sense their discomfort as Doyle and KathieD sat in the back observing their walking. At one point MrsD appeared to be hawking up a furball or Jezebel or something but recovered nicely when Doyle allowed the music to start and the dancing to resume. The new walking worship, which requires a mandatory change in direction every 5 seconds much like figure skating compulsories, does not seem to be inspiring the Wollers. The Walkers seemed positively lethargic although there was much whooping and hollering as the Wollers spoke into their clenched fists. I am unclear what the significance of this is. Perhaps someone could enlighten me. Is it possibly homage to the walking/ casting out devils style of Terry Mai? Whatever the meaning of this, the Wollers’ lack of enthusiasm for the new worship technique could not have been lost even upon Doyle as they shuffled around the open spaces like concentration camp inmates unable to adapt to their newfound freedom. Eventually the strain of thinking for themselves proved to be too much and they lapsed back into their old pattern of endlessly circling on the carpet. Mercifully Doyle called for Terry’s old CD to be fired up and the Woller’s spirits perked up once more as the ladies entered into their usual rousing dance number (with all the familiar, and therefore comfortable, moves) while the men resumed their familiar pattern circling the blue chairs. Basil has given up even pretending to sing along with Terry’s CD. I’m not a lip-reader, but whatever he’s singing doesn’t match the words coming over the sound system. It resembles nothing so much as an old 1960’s movie about gladiators which was filmed in Italian but dubbed into English and in which the actors and the sound-track are totally asynchronous. MOLCULT Prophecy: the new experiment with random walking will be quickly discarded.
Well, Rev- seems like the Forum Peepers are all in bed, except for me, the Insomniac(Cheryl).
I found your obervances quite amusing- and I agree. If you watched Sundays AM and PM shows, Doyle tried very hard to “convince” them, NOT to walk in the same direction. The purpose for them to walk all over the building, is to “get free”- from what? I decided perhaps he’s freeing them from his own brainwashing technique? He also told them they are “praying” for us pathetic apostles and nobodies, that left because Satan snatched us away from WOL. Peronally, I give GOD the credit, not the devil. The Wollers MUST pray the apostles “home” to roost, we are told. And YES, they ARE unable to think for themsleves. Ever watch the OLD Sci-Fi Movie THX1138 with Robert Duvall? All of their daily living activities were preplanned for them. And you are right- they all look like they are on Thorazine, Haldol, or large amounts of diazepam. How do you “unbrainwash” a Woller?
By making them walk in circles? I dont think so…..
They pray into clenched fists out of mimicing Terry Mai, and the other apostles and of course the Grand Dragon himself.
I find amusing: the way they walk and YELL (pray) … hold their right hand, clenched fist, and shake it, as if they are swatting flies at the ground. Is there an infestation at WOL?
You bet there is- but not the type the WOL_NUTS think! Shaking a clenched hand is just chimp-mimicing behavior:
Can anyone say “Bright Eyes” from Planet of the Apes?
lol ———-cp
I’m here :+)
AH
JackT:
I just re-read your answer….
you “used my name in vain”????
Surely you jest!
LOL!
blessings, Bro….
Cheryl
ok, Isabel:
About the Pedy-ker Party at WOL:
(the faint hearted shouldn’t read this)….
But, I just HAVE to ask this question:
Since I wasn’t there, as many on this forum weren’t- how did this Dr Scholl’s Holy Footbath take place?
Oh- do tell….. they DID change the water in between WOLLER’s didn’t they? Or not?
Say it ain’t so! >:-O
CP
okay, I know most of you have to pray about your RSVP response, so just let us know and we will join our faith to yours.
we must all overcome our wicked unbelief in order to click YES, NO or MAYBE.
It must be Bob the Baptist holding everyone up again…at least he had the faith to click his RSVP!!!
at least the Baptists can make up their mind! lol!
I RSVP’d “maybe”
cp
Cheryl:
You express yourself very well. I knew you were being facetious as did everyone else, I’m sure. I was just referencing Your List. I apologize if you thought I was ‘using your name in vain’. When I mentioned that I would never return, it was not a ‘jab’ at you. What I was thinking as I was ‘living inside my head’ (as the RevDoc would say) was what I would do if I received a phone call inviting me to dinner. So, I was thinking about Ralph, not your post. But I was thinking about Your List because the wait-and-see-ers just might go back. I would never put you in the wait-and-see category. I know that I’m not in that category.
Isabel:
Thanks.
(Cheryl)…. no sweat JACKT!
I have however made myself “misunderstood” at times, and not gotten my point across—-
Perfect Example: the poorly written and poor way I was “quoted” in “DMagazine” s article on Drool- totally made me look like a one dimensional idiot! ( I don’t think I am)
At any rate, please know, I wasn’t Offended- just wanted to make sure everybody understood, including you, what I meant.
By the way, I HOPE no one gets offended at my remark about Ralph’s lack of integrity- but if he KNEW about DD and LS like my CLOSE trusted friends have told me, I don’t believe Ralph had any integrity- Let me rephrase that…. he didn’t at the time. Let’s hope , like us, he has changed and repented!
Mercy and grace, for ALL of us, Amen???
Blessings,
Cheryl
Hey, I’d go if you went, Jack…matter of fact, maybe Baptist Bob and Rosie, Lynn and Robert, Lisa and Cheryl and James and Lumbley would go too. We could sit down during “live streaming” and ask questions and demand answers, we could even go while he is PUI, for the fun of it.
The Bereans did this, and I’m not scared. I wish he WOULD lay a hand on us.
Between you and I, we probably know every attorney in the metroplex.
It’s not sin to confront those who have gone astray. If God is for us, who could be against us? It would all be streamed live anyway.
I noticed now with this last funeral, that it was a “closed” one. They never did that before. Maybe they didn’t like the “intruder” at Terry’s?
Who is really scared of who? If Doyle was preaching the truth, why can’t he answer a few questions?
Oh, I forgot. Doyle claims the Bereans were “demonized”…just like everyone else with half a brain.
Yeh, Izzy, my husband is 300 pounds- and strong as an ox…. but even I could take on pip squeak Drool!!!! I just wouldn’t “debase” myself by going there- but if you guys ever DO—- LEt me know so I can tune in!
CP
Inalley:
Yep, I remember the foot-washin’. Just a control manipulation, IMHO. If he really wanted to be a ’servant of all’, he woulda done a whole lotta things differently.
As far as ever returning, there is only one speaker that could ever drag me back there. And its not Ralph. Even if doyle did all that repenting that Cheryl listed for us the other day, I would not return. The only speaker that could ever get me back is ….. me. And I really wouldn’t be going “back”, I’d be going to try and un-wash their feet, er, I mean brains, unwash their brains. Rots o’ ruck with that one. Probably be better off howling into the wind.
Hi Jack (cheryl): I was being…. um- I don’t know the word I need… but perhaps “facetious” is it?
I was NOT being serious.
What I was trying to convey – in my own words – was that it is extremely unlikely that ALL these things were never going to happen. I guess sometimes I don’t express myself as well as I anticipate, and don’t get my point across. Mea culpa!
Jack, what I was TRYING to say is this:
I’m never ever going back there, no matter if they walk in circles, and hit their foreheads into the walls! Your name was mentioned, but “God shut Doyle’s mouth”- and never said anything about you- he started to, but chalk it up to the grace of God or Doyle’s dementia- whichever- he didn’t take it any further.
I was just using the list as an example….
Blessings,
Cheryl
i would really be surprised if ralph edge came back, the only reason his name is mentioned is he really is d’oils nephew. if he does he will have to give me one heck of an explanation, as i would definitely hunt him down and demand some answers. only because i led worship for him for a year and did what he said before the meetings every time, he would come and talk and sometimes pray etc,, he left me high and dry with no explanation when he left, and i emailed him asking questions etc,, not that he owes me anything but simple humanity.
J in K : he is Doyle’s NEPHEW by marriage to Patti Davidson- correct me if I’m wrong, somebody. Patti’s family is how “d’oil” is related to him. Unless I goofed again- Cheryl
Is there a schism at WOL? As someone here mentioned, on Sunday Anthony Reece at Broken Arrow fell-in lockstep with Doyle’s new directionless walking worship routine but Peacock in South Bend did not. Maybe he’s forming a breakaway sect, the WOL Benderite Church? Will some of the WOL Planoites who prefer the more traditional directional walking join the Benderite sect? Is this a rift that will affect the other motel churches? Or perhaps Doyle just forgot to inform Peacock in time.
Ya just gotta foment insurrection and paranoia doncha? That’s why MOL is so very proud of you! AP7NW
Yep Meg, I guess we are twins seperated at birth. That Monty Python silly walks skit went through my mind also.
Let me think as to who would balk at doing some really stupid things at WoL. Maybe Kay Clark. Mike Peter’s wife, maybe. She is a CPA and so is Mike. (I think) but they have long checked their brains at the door. I couldn’t believe how Mike really laughed at Doyle’s F-Bomb last week. If Robyn and Matt Obernst are still there, she might balk. Seems like a classy lady. Haven’t watched much lately so they may be gone. Hope so! Can’t think of anyone else that’s left that might balk. The rest are Doylets for sure.
uh, excuse YOU, Ms. Cheryl, but Doyle DID do the foot washing thing many years ago. I’m sure Jack T. and “Baptist” Bob remember…He had the important people washing the feet of us less important ones. Just another way of establishing who was who in the kingdom of Doyle.
As usual, the Rev and I both have our explanations of “the decline”, both a little different, but both very plausible. I just finished writing about the Gospel of Doyle’s kingdom.
I find it interesting that Doyle is trying to woo people back into the fold. Maybe he realizes that with Terry gone, Ralph is the only hope to carry the torch. If he were to STEP AWAY COMPLETELY, how many people would mosey on back if Ralph did take the reins? Seems like another weak attempt at damage control. Ralph is a likeable guy, and he showed some integrity by leaving, but how much did he really know and keep from the rest of us to protect the kingdom of Doyle?
ONLY GOD KNOWS…
AW, GEE WHIZ ISSY!!! I missed the WOL Pedicure- A- Thon?
LOL!
As for Ralph Edge’s integrity, this much I DO KNOW from other EX wollers.
Again, this is hearsay- but from what I have been told but reliable people, Ralph DID know about the DD/LS situation. If so, all those years he kept that a secret? That shows a lack of integrity, IMHO-cp
Yes, RevDRdm has hit the nail again right on the head. Doyle, I mean, Dull, will be looking to pull something/ANYTHING to keep the Woller’s interest and the $money$ flowing in.
My own personal feeling is that, he really doesn’t need the “pay-pil” as much as he needs the money. Yes, he needs an audience, but just a few- to feed his ego.
It wouldn’t surprise me- whatever is coming up around the bend, as far as what the voices in his head tell him to do.
Let’s see- he’s subjected them to the “greet each other with a holy kiss”- so we’ve had the WOL “Spit Swap”.
Maybe next we’ll have the “Foot Washing” Ordinance. Still practiced amongst many Christian denominations (the Anabaptists, (Amish) as well as others)….
Now- THAT would be interesting!!! Tune in to see “Who washes who”!!!
Anybody wanna take bets as to who would get the honors of doing the Tootsie Splish -Splash with Mrs. Brown? I’m guessing NOT her hubby. Nah, I’d bet on Dull himself doing the honors.
Anyone else wanna guess?
Watching the WOL’ers immediately respond to Doyle’s whims on how he requires them to walk inside the building I wonder if there’s a point at which they would draw the line rather than look more stupid? Would they walk backwards? Crawl on all fours? Goose step?
Or….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhlQfXUk7w
BOB: I’m still wondering how they would manage to form a line at the local Cafeteria for Sunday Lunch?
If they still do this- do they have to draw straws, to see who sits next to the Most High False Profit and Her Highness Miss Profitess Illiterate?
hee hee-
CP
AP7NW
It has often been said on the Forum that the death spiral of WOL wold be interesting to watch, but who could have predicted the infinite variety of insanity that has come forth from Plano. Doyle has been hit with one problem after another and has been proven thoroughly incapable of dealing with the challenges of running a Cult. There is a concept in psychology called “living in your head”. It describes a condition in which a person focuses their thoughts inwardly rather than outwardly and becomes rather obsessional regarding their own correctness of thought. Doyle lives in his head and it must be a ghastly place because he is flailing about trying desperately to generate some spark in his decaying Cult. Doyle seems to have went off the deep end when he was living alone and obsessing about Lisa ‘coming home’. He staked much of his reputation, as it were, on his prophecy/order that Lisa would come back to him. With her failure to return and the very visible failure to conceive “John”, he drank deeply of the fruit of the vine, the only Fruit at WOL, and he never recovered from that episode. With the increase of his drunken tirades, there was a corresponding decrease in the number of occupied Blue Chairs. He began to lose, this time for good, many long-time followers as his clearly visible mental decline became too much for even them. Terry Mai’s death seemed to throw him for a loop. Terry was the Heir-Apparent and Pretender to the Throne of WOL and now the whole enterprise seems adrift. Even Doyle seems to have recognized that the years of mind-bending he applied to his only daughter have rendered her incapable of assuming a real leadership position at WOL. His paranoia and fear of displacement at the center of attention will not allow him to permit any of the “men” (and I use the term loosely) to step up to a leadership position. Even if he were to do so, I suggest that there is a serious lack of intellectual firepower in any of the possible candidates for elevation. Kathleen’s arrival have solved some problems for Doyle and created others. He’s hitting the sauce less now as his need for female adoration is being met. On the down side, Kathleen came as a package deal and dealing with nearly-grown step-children has been ‘challenging’ for him. Kathleen has obviously bought into his BS that she is some kind of Prophetess and most likely ‘insisted’ that she be allowed to prophesy. Even in his deluded state, he knows he simply cannot allow her to get up and start running off at the mouth with ‘prophecies’. Doyle himself has had nothing but trouble when trying that. So we get the Wigglesworth readings by which he allows her to have the feeling that she is producing something profound and deeply spiritual. Terre Brown, ever willing to humiliate herself for the Apostle, was forced to produce ‘testimonies’ describing the mental problems her Mother had or has. The Wollers failed to notice the rather obvious fact that Terre’s Mother IMPROVED after she left WOL. The jet trips to the few remaining Motel Churches have resulted in a collective YAWN in their area and have been a waste of the limited monetary resources Doyle is still able to extort from his inner circle. The “Internet Ministry” is a joke, as Forum point out on a daily basis. Now the rigidly controlled walking/hopping/dancing has undergone a change as Doyle desperately tries to find something, ANYTHING, to regain a piece of his former “Glory”. What’s next? Only Doyle’s fertile mind knows. But each step is crazier that the step preceding it.
Sorry I have been so busy lately. I,m still here 40 or so hours a week but have not felt really expresive and have been working really hard.Alot of the time you folks say what I was gonna say before I can get it typed up :+)
Thought I would comment on the”Holiday Inn Crusade of 2010″ dilligan has announced on his site.Words,Big words is all that he has left.He couldnt make it thru a 3 city “crusade” I think thats bout all the motel hells his robots still meet in now,, he cant see,he falls down,he’s falling apart like an old jalopy on a bumpy road and talking a crusade??Thanx for the laugh dingus.
Alan Havlick
We’ve been wondering where you’ve been! Nice to see you again!
DAWNNNNNN OF THE DEADDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL WHAT A JOKE MONDAY NIGHT CRAZEDBALL AT DOYLE FIELD
Masterfull display of mind control doyle! reminded me of one of those zombie movies!!!!
Bob: how in the world did you manage to sneak a tape recorder into Walk of Lemmings?
Too funny-
cp
I don’t think we at MOL should be left behind in this crowd noise fad. Therefore I suggest that this video be played at all MOL events:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-ZUtDv8J_w
When Kathy Mai began speaking in tongues Sunday I was amazed to find that I understood everything she said. Unfortunately Doyle’s interpretation was incorrect. Here is the translation, word for word:
“Remodeling your homes? Look to Gawd for the latest bargains at Home Depot and Lowes. If shopping on The Internet, type in the code “GAWD” in the Promotion Code box before submitting your order to receive a percentage discount. The amount of the discount will vary based on your belief in Doyle’s doctrine. True believers could receive 40% off, wicked unbelievers will be charged double.”
And Bob wins the “I made Meg choke on her coffee while laughing” prize today. Attaboy. Ap7NW
I haven’t watched the WOL show in a long time but watched a bit of Sunday a.m & p.m, and little of the Broken Arrow video. They have reached a whole new level of wacky haven’t they.They SURE have! I was curious is Broken Arrow would be doing the same human pinball imitation as Plano & they were. It’s a lot less impressive with only 5 people. Just a couple of observations -
There was a whole lot of binding going on in Plano – but apparently you can’t bind stupid.stupid is as stupid does- Forrest Gump
I can’t decide if the new “go anywhere” portion of the service looks more like zombie night at the mall, or an Easter Egg hunt gone bad.Perhaps a combo of both.
Is Doyle really back on television? Please say it ain’t so.Not that I have seen nor heard of, just a figment of his dementia
Taking KS out of the teaching profession was in the best interest of the children she taught. Listening to her read outloud would take any desire to read right out of them.
Bob the Baptist should wear the title with pride. He needs a flag and some bumperstickers… “Proud to be Baptist”!
Aren’t all you escapees glad you’re out of there? Doyle is a disgrace.
THAT Dear Mary, is an UNDERSTATEMENT! Oh yes, I’m so glad!
What would’ve been really cool is, when Drool said, “you’re welcome to walk anywhere”, if half of ‘em had risen and taken their happy selves out the front door and not come back….
LOL
cp
Drool announced (Sunday) Kathie D. is gonna read more Wigglesworth. (Sounds like story circle at a preschool). Love that she talked about Wigglesworth delivering someone of drink – wonder if she’s tried that at home with her old man….okay. I’m gonna risk offending at least one woman on the forum, Kathie’s shoes look cheap to me. I really don’t like ankle straps on high heels. I’m of the opinion if you gotta tie ‘em on to your legs then maybe you’re doin’ stuff in ‘em that you ought take those particular shoes off for…sorry. Don’t throw high heels at me…
Meg! How DARE you!
ROFL!!!
cp
Um? I have some good news? The photo on Doyle’s stage is finally on the right season! I mean it matches what’s outside. In some places. But maybe not where he is. Whatever.
Hey Tiffani:
I looked at the stage- hm, I didn’t see any flames or a lake of fire.
Are you sure looking you’re at the right stage?
Um, the autumn picture on the screen?
Dull actually thinks that any of the former WOLer’s are coming back? THAT’S THE FUNNIEST THING I HAVE HEARD IN AWHILE!!!!! What a hoot! aaaahhh hahahhahhahahah!!!!!!!!!!! Money must be really tight.
Rachel: (Cheryl here): SURE! I’ll come back! Just as soon as Doyle repents before the whole world: admits his adultery with Waff2, admits he lured Waff3 from her 25 yr marriage, as soon as all his “prophecies” come true, as soon as he PUBLICLY repents of ALL the death threats he has pronounced upon people, as soon as he admits that medicine is NOT witchcraft, as soon as he raises the dead, as soon as he admits the Torah (the Law of Moses) is not something that needs to be cast out of people like a demon, as soon as he checks himself into a mental health facility, and grows new teeth, and conceives a child named John who prophesies to the whole world, as soon as he admits he lied when he said “god” gave him the authority to “rip apart marriages” and as soon as he repents of calling LisaS a “SL&T, WH%RE” etc….
YEP- I’ll be dressed in my Sunday best.
But the question is: which Sunday will that be?
I’m not holding my breath.
Cp
Hoo Boy!
If you don’t watch this stuff for awhile, it looks even more pathetic and there’s an ick factor–I feel as if I have been spying on an insane asylum.
Cheryl, the lemmings at the beginning of the randomness ordained by Doyle early in the Sunday 1 broadcast look as if they are in search of the edge and don’t know where to find it.
If they became totally free-range, as per Meg, I think it could become somewhat entertaining. How many collisions would there be? How many points for a near miss?
I would be even more embarrassed trying to do whatever he is prompting them to do than I would have been walking in a circle.
What Will it take for some of them to wake up? Doyle has run out of anything to say and has resorted to stage managing. I have a feeling that Gawd is totally unimpressed.
NJ: there’s an OLD movie about a young man thrown into a Turkish prison. For “extra” punishment, the men are sent to the “sanitorioum”- where the REAL CRAZIES walk around mumbling, in a circle, ALL GOING the same direction. One man tries walking in the opposite direction, and the mob gets angry against him.
Sun Night: Kathy Mai is “YELLING” again- this time she gives a “tongue”… and Paw Paw “interprets” it, blah, blah, blah.
This is the absolute BIGGEST NONSENSE I have ever heard and seen!!!!!!!!!
CANT THE WOLLERS READ? It’s simple: I Corinthians 14:23>>>>> if an unlearned person or an unbeliever comes in, they will think they are “mad”-
This word “mad” in Greek means:
to be furious, raving mad”
Yup, that just about sums up the madhouse of WOL.
I was once part of the madness- and I thank GOD for His mercy, that He delivered me from that place, and I have repented of ever taking part in the madness-
Cheryl (edited for typos)
Sunday AM #2:
Again the WolNut Lemmings are instructed to “walk all over the place, including the fellowship hall”…. apparently this is a necessary step for them to do this, because, according to Doyle, “My gawd, yew people are bound up! Yer gunna get free”.
So, folks, we have learned, to get “free” (of what, I ask?)
One must walk around aimlessly in a church building yelling “prayze gawd” “hallalooyeh”, etc. and ALSP in tongues.
There must also be some kind of “special anointing” (LOL) about walking with the right hand in a fist, shaking it, and pointing to the ground- that must be a WOL-NUT secret handshake, or special thing.
Seems I remember the Apostle Paul writing that if on comes in, that is a visitor, and hears them doing all this, the person will think they are nuts.
OK- that’s NOT Scripture- but my paraphrase.
PS: it also appears, down at the bottom of the screen, Doyle is “preying” for the Missus, as it appears she’s hacking up for Jez-balls.
If a visitor walked into WOL Sunday morning, and saw all these looks walking around aimlessly like ZOMBIES to get “free”- they’d turn and run—–
Hmmmm- I just realized—- that is a GOOD THING!
Maybe WOL stands for “With Out Lithium”….
Aben?
CP
David,
Our church is that way, too. In the Church of Christ, the minister preaches and ministers to the people, as he has been called by God to do. The Church business is handled by the Elders and Deacons (all male) and there are no decisions made without those 2 bodies of Church “government”. The minister does not control money and does not make any decisions on behalf of the Church…that is done through prayer and consensus of the Elders/Deacons. I believe this way works best.
Whoever mentioned “nepotism” in the religious ranks were right on. Besides Swag, we have the Copeland family, bunch of them, using the Copeland name to promote their ministry. Who else, O yes, Marilyn has daughter, Sara, building her ministry. Let them go out and do their own thing. Sorry about “John”, Doyle, it will never happen. The Davidson name is doomed to oblivion.
There are some I will watch on TV that stay in the Word and do not promote, or should I say, market themselves to build riches. Doyle doesn’t “market”, he demands the money be given to him. This is why I attend a church where the minister doesn’t control everything. Deacons and Elders were part of the NT church.
HEE HEE!
What is interesting is that not many seem to want to be “in the middle” with Doyle- they are sticking to the lines.
You hear him saying “YOU DON’T have to wall in a straight line!”
(Doyle should know quite a bit about not walking a straight line).
CP
OK, so Doyle and “Kathie D” went out to dinner per DD’s request- and they had dinner with Ralph and Debbie Edge.
The Edge’s went…. Doyle said that the “apostles left because they didn’t believe my words, that I was of God”….
He mentioned Jack T. But stopped mid-sentence. Curious to see if he elaborates on Jack T.
He tells the WOLLERS that they (the WOLLERS) are going to have to “pray ‘em (apostles) back”- to WOL. In other words, the WOL-Nuts are responsible for getting the “escaped apostles” back to WOL. Including “Baptist Bob Buckner”… Doyle said from now on, that is what he will be calling Bob Buckner- “Baptist Bob”.
He then instructs the WOL_NUTS that they are to walk all over the sanctuary, and reminds them they are “on TV”. (Where are they on TV?)
In the background, Kathie Small asks him if it’s permissable to “pray in tougues”- he tells her yes.
Doyle’s having a hard time, getting the WOLemmings to get out of their “lines” and keeps telling them they can “walk anywhere”.
Hmmmm- kinda hard to undo the brainwashing, once he’s gotten them TRAINED just the way he wants them.
This is Sunday # 1.
CP
See? SEE? Drool only wants all of you exWOLlers back now that he knows about the party! HA! You’re not invited, Doyle! So there. No goodies for you, no drinkies for you, no WIMMEN for YOU! Small White might pack up some of his best efforts and send ‘em to you if you don’t knock off your stinky behavior. Now I’m going to have to watch his stupid show, just for the joyful potential of ‘em all slamming into each other. So does this mean random dancing as well? Oh, this could be like an Arthur Murray class on drugs – Normal might even commence watching again – just for the entertainment value. BTW, I think our Rev has wandered off again…he reminds me of that old line – “Where are my people? I must find and catch up to them, so I can lead them…” ….AP7NW
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“Arther Murray class on drugs”>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Omg- Meg- you are too funny!!!!! hahahhahaha
thank you for your kind words, guys.
I just think we need to put these “let’s talk” messages into perspective when we listen to them.
When people talk, it is usually a two way conversation, but we were discouraged from this at WOL. We got to hear about THEIR hard times and persecution and “overcomings” but they never wanted to hear about our “unbelief”. When things happened to us, we were “asking for it”. When things happened to “them”, it was because they were walking in righteousness and the affliction was because they were “suffering for Jesus”. The hoarse voices and driving for hours to pray were like badges of honor.
I was thinking about this recently as I drove once again to Tyler. I spend that quiet time alone, praying, but it’s not something to brag about or feel proud of. We are told to pray in our “closet”, not in public and the market to be seen of man!
If the Mai girls prayed a few minutes, in faith, in their rooms or classes, how much more effective would that be than reluctantly, when they were commanded to do so for hours, to please their parents?
At the last game I went to my son ran on the field to the other end, knelt down and bowed his head for a few seconds. The rest of the team followed. Yes, this was a public display, but no one forced him to do it. I never suggested this to him. He slept through most of the years at WOL. He is not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, just the gospel of Doyle.
I asked him if he is coming to the party, he said he would have a few drinks and think about it. It is not easy for them to relive those years. Vince, I can just see you and him hanging around the punch bowl…and Meg won’t be there to drive you all home!
Oh, and we made the playoffs!!! It’s been worth all the gas and trips back and forth. Do you all remember that little clip I posted at the end of last season? He “prophesied” that they would make the plays offs and “one more”…the “one more” will take place next Saturday.
Those comments about the Swaggerts reminds me of that article I posted recently about nepotism in the church. Those kids are “commanded” and groomed until they become what “god ordained them” to become from the “fundations of the world”. Thet are coddled, flattered, spoiled and puffed up until they actually believe they are Joel Osteen himself. God forbid they would want to do anything else “lower” than that.
Yes, the scripture states that those who obey God will have children who are great in the earth. WOL’s definition of great is a five letter word: D-O-Y-L-E.
Wow, Isabel- GREAT post! (oops, there goes my flattering divination spirit again)
Cheryl
If you know the Swaggart story, he was good at attacking others who failed ie Jim Bakker and another noted preacher in New Orleans with something that happened 7 years prior. The preacher’s son was an undercover cop who was the one who caught Jimmy at the hotel, let the air out of his tires, Jimmy was trying to fix it and guess who walked up. The son! Be sure your sins will find you out. Attacking other ministers is right up Doyle’s alley.
I have zero confidence in the Swaggart clan. Donnie, the son, has learned to cry just like Jimmy and all the other head movements. Just hope the grandson hasn’t learned these things but I would bet he has. My, how the mighty have fallen…including Doyle.
thanks, David, several of us EX_wollers have any confidence in “tv preachers”. I know I don’t.
I have only seen a few that I believe have integrity, honesty, and speak the TRUTH! cp
yeah vincent i saw that program,, jimmy went on and on about how the lord told him to periodically offer the bibles for sale, we have lower grade models and all the way up to the leather bound ones,, jimmys wife was right there pushing it on, then they say it costs em 50 bucks per bible so just get one of those. they have built this little empire,, jimmy gets up there and plays piano, he really is quite good and has talent, then he cries a bit, and people just eat it up. it really is astounding. they need to keep their lifestyle up and pay bills and stuff, eat nice food etc,, i remember back when the scandal of jimmys hooker ways came about, it was publicized that jimmys wife had a desk in her office at the ministry that weighed about several thousand pounds and was made of some expensive wood,, several thousand dollars worth of desk. amazing.
Hmmm. Well, if MOL wants to go down that fundraising road, let’s consider what all we can contribute. I can do sewing, baking, quilts, stained glass and jam. Small White can make stinks in his litter box, AND he can curl up in laps and lower blood pressure. Next? Ap7NW
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AWWWWW- Poor Jimmy! And Frances! Pitiful creatures! Having to hawk “the Holeeh Biy-bil” on TV to keep Jimmy Boy stocked up on pirn magazines and more H**kers in the “No Tell Motels”- such a shame- (sniff) brings a tear to my eye…..
CP
Just stopped by to say hi! I was watching Jimmy Swaggert this morning because I was a littel hung over from the Halloween party the wife and I attended. So to punish myself I watched another “false” profit prophet whatever,,, anyway he and his Rolex wearing son(Submariner gold and silver about 12k new) and his grandson whos way to hip to be a preacher were selling Bibles!!!! woohoo I can get the “big” bad boy version all leather wrapped for $150.00. I bought 5 of them so I can get to heaven,,, or doyle status,,, I’m sending one of the bibles to doyle and kathy since they can all read! sorry for the spelling caps etc. Im still foggy!
Vincent, Vincent, Vincent. I’m so disappointed in you. It appears you did NOT think to buy them the large print edition for children K through Grade 3. When are you gonna learn!
AP7NW PS – I only got blasted twice in my life – once by accident – I came from a teetotaling family and had 2 glassees of wine with dinner, after which I was found under the table in my evening dress rocking a rather large cat whilst singing lullabies to said tabby; the second time involved alcohol and pizza. THAT encounter with alcohol resulted in pink rabbits racing round my room on the furniture, and the astonishing noise a 10 pound cat can make landing on a down comforter the morning after…after that, I quit, figuring it was more interesting to watch others cope with drinking… and drive ‘em home after. AP7NW.
james – if you want to see really fearful facial expresions, check out the videos that show Terre Brown’s youngest boy Daniel playing the guitar a few years ago. That little boy appeared to be scared to death when at WOL.
Yes, Meg, I’m pretty faint proof myself. How bad could it have been for the young and popular Ms. Davidson? Running with the in crowd, nice outfits and cars, no siblings to compete with and parents who spoiled her rotten. Now that comment is really an example of how WOL considers themselves so oppressed and persecuted.
So, a couple of guys came against her daddy?? At least she HAD a daddy! Mine was fighting in Vietnam!
THAT is why WOL has lost all credibility. The grandiose statements and exaggerations, the condescending “poor me” victimizations…enough already with the drama!
When I was a teen, I came to this country and hated it! I came from Europe to Oklahoma! I spoke differently, dressed differently, and the sorority girls treated me like I was a green alian from a foreign planet. I did not know you were Italian! ROFL Meg I did not understand what racism was, and Oklahoma was a wicked, hick place from hell as far as I was concerned.
I said the word MY instead of MAH, and “Missouri” instead of “Missourah”. I was viewed as a n***er lover and was once attacked on campus in broad daylight for talking to someone who had a different skin color than my own. The attacker worked in the cafeteria, but nothing was ever done by anyone, including the dean who witnessed the attack. My friend and I were hit by a bicycle chain. He ran off and I stayed and fought.
You want horror stories, Ms. Mai?
My family rejected me. I became self destructive, and loathed myself. My parents did not help me develope a healthy self esteem, quite the opposite. They did the best they knew how, and took me to a priest who told me I was going to hell. They took me to a shirk on post because I didn’t “fit in”.
So, no , Ms. Mai. I can’t relate to your horror stories. Terry never hit you and he and daddy provided for you financially the past few decades. You don’t know what it’s like not to know how you are going to pay the electric bill and feed your kids or come up with gas money to go to work. Believing God isn’t quite the challenge for you as it has been for some of us.
I’m not impressed.
However, MOL is impressed with what YOU’ve done with your life, Izzy, and the fact that you haven’t lost your love of God in the process. (Ain’t it grand to be loved by wicked puffed up folks? AP7NW)
Cherylp
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Well, Isabel: get ready for some “wicked flattering divination”- here it comes!
Not only am I proud of you, I ADMIRE YOU!
CP,
I agree with you and James in K. relating to your comments about Doyle. I’m sorry but when people think and say that they have more of God than someone else, well, I just look at their actions ie Doyle, Tilton and other fallen so-called preachers.
BTW, my Cowboys won today and it was the power of god working in my life. Trivial, you bet it is and Kathy Mai, you sound stupid when you say some of this stuff. I must listen to the latest “Let’s Talk”….I need a good laugh…but it sounds like it would make one cry….for those girls.
thank you David, for your kind words- CP
I take that dog obedience school idea back, most dogs, unlike the blue chairs, are too intelligent to do everything that crazy Doyle would tell them to do.
Watching Sunday morning shows, with the new “walk in any direction” schtick, it dawned on me that Doyle missed his true calling. Instead of running a vet clinic or a church, he should have opened a dog obedience school.
Walk in any direction? You mean the WOLlers are free-range now? Golly. I need to watch that, I guess. Boy, I’m glad you threw yourself on the sword today bud! Thank you. Your ex-sister, Meg
WOW! “Free-range” wollers? I wonder if this will affect their egg production now! hee hee!
all you have to do is look at some old clips of the expression on candace mai’s face when she was playing the piano. hard to describe it exacty, trauma, fear, anger, lots of different descriptions, but not one of them i have seen displays anything that suggests that she was comfortable and enjoying what she was doing.
just who could be comfortable at the wol-nut shack? only the grand dragon himself- that’s why I love our Constitution: it states that we have not only freedon OF religion, but freedom FROM religion!
Aben?
Meg – Oops, that should have read, did not only terrorize their girls….
Meg – Terry and Kathy Mai did only terrorize their girls like that on trips to Missouri. I remember once she told us how Terry would have them all jump in the car to ride around Plano while he shouted “prayers” in the car and out the window.
Where the “Hey kids, let’s go for a ride” from normal parents usually means a trip to the movies or a carnival or some other special treat, these poor little Mai girls probably cringed when they heard those words.
And just so no one gets any stupid ideas, that was emphatically NOT a call for violence to be done to him. God will judge Doyle Davidson, although I personally doubt that he will be judged in the way he thinks he’ll be judged.
It is a truism that mental disorders tend to repeat in families and Kathy Mai’s recent “Let’s Talk” is a window into the interior workings of a very dysfunctional family. Doyle isolated himself and his daughter ‘noticed the changes’ in him. Candace isolated herself and ‘changed’. The kids were plunked into extended car rides/brainwashing sessions from which there was no escape and no appeal. The key here is ISOLATION combined with an immersive experience involving very twisted beliefs. Eventually the kids just stop ‘resisting’ (Rachel) and go with the flow that they are powerless to resist anyway. Their loving parents threat to render her homeless if she didn’t toe the WOL line is very instructive. Obviously parents can and should establish rules for behavior for their adolescent children, but this quite simply crosses the line. This is LOVE? No. This is abuse. Doyle’s own mental dysfunction has rippled through the generations in his family. The damage wreaked on Mai girls has been repeated in WOL familes in the congregation throughtout the years. You may recall Rose’s own poignant story of how the relationship with their daughter was compromised by their insistence that she toe the WOL line. We are all thankful every time this cycle of emotional violence is broken. The Mai girls are damaged goods. Many, if not most, of the other young people at WOL are damaged as well. Doyle is a mental cripple and he emotionally, mentally and intellectually cripples everyone who allows themselves to be influenced by him. WOL is a VERY destructive CULT and the damage Doyle has promulgated will ripple through lives long after he is dead and gone. Only with his death can the healing start.
after considering what you have said cp, and looking back at all of it, i agree. the true spirit of god never ministered through d’oil. the spirit of god was and is separate from him. if it were not so, d’oil would not carefully avoid a lot of simple truth about his life in this world. he would not have kept his “marriage” to lisa hidden for so long with the pitiful excuse that “well, the baptists would have been upset”. the spirit of god is known as the spirit of truth. that is why i have concluded that the spirit of god never was with d’oil. d’oil would not have to manipulate people if the spirit of god were with him. i had never thought of all that really before, or arranged my thinking about it until now. you are right. if any disagree that is fine. but i have settled this for myself. and it is not for me to just explain it away, so i will feel better, it just makes complete sense. i also recall emailing anthony reece a long time ago and talking about how the spirit of god is called the spirit of truth, and pointing out the error and lies. that is how my thinking has evolved over all of it.
Thanks, James. I sort of expect some people to disagree with me, and as I said, if they want to- IT IS FINE!!! No, I won’t call down fire from heaven on them! LOL!
We all can just agree to disagree- but I thank you for what you wrote- it was encouraging.
blessings and shalom
CP
Kathy has a new “Let’s Talk” issued 10/30. How interesting. We get more information on the dysfunction this woman has lived under all her life. She begins by recounting again, that Terry would bundle the family up, put them in the car and they would drive for hours and pray. I don’t know why, but this brings to mind one of those movies where sane folks are being held by a madman. Can you imagine those poor little girls? Locked for hours in a car with Kathy and Terry shouting and praying? How absolutely terrifying for little children. This is just sick, sick, sick. Kathy goes further back to discussing her early years at home with paw-paw. She begins by saying “When I was living with Dad in Argyle, I saw things that would make most of you faint”. Notice there’s NO mention of Patti. Second, I want details. ‘cause I’m pretty faint-proof. She notes that Doyle had a little office away from the house, where he would sit and read the bible and pray, all night long. She began to see changes as a result of Doyle’s obedience and praying. She describes a somewhat lengthy period of physical and emotional isolation in her late teens. She discusses that the girls were bred and raised to be “serving” with she and Terry in ministry. She states “dad obeyed God, so I had to obey God. Terry obeyed God ‘cause dad had his foot in his rear-end sometimes”. (Doncha know that’s how Jesus likes folks to come to him? NOT!) The kids at 3-4 years “played” church. She talks about how the girls friends used to come over and ask for a Tylenol, or Advil. The girls would say, no, but my dad’ll pray for you, and the friends would say, “no, no. We’re fine. We’re feelin’ better already”. The sad thing is, she thinks this is showing the power of prayer. She doesn’t get that her kids friends thought they were freaky. She recounts at length about how prayer impacted their lives. And in the end of 5th, going into 6th grade, Candace believed it was right for her to be in band. She had a condition with her tooth – “it was a curse”. (Geez, couldn’t it just be a dental problem? Does everything have to be larger than life for these folks?) Long story short, band teacher thought “with that mouth” she should play clarinet, she wanted flute, they went with the flute and when they returned in the fall, ready for her to join the 6th grade band, that teacher had been fired (praise Gawd, Aben) and there was a new female flute teacher, another miracle! “I want to encourage you kids – you are never too young to pray – you better be prayin’…we are raised in this church….Our children should be praying….I saw God take Candace and separate her… people sitting here said, I thank God your dad and your paw-paw are not mine. Well, you know what? I thank God they are. Because of those two men, and because of what they taught those three girls, those girls have stood with me in days when no one stood. I know I can count on their faith.” She was not afraid to go to Israel with the girls, ‘cause she had three warriors with her. Izzy was so brave going to France by herownself. She talks about how she and Terry would force the girls into the car and take them away – praying or worshipping from Texas to Joplin. Every Sunday for five hours. And the girls would resist praising and worshipping. In the 8th or 9th grade, Candace would sit in her room and read the Psalms for hours. When the kids were rebellious, Terry would say “let’s worship God.” (Oh great, God as punishment)…Ashley was more resistant submitting herself. Kathy notes that most people wouldn’t even have thought there was a problem. They threatened her with eviction and she caved. Nice. Really nice. Every one of her children have had rebellion. Rachel was bad too. About five years ago, the war hit, and “we saw those kids stand up and fight in prayer”. (What war? Am I missing something?) “When people start prophesying that you’re gonna die you start standing up and fighting back.” Sorry at this point, my brain fuzzed up and I lost interest. Well. There you have it. More “useful” information and showing of the Maifamily underwear.
i am looking at some conclusions that i haven’t settled into yet, but i am almost there, about 97%, and that conclusion is that it is not just d’oil in serious heretical error, it is also those who are there with him. they are the same. they are not hapless victims of a megalomaniac. they have had plenty of time to see the glaring inconsistencies of all that the d’oil has said. now, i also wonder if d’oil is NOT unlike someone who keeps coming up for parole every year and the parole board continues to see NO remorse or responsibility for anything. d’oil continues to say that “god told him to do this and he has obeyed god all these years”, and everyone else is wwrong, as if he is infinite and omnipotent. i wonder if it would make any difference if , one day, d’oil stood up and said ” i would like to tell the world that i missed god and i failed in my relationship with patty, and i should not have thought god gave me lisa staton, and what i have done is wrong. i have said so many things that were simply wrong and i have had to deal with my selfishness, pride, ego, and humanity, just like all of you have had to deal with it. i would ask that you forgive me. i would ask that you, lord would wash me with your precious blood>,, ala jimmy swaggert.. but i dont see that happening. i wonder if that happened would i stop checking in to water of life to see what is going on. when it is all said and done, after looking at everything backwards and forwards, d’oil is facing the failure of not being good enough to be involved in his sisters ministry with the derek prince bunch. it is the legitemacy he will never attain, and he knows it. that is what is driving him to never admit any missteps. in his case, not missteps but huge leaps and bounds that are in error. when he said one day ” i am going to have the women dance around here just to make you men mad”, that should have been a signal to someone there, but it wasnt. they deserve it. they deserve what they get. hey, you know, robert tilton is still on satelitte everyday with his new blond wife half his age, telling people to to make a vow to god and send it in and god will bless you etc. these people just keep rolling along. but they will die one day. and so will i.
Thanks J in K, I believe you’re right. God has given them over to a reprobate mind. All that’s left is the “when” – WHEN will WOL cease to exist? The “why/if” has been removed. The Holy Spirit has long gone from that Cult Shack. As a former trapped bird that escaped, I too look BACK, and my OWN personal viewpoint- and I know others here will DIS-agree with me, (that’s OK to disagree with me)…. I don’t believe the Holy Spirit EVER ministered through Doyle.
Other here will take exception to that, and PLEASE know, Forum, IF YOU DISAGREE- unlike the Cult Shack, we can disagree on this and other topics. But this is how I truly believe and how I truly feel….
SOMEONE close to me, told me a while back that they had decided to be “true” to what they believed and TRUE to their own feelings and their own self. So I’m following their words, because I believe it’s profitable. This person may disagree with my concerning Doyle and the Holy Spirit, but…… to be TRUE TO MY BELIEFS, I choose to believe the Holy Spirit NEVER operated through Doyle Davidson———— CP
I wonder if Doyle believed this last sentence when he read the Psalms out loud?
Psalm 3:7 Arise, O LORD; save me, O my God! For You have smitten all my enemies on the cheek; You have shattered the teeth of the wicked.
Excellent and sharp observance, Issy!> cp
CP, I just tried the link on my site and it worked much better.
I also found something interesting about preachers who use foul language…
God is exposing these wicked people and I am finding so many confirmations of this on other websites…He is bringing these wicked deeds to the light. There are many other groups out there similar to that little den of iniquity in Plano.
We have lots to celebrate for, so don’t forget to RSVP
this one is hilarious! Notice the reverse psychology tactics…he even does a little dance spin a la WOL.
If he weren’t black, you’d think he was Doyle! They use the same twisted verses…
http://battle4truth.wordpress.com/2009/10/31/prosperity-gospel-exposed/
CP, it did the same to me the first time, but by then I was already hooked, so I reconnected and it worked better. I also have the link on my site.
I just found another interesting article about cults from Lumbley’
s site…
I watched the “F-bomb” Racist WOL hour.
Ya know, the “F-bomb” wasn’t half as “shocking” as watching Doilet literally “flying” across the room, as he’s spewing his racial vomit out to the WOLLERS.
The INTENSE feelings of anger, with his fists clenched, during the racist/f-ing rant are more disturbing than his actual words.
He needs a mental hospital – no doubt about it.
One deluded, sick, sick, pathetic old man- who is starting to sound more and MORE like Fred Phelps every day.
CP
You mean he was at it again Saturday? Or when? What day? Which episode? Inquiring minds have nothing else to do but ask! ROFL. AP7NW
no, I was watching a re-run of the DD Filthy Mouth Hour……. cp
This is an awesome video! it nails WOL and others like them who preach a false gospel. I listened to K.Mai’s two newest messages and like her Small,Brown friends, most of her stories are from decades ago. We ALL have those we can tell.
The current ones are all about the money, the limos, the granite counter tops… Like this man says, go to the E.R room and show us your faith~~~ this one is worth watching till the end! He quotes the same scriptures I wrote about to the WOL kids.
It really blessed me to know that there are others out there who find this twisted materialistic gospel an abomination!
http://battle4truth.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/the-prosperity-gospel-an-abomination/
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Issy: I wanted to listen to it, but maybe I need a better conection- the video kept stalling and hanging up
I’ll try again——cp
well i checked a bit of the kathy small monologue, i go back and forth between pity and disgust,, so she gave a lesson about how the translators of the new testament put the word “might” in the bible and it shouldnt be there, it is not in god’s word. i am so glad she has eliminated that one from my memory. we are all waiting with baited breath as to her next correction of the king james version. she is really having a great time telling her story about her sign work. she is really on the top of her game here folks. she loves this kind of attention. she loves this. she is eating it up.i think about her children and her, and i just dont know what to think. i used to sit behind her and her husband and her kids a few times, heard them make small talk (no pun intend) and i remember thinking ” here is a large family that is very prosperous and seems to be content with what they are doing. me , being a single father, was pretty observant of this kind of thing you see. but, i suppose looks are deceiving. so, anyway she tells about her holding on to one verse of prosperity in the middle of her problems,, and god used d’oil to just do it all for her. i just cannot believe someone is so pinheaded to think that god would just take her out, give her to some old man and let all the money problems go. frankly i have thought of this many times, and i must deal with it, as it is just a recurring thought. i have oftentimes considered going down to plano and, just as billy bob thornton went to robert duvalls’ church and called him out into the yard in the movie “the apostle”, and give him a real decent country ass whipping. by the way , has anyone ever thought to tell water of life that , the link to “terry mai” does not work and that the man IS DEAD?
The Terry debacle always reminds me of MP and the Holy Grail:
The Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead.
[a man puts a body on the cart]
Large Man with Dead Body: Here’s one.
The Dead Collector: That’ll be ninepence.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn’t: I’m not dead.
The Dead Collector: What?
Large Man with Dead Body: Nothing. There’s your ninepence.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn’t: I’m not dead.
The Dead Collector: ‘Ere, he says he’s not dead.
Large Man with Dead Body: Yes he is.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn’t: I’m not.
The Dead Collector: He isn’t.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, he will be soon, he’s very ill.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn’t: I’m getting better.
Large Man with Dead Body: No you’re not, you’ll be stone dead in a moment.
The Dead Collector: Well, I can’t take him like that. It’s against regulations.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn’t: I don’t want to go on the cart.
Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, don’t be such a baby.
The Dead Collector: I can’t take him.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn’t: I feel fine.
Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, do me a favor.
The Dead Collector: I can’t.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won’t be long.
The Dead Collector: I promised I’d be at the Robinsons’. They’ve lost nine today.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, when’s your next round?
The Dead Collector: Thursday.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn’t: I think I’ll go for a walk.
Large Man with Dead Body: You’re not fooling anyone, you know. Isn’t there anything you could do?
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn’t: I feel happy. I feel happy.
[the Dead Collector glances up and down the street furtively, then silences the Body with his a whack of his club]
Large Man with Dead Body: Ah, thank you very much.
The Dead Collector: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
Large Man with Dead Body: Right.
AP7NW
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My PERSONAL feeling is that Drool has so much unresolved conflict/guilt, about Terry Mai’s death, he’s trying t keep him “alive” via the old telecasts, Mai’s worship songs, etc. While it’s fine to sing along with dead people, there is a fine line in the grieving process, to let the “dead go”….. and move on. Drool and the others don’t seem to be able to do this.
Nadia, don’t forgot that the fervent prayer of a righteous cult avails much, and when we add the words “to and of God and Jesus”, you can bet your McDuffy you’ll be there.
Izzy – I’m rolling. My new phrase now is, “You can bet your McDuffy”! Absolutely priceless…Meg
Thanks Meg and Isabel.
According to my situation as far as the party goes, you all will have to do a whole lot of marching and dancing and tambourining and blessing me and going round and round in circles around my house to work up enough faith to get me there. And with the record of your faith in theses tried and proven tactics to get gawd to do something, I am not counting on it.
There’s still time though. And a lot of overcoming is needed to secure the finances needed for me to overcome the spirit in the mall and get the the appropriate costume that gawd wants me to have for the party. You people have not learned anything all this time! You don’t just get any costume, you get the green one or red one or white one that gawd wants you to have.
My relatives and immediate family are resisting my plans to come so I need to buy a new tambourine that is louder than the one I hid in the dark closet. I need to dance harder so they can stop resisting my coming and get out of the way. Gawd ordained that I attend this party from the foundation of the world and if my children have to be loaned out to the neighbors, you cannot stop gawd. My sister Jazela has refused to watch them so I believe it is the mind of the spirit that I pop enough popcorn for them to eat while I am gone.
Nadia, don’t discount the powers of our own leader. I’m sure, were he so inclined to promote the fraternization of MOLlers, he could arrange for Raheem to have a contingent of nanny goats riding herd (yes, that pun was intended) on your wicked, wicked offspring. We deduce (being smarter than many bears) that your immediate family are not your relatives, which leaves us with questions which we’ll want answered at the party. As for a new tambourine, I recommend the Italian model or “green tambourine” made famous in that song of yesteryear. As to the color costume, MOl members are too wicked to wear white; only the Italians of MOL are permitted green (I think – the Rev will have to clarify that) so we’re pretty much left with demon red. Oh Reverend, it’s time to come and play on the forum. There are many issues raised here today for you and Raheem to address, rather than teaching more about WOL. (Please, give us a day off from the pain, huh?) By the way, re: sitters? I suppose if nothing else works out, you could call in to CPS anonymously, complain about yourself, and get your kids removed pending investigation. Okay, okay. It’s not a foolproof plan, but hey -f ree child care for a while, eh? You could try and get the Jezebel out of ‘em, and then when CPS tries to run you in on charges, point out Drool’s group and say if it’s legal for him, it’s legal for you!AP7NW
Oh my gosh. A party? Tell me again why there’s gonna be a party? I LOVE parties.
Tiffani: We will make SURE you get an invite!
Come with bells, and a bottle of champagne-
MOL is a rather classy cult- so Dom Perignon is preferred- thanks!
CP
Gosh! Thanks. Um, I don’t know Don Perignon, is he one of those Green Italian guys? Um, what kind of bells do you want me to bring? And why? Oh my gosh! You guys are a CULT? That is so like – um no – wait. A cult? Let me look that up. Back in a sec…um, okay. I guess it’s fine. I was good with all the definitions except number six. So um, like who’s your leader? Raheem? Or that Rev guy? And um, what is it that your cult DOES? I mean, like what are your beliefs? Um, like my dad has some Krug I can bring. Get back to me soon on the bells, though ‘K?
PARTY UPDATE- DEC 19- surprise location
I will be sending out the first batch of e-vites today to the list I have so far. You can RSVP on the e-vite and add comments as well. Let us know how many in your party are coming. There will be no location listed until we find out how many people are coming.
A second reminder e-vite will go out with the location shortly before the big event. If you have any additional addresses, let us know and we will get them one too. If you don’t get an e-vite today, but would like to, let the moderators know!!!
Party-on, Mollers!
My theory about Luann is that she, like all the others, parrot everything Doyle says. Since he has not been very flattering towards Italians lately (due to Jack Small’s heritage), she just said the first thing that came to her brainwashed head. They have mush for brains, and that mush is what they are fed everynight.
Those people are so afraid of ridicule coming from Doyle, that when they are put on the spot, they will try desperately to tell him the answer he is looking for, and it is rarely the right one. He wants everyone to look stupid compared to him. And it works, if you are not on the outside looking in.
Where are the sound minds God gave those people?
After years of being plunked in the blue chairs, I’d say the guys and kids are sitting on ‘em, the women are dancing on ‘em, or have howled ‘em out. AP7NW
I may have been a little too critical of Luann regarding her answer to Doyle’s question on where do green people come from. To be absolutely fair to the young lady, she did not come out with an unequivocal statement, “Green people come from Italy.” Instead, she answered Doyle’s question with her own question, “Italy, right?” So in retrospect, and to be completely fair, somewhere in her thinking process she had some lingering doubt about her first inclination that Italians are green and was looking to Doyle for confirmation. Besides, everyone knows that green people come from southern Ireland. Luann may have been out sick the day they taught that at her school.
And here I thought green people came from the land of ptomaine. Sill me. AP7NW
Vincent, Nadia and AL. We will keep blessing you until you show up to our party. This is a highly effect WOL technique, so book your flights today if you have to.
Don’t make us rent a Limo to come get you!
I wrote to the kids at WOL last night, and I see others here made comments as well. I have been stirred up since I heard Doyle talk to Daniel the other night. Terre B. controls her family the same way Doyle does his congregation. With a mother like Terre and a dad like Doyle, the kid is stuck and bound to “become a prophet” of Doyle’s false foundation, which is based on the riches of this world. I hope those kids have enough integrity and honesty to realize this soon.
Revmd is right…a VETVET (veterinarian and army VETERAN) on welfare??? You’d really have to start using your own animal tranquilizers to get to that stage.
Which reminds me: When my husband and I seperated, I returned back from overseas to take care of my kids. I left a dream job behind, and came home to NO job. I left our house and belongings behind, and all I owned was a car my parents had given me.
I went to Mckinney welfare office to see if I could get some help to feed my 4 kids until I could get us back on our feet. The welfare people asked me if I had a car, and I told the truth, unlike many welfare recipients.
They said I needed to sell my car and feed my kids. I left their office short of telling them what they could do with their Lonestar cards.
I took my car, got a job, bought a house, and two years later, moved us into a nicer neighborhood than the one we left behind.
I did all of this with God’s help, and WITHOUT DOYLE’s MONEY, Kathy Small!
All that to say: WOL is the same way as the welfare system. You give up you savings, your insurance, your retirement, your education…in exchange for a LONESTAR card, called Doyle’s Gospel. You can’t leave or go anywhere else because you have nothing left. You are stuck for life, dependant on that man to feed you, clothe you, think for you.
Doyle hates the government because he acts just like them. He IS the government at WOL, and he would love to take over the world…with “his” gospel!
Izzy – you forget. We don’t have to rent a limo – remember? Raheem was awarded one! Yahoo! In fact, the whole MOL party could start out by loading up and going to Cheddars for appetizers! Meg
Jack T: Great story…well done!
Nobody “goes after him” because he is meaningless, irrelevant and a nobody in the scheme of things.
Those very few who sit and listen have made their own choice. The young people and children are the victims here – in more ways than one, I believe. In this respect I suspect there are good grounds to “go after” the “shepherds” at WOL and uncover some of the evil that lurks in its dark corners.
THURSDAY/FRIDAY COMMENTARY–I’M RUNNING BEHIND: Doyle’s Thursday night rant was a welcome re-emergence of the Old Doyle as he lurched from topic to topic in his well-known incoherent style. He seems troubled regarding inter-racial relationships and marriages (it’s all about the SEX, you know) but condemns other’s racism. It’s an old Doyle technique: say something the Wollers are supposed to accept, then turn around and condemn it. No wonder the Wollers can’t think straight. Doyle can’t follow a thought to its own logical conclusion and he doesn’t want the Wollers to be able to do so either. If they could, they’d see the light and leave. The Story of Ezekial Gutie is a case in point. Doyle was invited to speak before his church in Africa—one time—-briefly. Now Doyle can claim to have led “churches in 55 nations” that are preaching “his Gawspel”. What grandiosity to claim ‘credit’ for another man’s ministry. Doyle continued his anti-black (and that’s what it was) rant Thursday. He denied that he was prejudiced, but his own words condemn him. You will NEVER see someone who IS racist/prejudiced ADMIT that he IS a racist. He’ll loudly proclaim that he, most assuredly, IS NOT a racist. The fearless prophet speaks this way in the safety of all all-white congregation. If he were truly a man of conviction, he’d give that sermon in front of a group of Black Muslims. Their reaction would be interesting to watch. His dropping of the F-Bomb was just another example of his true beliefs and demeanor showing through (I won’t bore you with a dissertation on ‘Freudian slips of the tongue’, but that’s what it was). He proudly said that he never was ‘on welfare’. I should hope not. If a VETERINARIAN qualifies for public aid, the taxpayers would be paying welfare benefits to EVERYBODY (which I sometimes think we already are). It was truly a sad time on Friday night as Kathy Mai took to the podium and gave an extended talk on the process by which her children were beaten into submission to Paw-Paw’s bizarre cult. I won’t take the time to refute it point-by-point. The Mai children were brainwashed from such an early age that it will be very difficult for them to EVER turn their lives around without professional mental health treatment. That certainly won’t happen until they can get out from under their Mother’s and Grandfather’s thumb. Growing up in a Cult family is a mind-bending experience and and Kathy Mai’s sordid tale reinforces an expressed belief on the Forum that the Mai kids (indeed ALL the WOL children) are the truly unfortunate victims in this whole mess in Plano. Doyle may indeed have spoken to “thousands” of people in his visit to Africa, but his own congregation has withered away to virtually nothing as his true beliefs and intentions have become apparent. His story of his sermon to the group in Africa was telling. Obviously I wasn’t there, but let me offer an alternative interpretation of the events. See if this makes sense. His hour-long message was translated by “An African GENERAL” who after he heard Doyle’s babbling and twisted theology, signaled to the event organizers to get a replacement translator up there pronto. The General was replaced, midsermon, by a young man who was forced to take over translating and who, EVEN IN HIS YOUTH, kept asking Doyle if he “really wanted to say that?” The fact that Doyle spoke for a brief time—ONCE—is now interpeted by him that his message was SO POWERFUL that once ‘was all it took’. An alternative explanation was that his “Gawspel” teachings were so bizarre that he was dismissed as a kook and he was politely, but firmly, dismissed and never invited back and I think THAT is a more likely scenario than Doyle’s interpretation. In other news, another vague story was put forth of Wig healing another young woman dying of appendicitis. Wig seems to specialize in treating patients with lower abdoninal pain which bumfuzzles the physicians and which are lumped into a group diagnosis of “appendicitis”–they all seem to have had it. With the passage of time, we’ll never know the real facts of these cases. People will believe what they choose to believe about them. IMHO, many, if not all, of these ‘examples’ were either the occasional spontaneous recovery seen in some cases of true appendicitis or simply misdiagnoses of other conditions. The reader may wish to read about other possibilities such as Mittelschmerz, Polycystic Ovaries/Ovarian tumors, Regional Enteritis, Ileitis, and Dysmenorrhea (Candace’s Syndrome), to name a few.
As usual, you have presented a far more likely scenario, based on what we observe daily. It is possible that Doyle was experiencing breakthroughs of his twisted mentation even back in those days. Re: Wig and the outbreak of pain, how about a touch of group suggestibility/hysteria? Not unheard of. Certainly, Wig’s impact upon his listeners could have been much like Doyle’s, (although for myself, the pain is elicited elsewhere). Much like the end times, we have suspected for some while that events were escalating at WOL, however I truly don’t see that mess going on for another year – at least, certainly not being broadcast for another year. I just can’t imagine the non-WOL customers/neighbors/ of these folks continuing to interact with them; CERTAINLY not after having seen Doyle in action. I mean, let’s think about it, MOLlers. Assume YOU have the lower abominable heebie-jeebies and wind up in the hands of our own resident witch doctor, the Revdrdm. He comes in to visit you pre-op, and starts spewing the crap (sorry, Rosie, but that’s what it is) that Doyle pours forth every night. Are you seriously gonna let the man administer happy gas to you after you’ve been trotted off to the OR? And yet the poor WOLlers continue to submit their lives and their souls WILLINGLY to Drool, every single day of their lives. The mind boggles. Meg
You go into your little WOL cave and think that the whole world will flock to come listen to you since you are so wonderful in your own eyes. You need to take to flight and fly out of that cave and meet people made in God’s image. People that DD has spent so much time teaching you to hate, despise, give no benefit of the doubt, you are too good to mingle with any of these wretched of the world. It is the sick that need a physician, not the well like you. Problem is, when you venture out of the cave, you’ll be surprised at who is sicker than who. It is a frightful day, the day you discover that your religious garbage has made you more base than those unbelievers that you would never dare break bread with. Those wicked unbelievers gathered around a thanksgiving turkey in bizarre unbelieving costumes. These people made in God’s image that I spent years castigating have loved me more in one year than the wollers loved me in 10 years. The cold gatherings to dance and overcome are being replaced with warm people that I would have never approved of. It’s as if I have come back from the dead. I was trained to suspect everyone,(unbelievers), wish others ill(JR Staton), call evil good(Doyle and Lisa), Pay attention to silly women laden with sins, (KFC and K Small), alienate and dishonor my family(or anyone that does not attend WOL), and basically everyone without WOL was on an enemies list, kinda like Fox News and the the White House. God made people and they don’t all live in Plano. People I despised daily rebuke my WOL stupidity and stare it right out of countenance. Thank God for people, and they don’t all live in Plano.
Nadia – how wonderful to hear from you again – hope all is well. Thank you for posting one of the best statements to WOLlers I’ve run across. Please, check in from time to time and let us know what’s going on and how you’re doing. Are you making it to the Christmas party? I know they’d love to have you – someone was asking where you’d disappeared to just the other day. Keep in touch. Hugs! Meg
well put! Ill make a call lol
How can this idiot say these things and no one in the real world heres this crap? and why hasn’t a Jewish group or a black coalition gone after this old silly burned up drunk idiot? I’m really tired of this guy and I hope he offends someone enough that they shut him up!
Dear Vincent: If I recall, you’re Italian – one of the non-green persuasion. There’s a lot of us, like you, in the real word that hear him and laugh ourselves stupid. Unfortunately, he has the legal right to spew his bilge upon the ears of the gullible and vulnerable. For anyone with any sense, whom he offends, which would pretty much be everyone, to go after him would mean lending credibility to a mental ill geriatric alcoholic ignoramus who’s spent most of his life trying to buy himself credibility, instead of just going out and earning it quietly the way a real man does – through education, experience, a Godly walk, and a loving heart. However, if your green brothers wish to take him on, they’ve got my blessing. Perhaps while you are joining the rest of MOL for the Christmas party? AP7NW
well i tuned in tonight, caught the sad reading of kathy small (she is kathy small to me) i felt like i was in a sunday 3rd grade class and had to listen to four eyes again. but then, you have to know i have a degree of compassion for kathy mai, you arent human if you dont, so, she babbled on about how god used her and terry to teach their daughters to pray, and i am all for that, i am 100 per cent for that, BUT, THE PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS THE LIE.. YOU CANNOT SAY GOD TOOK YOUR DAUGHTER’S MOTHER OUT OF YOUR LIFE, THEN GAVE YOU ANOTHER WIFE THAT LIVED WITH ANOTHER MAN THAT HAD TWO KIDS AT HOME, THEN TURN AROUND AND BITCH ABOUT HOW HER HUSBAND WAS WICKED AND SHE WOULD COME BACK, SO SHE NEVER COMES BACK AND YOU CONVENIENTLY JUST DECIDE THAT “WILL LET THAT TEMPTATION GO AND GOD IS GOING TO GIVE ME ANOTHER WIFE AS SOON AS I DECIDE WHO IT WILL BE” so, this flagrant arrogant bas**rd that has the gall to name my lord jesus christ as a conspirator in a scheme to take another woman who has kids with another man and they are in deep financial troubles, and then to just parade her as a church lady, i am just so disgusted with this whole charade. i am against you d’oil. i am somewhat comforted in the fact that kathy mai has spoken for awhile although i did not watch more than 10 minutes,, the reason for my comfort is i feel they have done this because they realize last nights putrid circus by d’oil is not proper fare , even for cultists as themselves. i am appalled that anyone in water of life would really think that jesus christ would be behind giving another man’s wife to d’oil. the lord cleans up delinquent accounts before he arranges a different life style with people., so to speak… d’oil, you disgust me.
hahahaha. Jack, that was hilarious. That tops the time I asked Victoria Principal if she forgot to get off the elevator.
I hope you have more of those stories for the party. I looked up some fun Christmas games we could play too. but I have a feeling we will be plenty entertained already.
I have a partial list going of about 30 people so far.
Get your names in…asap… you too Tiffany, and your BFF Skylar- Like, we’re gonna need your fashion advise on how to, like, match our red and green outfits, to like, all the cute green Italian guys and the red dragon…or is it the f*ing grand dragon?
like, who gives a G.D.? Grand Dragon, bring some extra pints, and don’t forget your G.D. brother Red.
Hey, who says WOL has the monopoly on colorful characters and language?
Question-
What is the worst thing that can happen to a Cadillac owner?
Answer-
To go for a Sunday afternoon drive and nobody see them.
Isabel:
Okay, here goes. Remember that story I promised I would tell you at the Christmas Party. It was after you told the joke about T.D. being a chauffeur for Jesus. At the time, I didn’t think it was appropriate for the forum, but since we are on the topic of racism, I’ll go ahead and tell it. Its probably more appropriate here than at the Party.
Many years ago I went out to East Texas to look for a wayward client. I was out in the country, parked on the side of the road scratching my head about where to look next when, low and behold, here comes a Cadillac slowly coming down a very long drive-way towards me. So, I get out of my car and hale her before she turns onto the road. She was gracious enough to roll down her window and answer some of my questions, but I saw that there was a black woman seated in the back! She was obviously her domestic help that she was taking somewhere. And she made her sit in the back seat. That went all through me. So, after I finished questioning the ‘madam’, I crouched down so that I could directly speak to the woman in the back seat and I thanked her for stopping her car and allowing me to question her chauffeur. Okay, so now everyone knows that I’m really not a very nice person. But I’d do it again, given the chance. Thanks, Isabel, for listening.
Oh my gosh! This is so totally cool! Like, I know they’ve been talking in the news about illegal aliens coming into California and Texas and getting GI Joe to guard the borders and all, and like that Church that you talk about is in Texas and like now the Preacher’s talking about aliens and like they’re green and everything? And like I know that aliens are green, ‘cause my friend Skylar? Like she watches like these shows on the mystery channel. Or maybe it’s the history channel. Whatever. Anyway, and she reads these newspapers at the store, and like they talk about aliens. And so like I told her that Mr. Davidson said that green people are from Italy. And she’s like, “No WAY”! And I’m like “WAY!” And so like oh my gosh then she’s all like, Italian guys are really hot for the ladies. And so I’m like well, that’s kinda like this preacher, only he’s old, so like he’s maybe only lukewarm? Except like now I’m confused ‘Cause why would Italians need to build a flying saucer and come over the border from Mexico? ‘Cause Columbus was from Italy, you know, and that other guy – um – De Soto. And Cadillac. So could the Italians just take the bus to Texas or something? But this is like so educational, y’know? And like I’m really, really thinking I wanna go to this church. ‘Cause every night, those girls and women get to get up and like model their outfits for an hour in front of the men? And like, I’m gonna apply to fashion design school? And so this would be a really cool way to model some of my fashion ideas and see if like any of those women like them. And like maybe they’d ask me to make them something? And then like I could start saving up for my tuition? And like I might meet an Italian guy? Except that might not be good if he clashed with my clothes? ‘cause he’s green? So, like what do you think? Oh. And another thing? Why do some people want to put a “Barb’s Wired”* fence between Mexico and the US to keep the aliens out? ‘Cause Barbie’s really short, and so her fence would be really short, and so I don’t think it would work.
*(Through fact checking, it was determined TF had mis-heard barbed-wire fence. Ed.)
I think Tiffani is a long lost friend of my daughter… hope you stay around with us, Tiff!
Cheryl
isabel, thanynk-yew!
Ah wull be wearing mah ray-ed satin robe with mah tall dunce cap, fer Holler-ween marching ’round with a wat pillercase ta put mah caindee in. Mah ray-ed satin robe has uh back pocket in it tuh carry mah pahnt of Jack Daniel’s.
Happy Holler-ween, you wikkid ayvul unbayleevurz!
The Grand Dragon Himself
Um, “Grand Dragon”- will you be wearing your beltless stretch denim jeans under your red satin robe and cone-head cap? Just wondering- it could get chilly out there at night.
What surprised me last night was the reaction from the blue chairs to Doyle’s obscene remark in front of them and their children, the laughter and the smiles. Take a look at Kristen Small’s smile. There’s no reactions of shock, outrage or disapproval. Nobody walked out. I think somebody here mentioned some time ago that Doyle could go around that building with a gun and start shooting them all in the head one at a time and they’d just watch and wait their turn. I thought that person was joking but now I’m not so sure.
yep, they are in a dingleberry coma! i pray nothing happens like waco. ~lisah
Doyle is just like that judge…”yeah, I have “those people” over to my house…(Ezekiel stayed there twice for two weeks…)”
…but what if one of “them” tried to date his grandaughters? All hell would break loose!
Literally!
Doyle needs to repent before he does like Miriam and gets cursed by God for being a racist. I’ll bet if we paid KFC the money Raheem (who happens to be brown, I think) just got for selling the Yugo, she could do a little google search and tell us which of Doyle’s ansesters were once Grand Dragons.
Isabel:
Yep, I was referring to the green-stuff, the moolah, the green-backs, the cashola, money!, not the Italians.
I, too, remember when doyle appeared very non-racist to all of us. With these latest remarks, its clear where he truly stands. Did he change? Or did he just hide it well back then? I guess it really doesn’t matter any more, even though I have had that question about many, many wol topics.
JACKT: (CHERYL here)- although this is for Isabel, I wanted to say, I TOO have had many questions about WOL that will remain unanswered- and perhaps you’re right- maybe it DOESN’T matter.
In the case of racism: IMHO, people don’t “become” racists in their 70’s…. it was probably already there- he just kept his big mouth shut, because such language does not bring in the crowds, nor the money that they carry in their wallets and purses
when i went to the cultshack…i don’t remember him drunk when he was talking….maybe he’s loose-liped because he’s tipsy.~lisah
I remember when my ex and I first went to Doyle, we told him that someone had mentioned that there were OT scriptures that indicated that black people were “lower” and crawled on their bellies (???), and he reassured us that whoever said that was wrong and decieved. He is all for races mixing when it means a combined income and kids who obey “his” gospel.
I just realized something when I listened to him last night, and I feel another WOL e-mail coming on…
as far as F*ing whoever one wants to, maybe he needs to look around and see what is really going on under his own nose. I’ve heard some horror stories about the younger generation at WOL, and they have examples in their own parents. Lot’s of the typical cult “swapping”, and it is all coming out of ONE person’s heart, since they all walk in faith and no one is under the law.
Yes, this is only “heresay”, maybe even gossipy, but without going into too much detail, I can guarantee that once I left, there was a big change in my own life and heart. Things that were once acceptable are now disgusting, disturbing and distasteful. Unfortunately, my kids were stuck with the “old me” growing up, and the effects take a while to dissipate.
Funny how he talks about Ezekiel, but we don’t hear about Lazarath and Donna. I danced at Donna’s wedding. I remember that Doyle was mad because he got Laz over here to the U.S and fought with the wicked INS and then Laz comes here and marries one of his “sheep”…and moves away!!!
Wasn’t Laz an “Apostle” too at one time? Guess God changes His mind once you cross state lines.
Doyle got burned by one of those “naive” African-Americans.
Oh, and the reason they like green: it’s the color of the money which is the root of their evil.
Isabel: I agree with you, about the typical cult behavior of “swapping”- I too heard things, but didn’t actually witness them.
My daughter told me that one of the WOL girls had the reputation at the high school as being the bigggest sl%t there was. This same girl also supposedly had an STD. This is all hearsay, and perhaps it’s NOT right to repeat things I heard but can’t prove. But there is a POINT I’m trying to make:
Anyone remember the old poem:
“CHILDREN LEARN WHAT THEY LIVE” ?
I believe these WOL kids see Doyle up there, cussing, drunk, changing wives like some of us change cars, acting like a heathen, so why would we expect these kids to be chaste, and have moral scruples? They learn by EXAMPLE. “wol-kid see, wol-kid DO” ——— cp
I guess I’m a racist because I believe that people should marry within their own Human Race. That certainly leaves out any current wollers as candidates…they are waaaay out there. And we all know that their favorite color is GREEN. Maybe it reminds them of their home planet.
doyle likes his women white, small, and….married to other men. If he had been born in another race, would he still like his women white, small, and ….married to other men? The b*stard!
good one JT!
I just read this on the internet and it reminded me of another good ol’ boy:
In April 1997, at the Masters Golf Tournament, after shooting a pitiful 78 that tied him for 34th in the final standings, professional golfer Fuzzy Zoeller assessed the game of the young man who came in first: 21-year-old Tiger Woods, who became the first African-American to win a major tournament.
Referring to the Masters’ Champions Dinner where the menu is set by the previous year’s winner, Zoeller said about Woods: “That little boy is driving well and he’s putting well. He’s doing everything it takes to win. So, you know what you guys do when he gets in here? You pat him on the back and say congratulations and enjoy it and tell him not [to] serve fried chicken next year. Got it?” Zoeller smiled, snapped his fingers, and walked away. Then he turned his head and yelled over his shoulder, “or collard greens or whatever the hell they serve.”
Woods, whose mother is Asian-American and whose father was African-American, calls himself: “Calibasian.”
Zoeller obviously saw Woods in simpler terms. Insisting his comments were “not intended to be racially derogatory,” the golfer later apologized “for the fact that they were misconstrued in that fashion.”
Fried chicken and collard greens, huh? Now that’s what I call food racism.
inalley – The young man that Doyle was talking to was Terre Brown’s youngest son, Danny Daniel. Last week in one of Terre’s “testimonies” it came out that she was trying to restrict Danny from participating with his classmates in normal extra-curricular activities. She basically told us that he was not happy with that and was rebelling a little. My bet is that the poor kid is being restricted from attending his school’s Friday night football games because Terre wants him at WOL bunny-hopping like an idiot.
I’m thinking that’s why Doyle dangled that “you may be a prophet” in front of him last night. Doyle’s exact words, “You may be a prophet, you know that? You better shape up, quit following the world, not be following after that bunch of dumb students you go to school with. They’ll take you astray, they will.”
Danny, the only dumb people you’re surrounded by and who are leading you astray are Doyle and those people at WOL you’ve been forced by your parents to sit with for years. The reason they are so afraid of you doing normal activities for a young man your age is because WOL is a cult, not a church. A cult cannot tolerate a young man like you thinking for himself. If you start doing that, some of the other boys may follow and Doyle will lose control over your minds. That prospect terrifies them. Danny, to quote Doyle, if you have ears to hear listen, really listen to what Doyle is preaching. He does not preach love. He is trying to teach you to hate just about everyone and everything like he does. Do not let them put you on any kind of guilt trip for thinking for yourself or fall for that “you may be a prophet” bullcorn from Doyle. That’s just another ploy he uses to keep control of people. Socialize as much as you can with good kids outside of WOL. Your high school years are your fun years and you only get one shot at it. Don’t blow it for Doyle Davidson.
Excellent Bob. Thanks for the sane advice from A COMPLETE STRANGER that Danny should be getting FROM HIS PARENTS, were they normal. AP7NW.
I don’t know how Doyle can claim that he’s not a racist when he makes a statement like he did tonight, saying blacks use the “f” word all the time. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson might want to come to Plano to debate him on that one.
Can you just imagine Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson sitting under Doyle and listening to him talk the way he does…will somebody please call them!!! heh heh!!rab
Oh my gosh, another WOL classic. so many contradictions, love/hate, black/white, senility/lucidity..and the green Italians..that just goes to show what happens when you shun education. Luann is now a perfect candidate to preach Doyle’s gawspel, or at least become the next main squeeze.
Doyle also tells a young man he MAY be a “prophet” (based on the fact that he is sitting in a blue chair?), but he needs to stay away from “those kids at school”. In other words, isolate yourself from reality and you can become a prophet in my little fantasy world. So Sad! Flattering those poor kids who get big heads when they hear of how great they can become in the kingdom of Doyle if they hang out with the almighty. It worked with their parents, right?
Doyle’s rant reminds me of that Louisiana judge who is being sued for not permitting that young couple to get married because they had different skin colors. He stated that he has many black friends and they come over to his house, but they should not marry outside of their race…because, just think of what the kids will have to suffer through…
yeah, those poor, rejected bastards. Society will look down on them, they will be ridiculed, and one day, they will grow up and they may even turn out like…
OBAMA!
Lord, have mercy on those ignorant country bumpkins.
Did I hear him say that Ezekiel Gutie said he knew Doyle was a man of God when he saw Doyle’s new caddy?
That just goes to show how WOL likes to impress and dupe naive, vulnerable people with their gawspel of greed and filthy lucre.
I think Doyle forgot that he once told me and my (ex)husband that it would please God if we got married. He even performed the “ceremony”. As long as people are “useful” to him, he has a different set of rules.
Maybe in his senility, he forgot about Moses and the Ethiopian woman?
Confusion is of the devil, and he put on quite a show tonight. Slurring and Slamming others for following their fleshly lusts.
I bet he could not even spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e, even with Luann’s assistance!
[hip-uh-krit]
–noun 1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
Amen Girlfriend! Your children are beautiful and so are you! rab
If any of you want to hear Luann’s brilliant thought that green people come from Italy, she says that at 11 minutes, 15 seconds into the show.
Doyle had his tech people blip out his foul language from the archived recording of tonight’s show, so if you didn’t catch the “live” show you wouldn’t know what he said. Just for the record at 12 minutes 45 seconds he said, “I have never heard of such a wicked person that would just go to bed with any damn thing, any color, any race, any f**kin’ thing. Pardon my language, I repent.”
thanks, Bob. I was trying to download it last night, and when I tried to open it, it wouldn’t open. I guess the internet techies were scrambling around trying to clean up the “F-ing” language on the f-ing internet!
hahahaha-
anyway- thanks for letting us know what/how it was said, in context.
So, Doyle says that “BLACKS” saying the F word, therefor HE should?
ROFL!!!!!!
That is absolutely hilarious!
Next thing we know (since Doyle wants to imitate African-American language and behavior), should we look for Doyle to be sporting “bling” and singing hip hop?
Can you picture that?
He’s such a shmuck.
cp
well i watched for about 7 minutes, d’oil i walking around not unlike a piece of burnt toast talking about his past accomplishments, railing about how he is not a beggar, funds must be low,, cool,,,i counted about 50 peeps there, i am looking for around 25, these young people must have nothing to do on a thursday night,, but then again, i am giving about ten minutes,, so i am under scutiny i guess. so, then there is a desperate plea about a black man getting a white woman pregnant. d;oil has some serious issues about race and sex and women and lots of things related to that. he really is a redneck from way way back. mobile double wide,, so, i have just been told that if i condemn him , i am going to hell,, well i am judging what you are saying d’oil, and i am confident i am not going to hell, and i say you are a pox. a pox, a railing pox. your mouth is full of cursing and bitterness. out of your own mouth you have judged yourself. j in k
aben, j in k, aben. we are to judge people by their fruit, their lives. we aren’t judging drool about his eternal destination we are judging the spirit that he walks in which isn’t of God! good post J in K
BOB!
Tonight must have been HILARIOUS!
“F- bombing” and “green people”?
Thanks for the Laugh Out Loud Gut Busting Post!
LOL LOL!!!!
Doyle:
Seriously, are you drinking the hard stuff- or smoking crack?
After Doyle finished what looked like an alcohol inspired “sermon” complete with the “f” word, Mrs. Doyle took to the pulpit, looking more pious than usual, to read some more Wigglesworth. So tell us Kathie, what do you think Wigglesworth would think of your husband’s behavior? Then Basil took to the stage to lead the congregation in worship. These people are really a joke, a very sick joke.
Oh, I think Doyle liked Luann saying that Italians are green. He later told her that she’s going to be preaching the gospel soon.
Oh boy, Thursday night I got to hear Luann talk for the first time. I wish I hadn’t. Doyle was saying that he preached to people of all colors, black, red, white, yellow and even green. He asked Luann if she knew where green people came from? In all seriousness she looked up at him and answered, “Italy, right?” Doyle was in the process of joking about preaching to Martians but Luann stole the show with that one. Um, no Luann, Italians are not green, but thanks for giving us some insight into the intelligence of a current blue chair.
Oh my! Cult leader Doyle appears to be drunk again for the Thursday “service.” He got a little out of control when talking about sex between the races and used the “f” word. This is with little children present. Then he justified his slip of the tongue by saying that the word is in the dictionary and blacks use it all of the time!!!!!
This is my “Let’s Type”. Any similarities to Bob’s recent account of “Let’s Talk” is purely coincidental. I’m going back to the tale of my preacher who spewed forth green gunk (spiritually speaking) every time he got up to talk to us. And if I wouldn’t tolerate green gunk in my bathtub, why would I tolerate spiritual green gunk in my soul? So I went forth away from there. End of story.
Now, that’s a soul-savin’ testimony right there. Not some bathroom fixin’ testimony.
Aben and Aben. Thou hast gained wisdom and discernment, bro. Aben. And thou wentest out from that place and shooketh the red carpet fuzz from thy feet and found that, at MOL, you get a free bottle of goat sauce as a lovely membership gift (beats having to give up your bank account #, now doesn’t it?!
Meg)
Meg,
Here’s how to keep your WOL Kathys and Kathies straight.
Kathy Mai – Very much off the wall
Kathy Courier – Somewhat off the wall
Kathie Davidson – The wall is padded
Um – yeah, but don’t you mean “Off the WOL” etc? ROFL. Thanks.
Hey Meg, get your Kathy’s straight! I got busted for the same thing recently. Let’s just hope KFC never makes it into the Davidson mix (more than she already is)…
maybe that’s why Kathy Neblett left?
Huh? Sorry to be so dense – not sure what you’re talking about…Meg Never mind. The plumbing matter….
Unfortunately, I won’t be able to attend the MOL Christmas Crusade. I live in the San Diego area. We won’t be making the trip home to TX for the holidays because my husband deploys in January. He is a Marine.
Rachel: we’re sorry you won’t be able to make it to TX, but….
We will pray for your husband, that he stays safe, that God will watch over him and protect him as he serves in the Marines, for OUR freedom. Blessings and peace, Cheryl
I will be there with bells and whistles.
I am working on the e-mail list, so get them in to the forum asap!
Al, we will miss you, and will try to get some pics. We can have a MOL contest to see if those who DON’T show up can figure out who those that DO show are…
I thought you guys would appreciate this story. It illustrates part of Doyle’s problem. See, these guys get to take a covenant oath plus they get nifty rings to wear. Doyle doesn’t offer any of that stuff!
Tamaki’s 700 ’sons’ swear oath of loyalty
EXCLUSIVE – The leader of Destiny Church, Brian Tamaki, who not long ago anointed himself bishop of the church he founded, has now proclaimed himself the church’s “spiritual father” and designated the male members of the church as “spiritual sons”.
At a special service during the church’s annual conference in Auckland at the weekend, about 700 male members of the church swore a “covenant oath” of loyalty and obedience to Mr Tamaki and were given a “covenant ring” to wear on their right hands.
A church document describes the covenant as “a solemn oath of commitment that is binding, enduring and unbreakable. You are bound to covenant … Covenant is an irrevocable, undissolvable oath of commitment”.
The document, entitled Protocols and Requirements Between Spiritual Father & His Spiritual Sons, contains the text of the “covenant oath”, the guts of which is that “Above all, we stand here today in the presence of God to enter into this sacred covenant with our man of God, Bishop Brian Tamaki”.
Read the full story here
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10605956&pnum=0
Yeah, but Steve, at least if you’re a guy and you join up you get a BSO (bright, shiny object) a magic decoder ring to show you’re part of the club. Doodle doesn’t even offer a beanie with propeller. Plus, where’d you rather hang out – Plano? Or New Zealand? Hmmm. This is really not a hard decision. They come up with cool joolry for chicks, me and Normal Jane might be on the next catamaran outta here….AP7NW
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STEVE: Thank you for the link. The behaviors and beliefs are so similar to WOL!
With the “ring thing”- it almost sounds like these men are “married” to this “Bishop”. When I married my husband, I entered into a “Marriage Covenant” with him…. this Bishop guy from New Zealand sounds way too much like Jim Jones- and call me super-suspicious, but I smell something “fishy”- perhaps this BISHOP and these men are involved in more than “agape” love? Jim Jones demanded this same type of loyalty, and we all know Jones was intimate with many women AND men in his flock- sick, but true. And no, I don’t have a dirty mind- the facts are the facts- sick as they are…..
Anyway- thanks for the link Steve!
Blessings,
Cheryl
I live in California now. Spent many years in Texas.
Al
I asked, because I knew some people in Florida with the same name as yours. Thanks- cp
To the MOL Social Planners:
Speaking of The Party, do we have a tentative head-count? James in Kansas is the only one that I know of who has confirmed on the Forum. I’ll be there with one other and I promise to not be a curmudgeonly attendee.
I will say “possibly” ,if I am in town- I’d like to come and will try. Just so nobody makes me dress up like MRS. Santa! *cp*
Fine Cheryl. Just fine. You can be MR. SANTA, okay? But YOU get to tell Raheem he doesn’t get the red suit. And you’ll still have to use his wives (in green burkas) as the elves. But hey, it’s all about YOU, right? So long as Cheryl’s happy….
ROFL Meg
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short and pudgy, with glasses- LOL cp
But MEG! I look like Mrs. Santa
In an AMAZING testimony, Doyle prayed Terre though a bout with a 24 hour flu bug. Prayed for, it lasted about a day. For you wicked unbelievers who aren’t prayed for by Doyle, the 24 hour bug lasts….about a day. This is not to be confused with the H1N1 (swine) Influenza which has (to date) killed about 1,000 wicked unbelievers in the U.S alone (over 6,000 worldwide) If Doyle has the ability to pray through this one, he hasn’t shown it so far but this is what I’m waiting to see. Actually Doyle is in a high risk age group and ’should’ have the vaccine. But he won’t and that’s OK because the vaccine is a Socialist plot to achieve, I don’t know what….good health, I guess. Doyle hasn’t come down on the vaccine yet (at least I haven’t heard him speak to it), but maybe he’ll favor us with his views some night. BTW: I took the vaccine even if it is witchcraft. Risk of the flu outweighs the risk of the vaccine, IMHO. Doyle referred briefly to Hillary Clinton’s trip to Pakistan but I couldn’t tell if he was FOR it or AGAINST it. Anybody? His prayer breakthrough on Socialism seems to have the same sticking power as all the other ‘breakthroughs’ he’s had, especially the Exorcisms of Terre Brown. Speaking of whom, did you notice her voice quality? Like Kathy Mai, Terre’s voice shows the signs of overuse, no doubt due to all that singing and praying at the top of their lungs all day and night. Doyle’s Gawd apparently does not hear a silent or whispered prayer. You really have to belt it out at 100 decibels and repeat it about 1,000 times before you get his attention. Speaking of voices, Doyle has been handing over the Lucite Lectern to the Ladies lately and confining his own remarks to a brief opening and a few brief off-the-wall comments as a follow-up to their blabbering. He spoke briefly last night; another addled trip trip down Memory Lane. He’s slipping up on his quotes and references and is repeatedly making slight mistakes (OK, you know what i mean) when talking. This seems to be a relatively recent development and may be significant. All his speaking recapitulates the past. He hasn’t had a new idea in years. And his vocal cords simply can’t sustain prolonged use or permit sustained speaking at higher volume. I’ve posted on my opinion about that and I’d just say: he’s continuing to deteriorate mentally and physically.
Perhaps DD should just quote Solomon: “There’s nothing NEW under the sun”…. nor at WOL! *cp*
Al: see my “PS” at the bottom of this- ok?
Your postings have been sorely missed!
Glad to see you didn’t abandon us….
We need your input-
Plus, I personally think you’re pretty cool.
Have a great weekend…
Cheryl
Hey Al: if I’m not being too nosey, can I ask what state you live in? Or if that’s too nosey- can I ask, do you live in Texas? Just wondering.
Have a good one-
CP
AP7NW – I won’t be able to make it to the MOL Christmas Bash, but I think it will be fun.
You guys are probably the best bunch of Christians I have ever met, but I’m incontrovertibly unconvertable, so there would be no danger of me leaving the party a Christian.
Besides, atheists and Christians aren’t really so far apart; you only believe in one god more than I do.
I heard a pretty good comeback from an atheist: An atheist was asked by a Christian, “What if you’re wrong about Jesus Christ?” The atheist replied, “What if you’re wrong about Zeus?”.
Aben.
Al
Well, we could always have a west coast party and meet 1/2 way in Oregon.ROFL..AP7NW
Those pictures are hilarious!!!!
Good to hear from you, Possom,
You had better be at the party, or we will get our God to BLESS YOU, like those WOLLERS do.
Your comments reminded me of the list of comments kids made about God that I just posted, and this one is my favorite:
• A Republican is a sinner mentioned in the Bible.
(I think the kid meant “publican”)
and as far as trying to convert you, we can just do what Paul did, according to the kids:
• The native of Macedonia did not believe, so Paul got stoned
just kidding!!!!
New “Let’s Talk” video put up by Kathy Mai today with some more “testimony” on how Gawd gets involved in the minute details of her life. She went back to the tale of the green gunk that spewed forth from her bathtub one day and how Gawd told her to go forth and purchase a new tub which he was able to get for her at half price. She expanded on this story today to say that this started a bathroom remodeling project which included granite counter tops and new faucets. Naturally problems arose that required Divine intervention to straighten out. When the dealer went to get the granite that she had picked out at first he didn’t think there was enough in stock to do the job but then he looked somewhere else and saw another piece of it sticking out. He had to get to it with a forklift (can we all say “Allelujah!”). But he didn’t have the faucets that Kathy had picked out from a catalog. He found another dealer who did have them and called Kathy to meet him there to take a look at them. When she saw the faucets in person she didn’t like them and saw some others that she did like. Kathy says it was the power of Gawd that made that happen. I’m thinking that her first choice was so bad that the contractor wanted to get her down there to talk her out of them before he bought them. Lastly when they went to install the new tub while they were at it they found some plumbing that needed to be replaced (are we bored yet?).
Today I realized what’s so annoying listening to her speak. She doesn’t have good breathing control. She says way too much at one time to where she has to slurp in air, the sound of which grates on the nerves.
and this is a “testimony”? to what?
plumbing? good deals on tubs, faucets and marble countertops? how many words a person can blurt out in one breath?
maybe it’s really a testimony as to how much “GOO” the listener can endure before shutting off the video. i don’t know, i’m just a bit confused and i guess the jezzy has me blinded to the spiritual message that’s in this “testimony’. maybe it’s my wicked hard heart and maybe i don’t have the ear to hear what this “spirit” is saying . LOL. i need a nap now.
Sheesh. Talk about overkill. Were I to have “green gunk” spewing from my tub, I’d probably get some Drano or liquid Plumber. Such cavalier spending (does one really NEED granite in one’s loo?) goes a long way to explaining why she and Jack had financial problems. Not really being a good steward if one is spending what they don’t have. Sadly, I’m depressed, as I realize I’m a whole lot less feminine than Kathy, and my hopes of being Drool’s next wife are dashed ’cause I’m not girly enough for him…AP7NW
Silly Meg,,,,,you getting your kathy’s mixed up! heh heh! rab
Hey Bob that was funny! I don’t think they are bright enough to put those facts together. After all they are used to god changing his mind quite often. I think they will all kind of slink off like Carl in Caddy Shack after the course blew up.
Al the Atheist checking in. I haven’t posted much lately because I haven’t been watching Pee Wee Doyle’s Playhouse. I do read the comments here fairly regularly, so I feel like I know more or less what’s going on.
As for Doyle’s crusade to overcome socialism, it isn’t working so well, is it? I also oppose socialism, but I do so because I’m a libertarian and think individuals should be free; Doyle opposes socialism because he’s an autocrat and thinks individuals should be subject to his will.
I’m watching the Wednesday replay: Terre Brown gets the flu, goes to church and spreads it around. Her fever breaks after a few days, so it’s a miracle from Doyle. Just insane, and very sad.
Doyle rambles on pointlessly, mostly about people he barely remembers. Take a long nap, Doyle. Aben.
Your servant and Opossum,
Al
Faithful Oppossum – thank you for assuring us you’re still here, snuffling around in the garbage pit that is WOL. (Don’t eat ANYTHING!). Are you going to join the MOL Christmas bash? I’m sure you’d be welcome (she said on the Forum’s behalf!) and they probably wouldn’t even try and convert you (DON’T DO THAT, FOLKS!). I work on the theory that no one ever came to embrace any belief system sincerely by having it crammed down their throat). Feel free to throw yourself on the sword for the team and take on a broadcast review now and then…spreading the pain around mitigates it somewhat. Although, were you to review EVERY broadcast, we’d probably elevate you to martyrdom! Take care. AP7NW
I think the funniest statement from Doyle this week was when he told the blue chairs that he will not die. Before that happens he will be lifted up into the air. When Kathie finds him one day face down in his cheese sammich the “chairs” will finally realize that Doyle was a liar. Doyle has taught them that all liars are sent to The Pit. How will they be able to deal with the fact that the man they have been following for years is burning in Hell? I wonder if Doyle and Kathie have some contingency plan for her to get rid of Doyle’s body so that no Death Certificate can be written and filed?
OMG: I am now even quoting BUDDHA! Hey, if it’s true, it’s TRUE, regardless of who said it. I think Buddha’s words below are more credible than Doyle stating that we should believe him because he speaks the oracles of God.
Atheist Al, I’m not joining you, or “going to the dark side” but your people do have more honesty than many so called Christians.
Buddha:
Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it. Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held. Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books. Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin. Believe nothing just because someone else believes it. Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true.
Where is Al? I miss him. AP7NW
thanks, CP- I found a bunch more and added them to my site, along with some recent pics of San Antonio. Some of the quotes are a little controversial. Here is another one by Frederick Douglas, He was a social/civil rights activist:
The church of this country is not only indifferent to the wrongs of the slave, it actually takes sides with the oppressors…. For my part, I would say, welcome infidelity! Welcome atheism! Welcome anything! in preference to the gospel, as preached by these Divines! They convert the very name of religion into an engine of tyranny and barbarous cruelty, and serve to confirm more infidels, in this age, than all the infidel writings of Thomas Paine, Voltaire, and Bolingbroke put together have done! -Frederick Douglas
Isabel:
LOVE the quotes! How do you ever find this cool stuff?
They were really GOOD ones!
MEDIC: Good to see you posting again.
ROSEY:
NICE to meet you, and welcome to the Forum!
Blessings all around,
CP
I found more cool quotes, and this one even from an athiest!
If I were not an atheist, I would believe in a God who would choose to save people on the basis of the totality of their lives and not the pattern of their words. I think he would prefer an honest and righteous atheist to a TV preacher whose every word is God, God, God, and whose every deed is foul, foul, foul. -Isaac Asimov
and this one really speaks of WOL:
Samuel Taylor Coleridge:
He who begins by loving Christianity better than truth, will proceed by loving his own sect or church better than Christianity, and end in loving himself better than all.
Some children’s answers to church school questions – from the Church of England:
• Noah’s wife was called Joan of Arc.
• Henry VIII thought so much of Wolsley that he made him a cardigan.
• The fifth commandment is “humour thy father and mother”.
• Lot’s wife was a pillar of salt by day and a ball of fire by night.
• Salome was a woman who danced naked in front of Harrod’s.
• Holy acrimony is another name for matrimony.
• The pope lives in a vacuum.
• The patron saint of travelers is St. Francis of the sea sick.
• Iran is the Bible of the Moslems.
• A Republican is a sinner mentioned in the Bible.
• Abraham begat Isaac and Isaac begat Jacob and Jacob begat twelve partridges.
• The native of Macedonia did not believe, so Paul got stoned.
• The first commandment was when Eve told Adam to eat the apple.
• It is sometimes difficult to hear what is being said in church because the agnostics are so terrible.
Bob:
I’m sure that money entered into it, but she just flat chose dad’s way over mom’s way. My only point was that she had a strong counter-balance to doyle in her mother, so she is not some helpless victim. She made her choice, for whatever reasons.
Like Medic said, she will probably end up with nothing now that small is the new wife. Don’t know if anyone else remembers, but doyle gave kathy her part of the estate when patti died. So, that may be it for her. I think doyle did that so that he would be free to be with wife #2, who shared no love for doyle’s daughter.
Jack T – My assumption would be that Kathy Mai stuck with daddy for the income that WOL provided for her and Terry. Am I wrong there?
I agree that kathy m had a nut case for a father. She also had a mother who didn’t buy into doyle’s con circus. kathy had more of a chance than some who attended, but she made her choice.
I haven’t spoken up in awhile, but just have to say that I can’t stand to watch Small Davidson talk any more. She acts so righteous when in reality (a concept both she and Doodles don’t understand) she’s tiny, homely and doesn’t appear to be too intelligent. She really doesn’t have anything going for her. That being said, it’s like watching a train wreck happen. Doody left the room years ago, but maybe at some point Little Small Davidson was a loving wife and mother, and truly was searching for Christ. But now she is left with an ex-husband who probably dearly loved her, no job, disappearing children, a toothless old geezer who is also a lunatic, and unless she turns this around will spend eternity in the pits of hell.
I’ve watched Kathy Mai closely when she talks and dances, and I truly believe there is something amiss with her mental health as well. She is such a beautiful woman who never had a chance in the world with a nutcase for a father. It’s too bad she didn’t run when she had the chance. She and her daughters could wind up broke and homeless as soon as Daddy dies. (Daddy Died and Who’s Got the Will?)
Candace is raging mad at the world, and some day that piano will just turn around and slap her. I play the piano as well and mine wouldn’t still be standing if I abused it the way she does.
Like RevDoc, I’m around nutty people all the time and frankly, these folks take the cake.
I wish I could be at the Christmas Party. I would love to meet everyone in person but I’m in school that day. Hope everyone has fun and make sure you take pictures!
Doodles? Doodles? Oh honey, you win – I nailed the screen laughing! PERFECT! Doodles. I love it. AP7NW
okay, I know I didn’t make this up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZje6VGBBuM
Thanks for sharing that! TGL came in and watched over my shoulder. He remembers watching it EVERY day when he was a boy and said “Thanks for sharing!” AP7NW
hahahahah…it took me a second to recognize the stretch limo in the background…priceless.
Maybe the prince in shining armor is Ashley’s date?
We had a cartoon in Germany on American TV called Crusader Rabbit.
No one probably has a clue what I am talking about.
do tell, Isabel!
Cheryl
I know the competiton has been fierce at WOL but, the “Drama Queen of the Week” is TERRI BROWN. Sorry KM,KSD, and KC better luck next week.
I guess if Terri gets some ear wax she calls Doyle.
hang-nails require a 911 call to the big d himself….
Anybody want to guess she has his cell phone on speed dial…. Number 1?- cp
Doyle’s Wednesday night “sermon” was a rambling trip down Memory Lane during which he mentioned a dozen or so relatives. It went nowhere. There was no point to it. It was kind of like sitting with an old person in a nursing home and letting them ramble on while you politely nod your head and show fake interest. There were really some great zombie looks during this discourse. The look on Luann’s face was priceless. It kind of said that she was trying to keep up but was clueless.
Ya know, Bob…. way back, there was a movie my daughter and I went to see called “Fried Green Tomatoes”. Kathy Bates played a woman who regularly visits Jessica Tandy, who tells a real good tale of the friendship of two women and their antics. My point? Jessica Tandy’s strory had real characters, with a POINT and a story!! Doyle’s has neither- like you said, mere rambling. Old age setting in, for sure- cp
If anyone had any lingering doubt that Terre Brown’s brain is fried, her Wednesday night “testimony” should eliminate it. She told of how last October she hadn’t been feeling well for a few days (it sounded like a touch of the flu). But in her telling of it, she later found out that her illness had been caused by Doyle trying to overcome Socialism, also by one of her husband’s old co-workers dying and lastly some “Jezabel” who taught at her old Bible church also passing away. She hadn’t been aware of these events at the time she was ill but later connected the dots to determine that this is why she had been sick and then recovered. No logical thought process there at all. This woman is really out there in La-La-Land.
all cognitive reasoning is gone- that’s quite evident! cp
Well, I remember when doyle was overcoming the city of plano. That was around the time that the city refused to let him put a church in some roller skating rink that had been setting empty for a while. If that failure is overcoming plano, then I guess America is going socialistic for sure, with doyle overcoming it. BTW, I cannot think of a single positive influence that he has had on the city of plano, it being overcome and all.
As a matter of fact, with plano being as materialistic as it is, sounds like that materialism overcame doyle and crew, with their limos and jets and all.
I remember there was a period of time when the ministry was really struggling financially. The late terry stood up several times and announced that he was willing to sell his house and go out and get a job. Did ya catch that?? He was publicly admitting that he could not afford his own house payment if he wasn’t living off of dummies like us.
Well, I overcame one day and left. How ’bout those apples?? er, strawberries.
Hi JackT: Amen to that, Bro! Yes, I DO remember Terry offering to sell his house, more than once.
Yeh, they ALL did mooch off of dummies like “us”- ME being one of the BIG dummies! But I take comfort in the fact that Doyle HAS BEEN/AND WILL reap what he has sown! CP
the only reason she is up there is, one: d’oil has designs on her personally, or two: she and her husband are the major financial contributors to d’oil. maybe both. supposedly terre brown is the only person that god has told d’oil to ever deliver. i have seen this place grow very small and just want to see it grow smaller.
Hi there, James, I’ll add my own two cents. I agree with you, I think it’s a combination of BOTH! Now Doyle is rambling about his grandfather being interested in politics.
WHO CARES if they grew strawberries? I mean really— WHO GIVES A RIP? I don’t! >:-( cp
“socialism came straight out of the bah-bul” sayeth drool. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, wicked men wanted to destroy you, blah, blah, wicked men, socialism, FDR, blah blah blah- i’m nodding off…..
terre brown stood up there tonight (for as long as i could stand) talking about how she was fighting some spirit and was sick, so she called the d’oil and he said he was “overcoming” socialism and he was delivering her too. so she says, if you join your faith to his you will get a “spillover” of his grace. well,i will just take my chances on my own grace thank you. crusade ? reminds me of monty python where the guy is riding a stick horse instead of a real horse. here it is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhRUe-gz690 d’oils entrance into the magnolia room
right-o, james/ rather nauseating to listen to this drivel. how if i joined my faith, i get doyle’s “spillover”? gee, spillover sounds like a cesspool to me. see? the wolnuts just can’t do anything without their idol doyle. they can’t pray and get healed by Jesus, unless doyle is part of the equation. oh please. i’m gagging now. nice that terre gives the credit to doyle overcoming socialism instead of giving the praise glory and honor to our Lord Jesus Christ. one pathetic bunch. if they only could see how stupid they sound when they get up there and blab like that. simply stupid.
for the heck of it, I looked up the word “crusade” in the bible, since I have blocked out much of what I learned in “bible college”,and here are the results:
No results found.
duh! just like that voice that speaks to Ms. Small. These are all figments of their hyperactive imaginations.
I don’t think the word “revival” is there either. Although there hasn’t been any “reviving” going on either, alleged bike path incident nonwithstanding.
They sure like to pick on those naive country folks who they try to impress with their jets and Limo stories. Guess the folks in Plano are too “sophisticated” to believe their Gawspel.
Tiffany, that was funny. Welcome to MOL, whoever you are…
come to the party!
Thanks, Issy! I agree, Tiffany is funny! (Welcome, Tiffany!) Excellent post Issy. Growing up as kid, my grandmother, although an ex-Catholic, would watch Billy Graham “Crusades”, where Graham preached and held a crusade in front of “thousands”. How funny, when you think of it, that WOL’s “crusades” amount to less than 20 people! Too funny!
CP
I always think Crusade is such a poor choice of words.
How would we feel if the local Islamic community announced that they were going to have a Jihad?
Same thing.
Yeah, but at least on a crusade, you get better clothes! Really, what CAN one do to dress up a burka? AP7NW
Ever heard: “the proof is in the pudding”?
Well, we have CLEAR proof that the people at Water of Life Church, Plano, Texas, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT hear the voice of the ONE TRUE LIVING GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB, THE GOD OF THE BIBLE.
Nope- they “hear” a voice, and just because they hear “A VOICE” they automatically believe it’s GOD’S VOICE.
Kathie Small said “I heard that voice say, ‘I’m separating you and Jack’ (Small)”.
BAM! Right there- is the proof.
KATHIE SMALL:
I CHALLENGE YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS, TO PROVIDE SCRIPTURAL BASIS TO SUPPORT THIS VOICE, THAT IT WAS “GOD” SPEAKING TO YOU!
I won’t hold my breath, because there is none, there is NO such scripture, and YOU, Doyle, and the rest of you WOL people are UNABLE to hear His Voice.
Therefore, if you aren’t hearing HIS voice, you are NOT His sheep. Simple.
You heard the voice of satan, that seducing spirit, that whispered into your ear, telling you that nonsense.
I believe you, Kathie Small, that you indeed heard a “voice”- but it wasn’t the voice of the GOOD SHEPHERD.
It was “a stranger’s voice” that Jesus said His sheep would NOT follow.
You’ve been duped by the devil, and by the lust of your own flesh.
The ONLY ones you can convince that you heard “GOD” are the other Woller’s.
We who don’t listen and believe the false prophet of Plano, KNOW BETTER: we KNOW that GOD doesn’t speak these words.
You, Kathie Small, heeded the same deceiving voice that Doyle heard in 1987, when he thought he heard “God” telling him Lisa Staton was his “wife”.
You ALL listen to lies, the lies of the devil.
Cheryl Parmenter
em>Cheryl – you’re more spot on than you know. “Proof is in the pudding” originally was “the proof of the pudding is in the eating” – in other words, the results count and show if the work has been fruitful. Or in the case of WOL, more like raisinful. AP7(and still waiting on the Rev)NW
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Well said, Most High Profitess Meg! cp
A crusade! Oh my gosh! I LOVE crusades! All those horses and hunky men in chain mail taking their weapons and goin’ off hunting for the Holy Quail, and their surfers got to stay behind to take care of their land? It was really cool!
Oh. A MODERN crusade? Oh my gosh! I love those too! There was a song written like a really long time ago called “I love a crusade”! My nana loved that song! She used to sing it to me all the time, but I don’t remember it how it goes! But it’s really, really cool! ‘Cause my nana taught it to me!
Oh. A RELIGIOUS crusade? Oh my gosh! I love those! Like where they have this really big stadium? And like thousands of people get in there and sing? And like they’re all praisin’ the Lord and everything? And oh my gosh, like Tobymac and Mandisa and Michael W. Smith and Jars of Clay and 3rd Day and all those really cool groups perform? Oh my gosh! I love those songs! Like I really, really like that song that those guys sang that one time! Like it was so cool -
What? A motel? In Joplin Missouri? The Magnolia Room? Maybe 20 people? If they’re lucky? The Mai Girls are gonna perform? Preacher Who? Um… Oh my gosh! I gotta go! My ride’s here! Um – yeah. I’ll call you! Um, but I think I might be washing my hair then! ‘Bye
Maybe someone should give the Holiday Inn in Joplin a little background on the old horndog?
Joplin Holiday Inn
3615 S Range Line Rd
Joplin, MO 64804
(417) 782-1000
AP7NW
Rut roh, Doyle’s getting tough. On his website today he announced his “Crusade” of 2010, the first battle of which will be fought in the Magnolia Room of the Holiday Inn in Joplin, Missouri in January.
I’m wondering what will distinguish a WOL Crusade from from a regular old WOL gathering with the same old attendees doing the same old dancing and walking in circles to Terry Mai recordings?
Crusades should generate new energy and excitement, focus on a cause other than dancing from Point “A” to Point “B,” draw in new converts. What could Doyle possibly have in store for the Christian world?
Okay…my fellow peepers…we wouldn’t want Doyle to have a place to TRY and recruit…so all of you know the drill……!!! If it’s GOD for us to do this, then it won’t be hard to stop him AGAIN! But all of you know this man is working with the enemy and is only trying to recruit for his enemies benefit!
I always pray and think about what GOD wants me to do…..this felt right from the get go! How much longer will Doyle keep going after we have literally torn down most of his recruiting tools, TV, motel churches, etc…..now crusades…my belief is not much longer……My biggest prayer is that his internet provider is notified enough to take him down as well….please help me tear this evil man’s domain down!! God Bless! rab
Boyd,
Good point about Basil. How many times has he been fired and rehired by Doyle The Clarks seem like really nice people and it must be the money that keeps them there NOW. Too many people are depending on Doyle for their livelihood. A rude awakening day is ahead for those on the payroll.
Oh JackT! This is TOO good!
When Cheryl called it Withering Heights and then mentioned Arena Drive, I was struck by the word Arena. So, I looked it up. Here are some definitions that we can probably all agree are appropriate: 1. An enclosed area for the presentation of spectacles. “Spectacles” indeed- does that mean “eye wear” as well?
2. a sphere or scene of conflict or intense activity.LOL! 3. a particular environment. 4. A place or scene where forces contend or events unfold. 5. from Latin harnna (also spelled arnna), “sand.” Harnna then came to mean the part of a Roman amphitheater that was covered with sand to absorb the blood spilled by the combatants. 6. (Med.) “Sand” or “gravel” in the kidneys. [1913 Webster] 7. any sphere of struggle or conflict.another good one! 8. A riding ring that is enclosed with walls and a roof, allowing riding in bad weather, especially in areas where snow may prevent outdoor riding.
I thought the definition about his house being built on sand was very appropriate.me too JT! Also, with all this sex-talk, I thought # 8 might apply. Except I don’t know why a little snow would prevent riding, as long as its dark outside.
it would be really funny if their house had a “room 22″ in it – LOL- thanks for the great comments JT!
*cp*
True Story:
I once read an article someplace several years back, that Rabbi Shmuley Boteach – the Orthodox Rabbi who wrote “Kosher S##”, once went into a “toy store” and pirn shop. He made the owner an offer. The Rabbi told the owner, if the owner would remove the pirn dvd’s, and change the name of the store to something geared for “Married Couples”, he’d invest in the store. Rabbi Boteach is all in favor of such “toys” provided they be used in a marriage relationship. Unfortunately the owner turned him down.
Perhaps we should send Rabbi Boteach the link to “book 22″….
I rather think he’d be in favor of it!
LOL,
cp
What a time to rejoice!
If this is all true (and I wouldn’t know since I don’t watch “Withering Heights” aka WOL) – but IF John and Stephen Small have truly moved OUT of Arena Drive-
WOW! Praise GOD!
cp
well, i am no prude, but the “year of lovemaking kit” has to be the most over the top marketing ploy i have seen so far. but i am sure there is more to follow. pretty funny though, really. i am just going to do songs . here is one about darkness , light, judas, jesus, betrayal,love and the end of the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP4I7AJGvt0
MOLCULT HQ wishes to thank AP7NW for taking the hit and reviewing the aforementioned website. Raheem made the mistake of wondering aloud about the uses for such products and as he read the information and thought about Doyle and KSD, he was overcome. He is now lying down in the Yugo with a cold rag on his forhead, resting compfortably. And this is a man who knows somethng about the behavior of old goats.
You’re welcome. Will my efforts be noted toward my goal of achieving Apostle/Profitess Grade 8 status? ‘Cause I’m really only in this for what I stand to benefit from it. Just like the WOLlers. I’m mean, fellowship, education, fraternity, congregational worship – that’s not what MOL is about, correct? Puffedupedness is the only revelant goal? BTW, Small White wishes you to tell Raheem that a prolonged nap – he’s now on hour four – in a secure place seems to have alleviated most of the trauma, although he was “talking” during a portion of his nap. That, however, turned out to be an unhappy dream involving a squirrel, a door between them, and no opposable-thumbs to facilitate egress. AP7(and holding my breath)NW
When Isabel mentioned the limo thing it reminded me that I was going to check to see what this fireplace in the car that Kathy Mai was bragging on was all about. Here you are folks, the Hummer “Flame” limousine that Gawd provided Ashley. No wonder those wicked Baptists were jealous. I think I’m going to rent one to take me grocery shopping next week.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGVwubxoNg8
Wow. I wonder if the WOLlers would approve of this???? While you’re at the store, could you pick up some milk, eggs and half and half? THanks! Oh – we’re low on lettuce…AP7NW
And for those twisted preverts out there who are wondering just how a MOLCULT Apostle knew about http://www.book22.com , let me just say that GOOGLE is an incredibly good search engine.
In the interest of said research, MOLNW CultCat was directed by his Jezebill to check out this site, so that the rest of MOL could remain undefiled in their minds, if not their souls. While the MOL coffers could probably cover the $45.00 (plus shipping and handling) to invest in a “Year of Lovemaking” kit for DDDVM and the Mrs, unfortunately, none of the “edible” products are cheese-flavored. On the plus side, however, it does not appear that teeth are required, so as long as Himself is amenable to gumming chocolate and fruit flavors, it might be worthwhile to consider investing in the alleged marriage in this manner.There are other products on the site; one notable offering is a game called “Hot Affair with Your Spouse”. It would seem pointless to invest in this, as Doyle is only interested in conducting affairs with someone else’s spouse, and those affairs are, at best, no doubt, lukewarm. Perhaps most appropriate, there is a section entitled “AIDS” (one assumes this to mean helpful devices, and not the disease process), however, Small White was blushing himself into Small Pink at that point and signed off the site. This information has been brought to you by the few, the moldy, the MOLNW, where our motto is, “We’ll suffer on your behalf and remind you of it frequently.” AP7NW
MOL CULT WARNING/THIS POST IS FOR MATURE AUDIENCES ONLY////Bob: I agree that it sounds like KSD is getting ready to spill the beans on the ‘intimacy issues’ she had with Jack. But we’ve been teased (no pun intended) with this before. You may recall that shortly after she moved in with Doyle, he went on a rant about sex toys and how he’d never heard of them before Kathleen moved in. (Later he contradicted himself and said that he’d known about them for years.) The fertile minds on this website quickly put two and two together and guessed that Kathleen had ‘confessed’ to Doyle or indulged in some pillow talk and told him some things that he was better off not knowing. And let’s get real. Even if you’re married to someone who has all their marbles there may be some things best left unsaid. Under the pretense of “Total Honesty”, should your Third Wife, WHO has been married for years, conceived and given birth to children, REALLY tell you ALL THE GORY DETAILS about what she and the Ex-husband DID? And what kind of toys were involved? And who did what to whom? And in what position? And how frequently? And how much the batteries cost? Giving someone like Doyle this information is like giving a credit card to a sailor in a liquor store. You JUST KNOW he’s going to run with it. This is the kind of knowledge that will dig into Doyle’s brain like a borer worm. He simply cannot NOT think about all the things his New Waf was doing all the years she was married. And it wasn’t like Jack said, “Hey, Kathy, how about we……?” and then she screamed and ran out of the house looking for a Cop. Nope. She was a WILLING PARTICIPANT—FOR YEARS in what she now is hinting were Jack’s deviant and twisted perversions. What else is she going to say to her new husband? “Yep, I did all those things and I LIKED them. It was HOT. And I liked the toys too.” She CAN’T say that to him because it messes with his head so she’s going to put on the Purity Raped act. “He made me do it; I didn’t want to.” If it was that bad and twisted, why didn’t she leave the first time he tried it? Or JUST SAY NO? Doyle is likely psychologically unprepared to accept the fact that his demure new little born-again-virgin Waf had a sex life with her HUSBAND. Doyle is the Double Standard Personified in so many ways and the knowledge she admitted to him is a bitter pill for him to swallow. He is really and truly ANGRY at Jack (just like he wanted Gawd to kill JR) for defiling the Waf that Gawd gave him. Then there is the physical relationship between Doyle and KSD to consider. Whatever is happening in her marriage with Doyle, the one thing it likely isn’t is HOT. He’s in his late 70s. I’m not saying it’s impossible but he has stated that he’s “dead down there” so just how exciting could it be for her? MOLCULT is looking forward to future revelations in this regard and as a gift to KSD and Doyle, we’d like to pass on the following link: http://www.book22.com a website geared to selling sex toys to the Christian couple. Enjoy. (The “Special Order” section is especially HOT and you might qualify for the Ministerial discount.)
just a reminder about d’oil and his “marriage” to lisa, i recall asking bill, the one time leader in tulsa about that, and he replied” god is just doing this to confront our selfrighteousness”, seems like that is a nice explanation coming from someone who is self righteous i guess,, so i said “well, even in the jewish tradition marriage was a happy joyous occasion, with great celebration, public, by the way”, and he said “well, i am sure someone witnessed it “,(lisa and d’oils affair), the fact is, so if anyone may not know is that, for may years while d’oil said god had joined lisa and he together, that, lisa was living with j r and their two children in a very nice two story house in an affluent section of plano, and they were on the paid staff of water of life, and had bible studies on saturday nights in their home and would troll the meetings at water of life to invite people over. they talked about how great d’oil and the gospel was. i was there… make no mistake, if d’oil is an apostle and prophet his fruit would not look like this: a string of lies and coverups over the years, absolutely NOTHING he has said has come true, from saying that denny hurley would be vindicated of child molestation (pleaded guilty to avoid prison) to saying lisa would come home, to saying terry mai would be healed. i just check in now and then to remind any people of all the lies. i am certainly not a paragon of virtue, but i assure you i dont have the pride and arrogance to broadcast that what i say is god coming out of my mouth. i want all these people to shut down their website and just worship god in their home however they like and stop portraying a big hypocritical lie and call it jesus the christ.
WOW James! you said that so well! you said exactly what I would: I’m not some “paragon of virtue” myself, but we have this in common: we’re not traveling around in jets, stealing spouses, and telling everybody else that THEY are the wicked unbelievers. James- amen and amen to what you said. blessings to you. thank you for the post.
Unfortunately it’s been sounding lately like Kathie Small is gearing up to divulging the details of her sex life with Jack to the blue chairs. I would hope that before she does that they warn the flock not to bring their kids to “church” that day, and that includes the WOL Boys. We don’t need Doyle and Kathie impairing the morals of minors with detailed descriptions of sex acts.
That’s great news that John Small and his brother managed to escape from Doyle’s clutches and are back with their dad. I only hope that Jack Small has stopped hearing voices in his head, like the one that told him to yank one of his kids off their high school baseball team. Maybe being away from Doyle will silence those voices. At least now the other WOL Boys will see that it’s possible to break away from WOL. I’d like to think that Evan Small will be the next to leave but that seems doubtful now that we learn that he couldn’t hack it away from home (and WOL) in college saying “it wasn’t of Gawd.” Maybe he tried to get the football team to bunny hop to a Terry Mai recording in the locker room before a game?
RAB,
Great post. Your description of the men of WoL is right on. I really don’t know how they can live with themselves.
I haven’t watched lately but is the younger Small boy still attending? I had read where John hadn’t been seen in weeks. It’s a blessing if both have left that awful place. I can’t understand Evan and Kristen can sit by and listen to their dad being trashed by Doyle. So very sad.
My guess is perhaps Evan may get some sort of monetary compensation for playing the drums?
Perhaps Kristen really DOES “Dance for Dollars” literally……. anything is “possible” at the wol-nut shack…..
Apparantly, Evan once had a scholarship to play football somewhere and came home shortly after saying “it wasn’t God”.
Maybe they wouldnt let him start?
Who knows what the “real” reason was, but either Evan realized, or someone convinced Evan, that he would be better off playing drums than fooball and hooking up with the Mai girls. Maybe momma Small had something to do with all of that? Drumming and boinking for dollars instead of playing football for an education?
Just speculation, but I woke up pissed this morning about the limo thing, and had to write about it. I feel better now. Not sure if I will e-mail what I wrote or not. These women are really starting to piss me off with their smug selfrighteousness. and no, it’s not the holy spirit making diviners mad. This is the Spirit in me that is sick of this nonsense. Go ahead an ruin your lives all you want, but let your kids live theirs without digging your claws in them! This talk about “teaching your kids” is more about control and doing Doyle’s will. Kathie Small gave up her kids when she chose Doyle over them and she should be made to pay child support. End of story.
Rosie,
That is wonderful news about the younger Small boys! I know people have been posting that they didn’t see John, but I thought maybe he had taken a job in the secular world, or somebody mentioned that maybe he was behind the scenes.
Was thinking well now they are without a mother’s care and then I think in the case of KSd that is probably a good thing.
I hope that they and Jack are making it okay.
Blessings!
All signs are pointing to finance troubles for old horndog doyle, which is very bad news for Basil.
Monday Night Update: In the nightly Wigglesworth reading. we were told the story of how Wigglesworth cured a man who could not sleep by telling him to go home and get some sleep. This story points out a truism that you will read into a story whatever you want to read into it. Of more significance than this was when Doyle started to speak after KSD spoke. Doyle went on a bit of a rant against fathers who do not teach their children and who DO NOT SUPPORT THEM FINANCIALLY. As we all know, when Doyle goes off on something, it is a sure sign that something is going on behind the scenes. Although we don’t know SPECIFICALLY what he is talking about, because it’s all in code, his message last night is not hard to decipher. Here is the MOL CULT Interpretation: Jack Small has backed off in terms of teaching the kids that Doyle speaks for Gawd. In fact, he’s probably telling them what an ass Doyle really is. One reads into this that Doyle is mighty upset that Jack, who has been roundly criticized from the pulpit at WOL, no longer brainwashes his kids that Doyle is an Apostle and Spokesman for Gawd. Probably even more important than that ‘lack of teaching’, Doyle seems particularly upset that Fathers don’t financially support their children. One needn’t be a rocket scientist to conclude that it is finally dawning on Doyle that Gawd may have given him a NewWaf but he hasn’t seen fit to cough up the money it takes to pay for that luxury. When Gawd gave him a New Waf, he gave him the WHOLE PACKAGE DEAL, kids included. KSD’s recent remarks about her son going to COLLEGE, and her emotional fears about it, may be telling. Likely scenario: Jack has pleaded poverty and now the boy is looking at Mom and Doyle to shell out for his education, which Doyle is none too fond of even IF he wasn’t paying for it. PREVIEW OF COMING ATTRACTIONS AT WOL: ‘War on the Home Front’ or ‘Doyle Learns About Student Loan Applications’.
I can’t say much about anything….but all I know is the kids moved out of Doyle’s house many months ago with certain urgency from Doyle…duh! Anyway, it’s up to Jack Small to teach those kids not Doyle…..no matter what Jack did in the past was because he was a victim of cult abuse and with the evil doctrine ministered to him over the many years he was there, of course the guy couldn’t do anything right….while he was there and while he wasn’t, so there Doyle take that and gnaw on it!…you have made nothing of the men there and their ba**s are checked in at the door whenever they attend that evil building. And because you are evil, God the true Heavenly Father will tell you what you have done wrong when you are begging to come in at the pearly gates….rab
Oh I forgot, you won’t be dying….sheesh! Dummy YOUR ALREADY DEAD!!!
Woo hoo!!! You tell ‘em Rosie Brucie!!!! Great comments! cp
Arghhhhh! They’re baaa—aaaaa—ck
Goes to show, no good deed goes unpunished…AP7NW
Hmmmfff
and I thought there was a miracle there- Oh well, we can keep hoping!
I hope all those statehouses don’t have to wait for a DVD like in the old days.
HEEEE HEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
too funny
I just tried to get to Doyle’s website using Firefox and got a message that the website could not be found. Hmmmm. Maybe God, the real God, had enough of Doyle & crew’s money testimonies, especially the part about how to demand money from The Almighty, and decided to give Doyle a rest.
See Bob? He really does do miracles! Amen?
Has Doyle’s website been down most of the afternoon? Maybe he’s deleting all his references to ever having been married to Lisa!comment: has anyone tried to log onto WOL using Firefox or anything other than Int. Exp.?
Bob: I just checked, it says Windows Internet Explorer can’t open the website.
There WERE some huge thunderstorms in the area- maybe that’s the problem.
Then again, maybe it’s “just the jezebel”
From Meg: Yup. It’s my Jezebel spirit here in the NW – sent down the wet, evil weather to keep him from preaching to the four corners of the (non-square) earth, doncha know. There will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth (?) tooth (?) in every statehouse, principality, munititions dump and whatever the heck else was that nonsense in his memorized opening prayer. AP7NW where our new mottos is “Jezzie Rules, Doyle Drools!”
Ahhhh- you quack me up Meg!!!
Edited and corrected my spelling typos
REV: Just wanted to point out your “fishing license” analogy.
You may not have seen it, but I said the same thing, basically. I said: “getting a license doesn’t make them married anymore than buying a pregnancy test makes one pregnant”!
Yes, Texas DOES have “common law” marriage- (thanks, Jack T. for providing the info from The Texas Family Code).
If this WERE a legal marriage between the Small woman and the “small” man (lol)… upon DD’s death (which he denies will ever happen, and far be it for me to question the Almighty) then Kathleen Small- Davidson- whatever she is, who would receive his Social Security benefits?
Nobody! Drool- Man doesn’t BELIEVE in “taking Social Security”.
So, let’s play a game of “what if”.
WHAT IF Drool does indeed die?
What will Kathie get?
I’d LOVE to hear from a Family Law expert as to what she and Mrs. Mai could have a “cat-fight” over.
Will they fight oever the furnishings of the house on Arena Drive?
Will they fight over the decorations, that Drool bought for LISA STATON? I wonder if there were any dainty hand towels engraved with “L J D” that are now stuffed away in some closet? Engraved pillow cases?
Ewwww- what fun it would be to see that!
It will be interesting to see.
Things that make ya go “hmmmm”.
Any Divorce Lawyers out there that would like to post anonymously?
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/?link=FA
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For those of you who have been listening to some of the recent ‘testimony’ at WOL and wondering: “what is the point of this?”, here is some testimony we at HQ find to be very different and considerably more valuable. It is, we believe, well worth the time spent to listen. Part One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2twMznJHc3E Part Two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pn5NZY_fQk&NR=1
When crooks like Doyle run a bunch of followers up on the stage to testify about money, it is because cash flow is down. This is a very common practice in prosperty circles to publish so called miracles and have people give testimonies about how their giving has been blessed, much like stores run sales to increase cash flow. Doyle doesn’t care about anyones health or well being except for how it affects his finances(you can bet whomever it was that recently died and had a service left old DD some money or they would still be laying in the parking lot). You will also notice he is only interested in the small donors wives because stealing them won’t make him lose much money. The Cauthorn’s seem to be exempt from wife stealing or criticism.$$$$
Aha! By that standard, MOL is flush, as the Rev hasn’t forced any of us to testify about money lately. Which means we should be able to afford plane tickets for EVERYONE to attend the Christmas bash AND upgrade from a Yugo…AP7NW
In other words, “Yell at God, DEMAND your money that you “deserve” from Him,” so you can turn around and give it to WOL, a place that may be running low on miracles AND cash? More blasphemy out of the mouths of the Wol-nuts.
Well geesh Meg. It was the only video I could find on YouTube with the “Hey Daddy, I Want A Diamond Ring” song on it. But that’s okay, go ahead and unadopt me. I wouldn’t want to be a part of any family that would have me as a member anyway.
Here’s an idea for a new dance routine for the WOL “Dancing For Dollars” dance team when asking God The Father (Daddy) for those big bucks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gkFV9-pddo&feature=related
I’m unadopting you. I found this disturbing; half clad little girls/young women doing a bump and grind. Eeeuuuwwww. Next thing you know, we’ll find out Doyle watch those baby beauty pageants. Meg
Warren Jeff’s (FDLS)trial begins today. Should be interesting to see how things turn out for him. I read a book written by the young woman who
“threw the book” at him. There are numerous parallels with WOL, and they too were the “only ones who knew the truth”.
I pray that the woman has the strength and boldness to confront her abuser and that God’s will be done in that situation.
I wonder if hell is organized by denomination, type of sin, or just by general categories of abuse – i.e. using religion as your vehicle to pervert the word of God, in which case Jeffs and Drool may be neighbors….AP79NW
The question of Doyle’s “marriage” is interesting. I’d vote NO in terms of it being a legal marriage in the eyes of Texas. I think Doyle interprets the word ‘marriage’ the way he interprets scripture, that is, rather loosely and in a way that fits whatever his preconception is. It’s my understanding that there is a time period (varying somewhat from state to state) in which a marriage can be legally performed. Obtaining a marriage license proves NOTHING. In terms of being a LEGAL/ STATE RECOGNIZED marriage, the license has to be signed by a person licensed/authorized to perform marriages and witnessed by individuals who SIGN the license. After the ceremony (as elaborate as you want to pay for) the marriage is considered valid when the completed license is recorded by the state, usually with the County Clerk where the marriage is performed. THEN it is LEGAL. Buying a marriage license doesn’t make you married any more than obtaining a fishing license makes you a fisherman. Further, obtaining a marriage license is a matter of public record and is published in newspapers. To the best of my knowledge, the actual FILING of the license and RECORDING of the marriage is not necessarily reportable, but I could be wrong about that. In the end what we have is Doyle’s word that he’s married, and you all know how reliable his word is. The Sunday programs were interesting as KSD again recounted her experience as an AQUALYTE and shared more about the circumstances of her leaving her husband. Apparently the last straw was when the dog died. I thought life began anew when the children left home AND the dog died. Again she hinted at vile and despicable behavior by Jack, but again, no details. Her linking up with Doyle was confirmed by them ending up side by side during the walking/dancing portion of the show. I’m no expert in Orbital Mechanics but several variables are in play here including musical tempo, apogee and perigee of the circles (for the ladies), the variable distance between point A and point B (for Doyle), interference from the men walking, amount of leg lag Doyle is suffering at any given point in time, how many times Doyle broke out into skipping, the number of pirouettes performed while circling, and the number of lane changes required. Taking all these factors into account, I’d calculate that it was random chance she ended up beside him on occasion. But I’m cynical. In other news, Doyle finally admitted that letters to the various TV stations caused him to be kicked off the air. Bill, or someone, is to blame for this and will burn in Hell for lying. All the letters were lies. If memory serves, contacting the TV stations was discussed on the Forum and my own impression of what happened was that the station’s management were given some background information about all that business with Lisa and the Plano Police, the cult-like nature of WOL and asked to simply WATCH some of the programs they were airing. After they DID that, they made their decisions. Doyle will certainly lay the blame off anywhere he can, but the simple truth is the TV stations took him off the air because they thought he was (is) crazy. He also briefly recounted being ‘married’ to Lisa and told his version of the story of her leaving him/”rebelling”. Needless to say, Doyle’s version of events and the report filed by the Plano Police are at variance on certain key details, not the least of which was the fact that he was drunk when he tried to choke her. Revisionist history continued as Doyle seems to have changed his interpretation of his Puritan connection. Previously Doyle touted his descent from the Puritans until he found that he wasn’t descended from the Puritans after all. Then he touted his New Waf’s descent and Kaspareit’s descent from the Puritans. He repeatedly said Gawd brought them to this country so that He could preach his Gawspel. SUNDAY he said, “Puritans were the ENEMIES OF MY ANCESTORS.” They ‘persecuted’ Samuel Gorton and tried to KILL HIM just like Doyle’s enemies have tried to KILL HIM. This Puritannical persecution of Doyle’s ancestors goes some distance in explaining Doyle’s aversion to celebrating Thanksgiving. It’s been a while since Doyle’s raging paranoia has surfaced and he was long overdue for this meltdown. Two comments concerning the weekend shows: 1. Why doesn’t Gawd put Doyle back on TV? If he can lead Kathleeen out of her marriage and arrange for a nicer limo for the grandkid, and do all this things he did for Kathleen’s sign business and get her teaching certification and teaching job for her, it seems a small thing for Gawd to arrange for some free TV airtime. I’m just asking. 2. Kathleeen indicated that she ‘hears the voice of Gawd’. Now I’m not saying she does or doesn’t. I don’t know. But when you are hearing what you believe to be Gawd talking to you and he is telling you to TOTALLY uproot your life and the lives of your children, I don’t think it’s a lack of faith to show some caution. Maybe it IS God. Maybe it is the voices in your head telling you what you want to hear. In my experience, based on patients I’ve seen, listening to the voices in your head is potentially problematic especially when you have, in your family, a rather strong history of mental illness.
I think the only attempts to “kill” Doyle have been with the rapier wits on this forum. And it hasn’t worked yet, so he has little to fear from the verbal rocks we’re throwing in his direction. Darn it. AP7NW.
Bob:
I wouldn’t be any good on that witness stand. I would have to say NO. Anyhoo, here’s the law to support what you have been saying.
From Texas Family Code:
Sec.2.201.EXPIRATION OF LICENSE. If a marriage ceremony has not been conducted before the 31st day after the date the license is issued, the marriage license expires.
Sec.2.202. PERSONS AUTHORIZED TO CONDUCT CEREMONY.(a) The following persons are authorized to conduct a marriage ceremony:
(1) a licensed or ordained Christian minister or priest;
OR…. DrRev from the MOL International Cult if he has any time on his schedule, however, goat juice is required for payment if you are in a lower income bracket, otherwise cult preachers pay extortion rates. rab
Doesn’t sound like you can sign your own license or conduct your own ceremony. Maybe Steve Brown did it.
Maybe Raheem did it? Maybe the tikki lady did a ceremony in the backyard for them? In Texas you can do anything you want according to MOL cult International….rab
Here’s some more:
Sec.2.301.FRAUD, MISTAKE, OR ILLEGALITY IN OBTAINING LICENSE. Except as otherwise provided by this chapter, the validity of a marriage is not affected by any fraud, mistake, or illegality that occurred in obtaining the marriage license.
See I told you….Marriage is not affected by any fraud, mistake, or illegality…..heh heh! did I read that right? or the way it really is? rab
Sec. 2.302. CEREMONY CONDUCTED BY UNAUTHORIZED PERSON The validity of a marriage is not affected by the lack of authority of the person conducting the marriage ceremony if:
I’m telling you this is good, marriage is not affected by the lack of authority of the person conducting the marriage….whew! I’m so glad, cause that evil man married Alan and I….so thank goodness, fraud, conman, evil, cursed….it’s all okay! rab
(1) there was a reasonable appearance of authority by that person;
I don’t know how reasonable his appearance was, he didn’t have any teeth back then either….How would you like to say that you got married by Doyle Davidson, the famous (not) cult leader in Plano with no teeth… makes you feel like going to Arkansas would have been a little more scenic…?
(2)at least one party to the marriage participated in the ceremony in good faith and that party treats the marriage as valid;
Yep, there was was at least one of us who participated in the ceremony cause I still don’t know where I was back then…rab
And some more: informal marriage (I guess common law is now obsolete as a term):
Sec.2.401. PROOF OF INFORMAL MARRIAGE.(a) In a judicial, administrative, or other proceeding, the marriage of a man and woman may be proved by evidence that:
(1) a declaration of their marriage has been signed as provided by this subchapter; or
(2) the man and woman agreed to be married and after the agreement they lived together in this state as husband and wife and there represented to others that they were married.
(b) If a proceeding in which a marriage is to be proved as provided by Subsection (a)(2) is not commenced before the second anniversary of the date on which the parties separated and ceased living together, it is rebuttably presumed that the parties did not enter into an agreement to be married.
Interesting stuff.
It’s just all a big joke….I still remember that blessed event…the stupidest wedding I’ve ever attended, but we’ve had many a honeymoons to make up for it….We did a lot of traveling back then…..hmmmm I wonder if he got mad because we traveled so much….Hey part of it was for business but mostly it was for fun…(don’t tell Doyle that…heh heh) rab
Meg – I’m probably a lot older than you so being twins seperated at birth is unlikely. We could, however, go through a blood brother/sister ceremony officiated by the Native American Jezabel Woman of Oklahoma that Doyle mentioned. Do you know her address?
I have no clue. Georgann McDuffy might do it, but that phrase she loves – Our Father and of Jesus – just strikes me like fingernails on a blackboard. Plus I don’t feel like shedding any blood, frankly. And, since I’m already a Known Jezebel, no point infecting you. Hmmm. Hey – let’s just take a page out of Drool’s book – informal adoption, or, if we say it, it is so. There y’are Bro! ROFL. Hey doesn’t this warrant adoption presents and a celebratory goat-b-cue from MOL? AP7NW
Meg – Since common law marriage in Texas is considered a legal marriage, all the divorce laws, such as splitting of property, would apply. The bigamy question would probably be a separate issue. To prove that Doyle and Lisa were man and wife, all a sharp divorce lawyer would have to do is bring about 40 of the blue chairs to the witness stand and ask them one question requiring a “yes” or “no” answer. That question: “To the best of your knowledge were Doyle Davidson and Lisa Stratton (spelling?) man and wife from 1987 to 2004? Yes or no?”
The wrap up address to the jury would go something like this: “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. You have heard the sworn testimony of 40 good Christian men and women, including the defendant’s daughter and granddaughters and elders of his church, that Doyle Davidson and Lisa Stratton were indeed man and wife for seventeen years. I therefore request that you award the plaintiff a divorce settlement of the half of Mister Davidson’s income for that time period to which she is entitled.”
Come to think of it, I’d love to see Lisa file for divorce and claim half of Doyle’s income for 17 years. Doyle would be put in a position of trying to prove that he and Lisa were NOT ever married. Now that would be funny.
Okay. That does it. You’re mind is as sick, twisted and enjoyable as mine – are we twins separated at birth? AP7NW
Someone must have told Doyle about the MOL poll on whether or not he was legally married because Sunday night he reiterated that he and Kathie have a marriage license.
I wonder if Doyle is aware that a marriage license in Texas is only valid for 30 days. It’s long expired.
However, Texas does have a provision for common law marriage, calling it “informal marriage.” To be considered legally married under this provision, the couple must:
-agree that they are married.
-live together in Texas.
-represent to others that they are married.
So it appears that Doyle and Kathie have a valid common law marriage despite the expiration of the marriage license that they got.
Sunday night Doyle also brought up Wife 2, Lisa, saying that they were together from 1987 to 2004. He said that her postings on his website prove that she knew of their relationship. If this is the case then two of the three provisions for “informal marriage” have been met.
Are there any sharp divorce lawyers here? Due to this admission from Doyle that Lisa was his common law wife for 17 years, if Lisa wants to file for a divorce isn’t she entitled to half of Doyle’s income for that 17 years? Lisa could be a rich woman and not know it.
Oh, on another topic from tonight’s “sermon” from Doyle he told of how Kathie Small had told him after she moved in that if she had any place to go she would have left him, but she had nowhere to go. Doyle kind of laughed at the fact that Gawd had trapped Kathie in this situation.
Let’s assume Drool had a common law marriage with Lisa “in the eyes of the law”. What I want to know is, how does one legally “divorce” a common law spouse in TEXAS? If he hasn’t done that, then he could be prosecuted for bigamy. Of course, this is moot because Lisa was NEVER divorced from JR, was she? It’s hard to keep up with the WOL soap opera – “As the stomach turns”. AP7NW
During Sunday night’s “sermon” he referred to KSD’s “sermon” this morning and said you’ll be able to catch it on Monday’s broadcast. Then he said you’ll be able to see tonight’s on the Wednesday’s broadcast. Wasn’t that the delayed broadcast schedule when his shows were being televised?
PICK ONE:
A. Monday Night the WOL_NUT Dancers for Dollars are getting a “night off”- so tonight is a re-run of yesterday.
B. Drool’s mind is slipping back to the days when the WOL_NUT’s were televised, and on TV… and he’s reverting back to the “old days”.
I VOTE for “B”
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well i checked in for 10 minutes tonight, heard the kathy cutup talk from wigglesworth. she has such a self assured look on her face, simply readin from a book. fingernails scraping on a blackboard has a more pleasing tone to me. so then the d’oil comes on and explains about his wives, as if anyone give a freakin rip about his second wife who became rebellious and god took her from him, he forgets to mention that at the time she was living with a husband with two kids. so the liar blooms some more. and he forgot to mention how many endured his weekly postulations that god would bring her before everyone and she would come back to him and be sorry. that was his sordid selfish veiw of the pathetic situation. so, then we hear that “kathy told me that if she had had somewhere else to go she would have”(when she came to live with him) SO, IT IS TRUE SHE DIDNT WANT TO GO WITH HIM. but he explains it away that “the power i walk in, you dont want to mess with it, your flesh will be subdued, or something like that. d’oil, you are the most pathetic excuse for a christian i have ever ever seen, and, basil getting up there and going through the same old goofy songs is just a money magnet. if it werent for the money, surely he wouldnt be there. basil the money magnet.
We have a new show: DANCING FOR DOLLARS!!!$!!
But not in the striptease sense.
If we could read the thoughts of the Mai girls: “C’mon Gawd, did you see that triple twirl? It was good enough for a pair of Rock and Republics. (those are $200 jeans, very popular with the teens and 20 somethings). I DEMAND a pair! Gawd, did you see the height, my level of enthusiasm? I am not dancing for nothing! I demand my jeans!”
I really got a kick out of Mrs. Doyle’s “sermon” this morning, where she was basically justifying her moving in with Doyle when she told of the night she was walking in circles around the chairs at WOL and noticed that every time she came around to the dancefloor side she seemed to be walking side by side with Doyle. After this happened six times or so, as a third grade teacher she realized that this was mathematically improbable. Then Gawd’s voice in her head told her it was a sign that she will be walking with this ministry (Doyle). Apparently she used this “sign from Gawd” in her decision making process to leave Jack and go with Doyle. I think we just got some insight into how a disturbed mind thinks.
I have voices in my head too. They tell me things. Like, don’t walk in circles with a tambourine. Avoid old edentulous men. Educate your children. Live modestly. You know. Those sick, perverted kinds of thoughts. AP7NW
I have to say that after all of these money testimonies from Terre Brown and Kathy Mai this week I’m a little jaded when I watch them dance now. This morning when I was watching one of the Mai girls twirling extra hard on the dancefloor, my first thought was, “I wonder how much money she’s ‘praising’ for now?”
I cast a NO vote that Doyle and Kathy Small are legally married. The old coot must have a sliver of compassion for his family, Kathy and the girls, to protect them when it comes to his estate. It probably isn’t as big as we think.
Gotta agree with David. Look. We have a TEACHER for pete’s sake, who can’t pronounce Deuteronomy and Revelations. She left her GOD-GIVEN husband for a toothless old man with money – and we don’t need to go into all the reasons she did so. She’s so blinded by the wonderfulness of Drool and all the BSO’s (bright shiny objects) he can provide that if he said ‘run naked through the sanctuary’ and told her Smith Wigglesworth had decreed it, she’d start stripping. She’s wearing a ring. Whether Doyle gave it to her, or she recycled it, she’s wearing a ring. Was there a ceremony of some kind? Probably. Were there any wicked, secular, non-WOLlers participating? Unlikely. I’m sure Drool showed her scripture and verse with some nonsense convincing her that wherever two or more or gathered, Jesus is present, and he’s enough of an authority to wed them, or some other line. Don’t get me wrong – that’s fine by me if you want Jesus to wed you. THE PROBLEM IS, in the eyes of the world, it’s not legal. And we know, of course, how much regard Drool has for the world and the authorities therein. I don’t think this is at ALL about compassion for the Mai Girls. As always, it’s all about Doyle. (He is, however quite interested in acquiring as many THINGS of the world as possible. With an eye, it would seem, to the gaudy, yet ostentatious.) So. She may be “married” in the eyes of their church, but when Doyle finally gets his toe tag, and she’s left with very little, she’s going to find that she has no legal recourse in the eyes of the world. Perhaps she and the Mai Girls can combine households and save some. AP7NW
Ok,,,, let me get this straight,,,, everything that happens in Kathy D life is some miracle of GOD? She really drawfs lowlifes like oh,,,,, Mother Teresa lol! what a bunch of “puffed up” folks! This is the biggest pile of smoldering hot smelly poop that I have ever heard. Do these people really think that other people find jobs? find money in an old pair of jeans? have good fortune come their way? These people truly live in a vacuum and are lost in doyle bs.
I guess they have never discovered the Miracle of the Couch, or the Miracle of the Dryer (much like sucking faith, those two items seem to suck up cash). I’m guessing that YOU, personally, YOU Vincent may have experienced the Miracle of the Penny on the Ground. Please – if you have, write in with your testimony now. And don’t forget to send your love offering. We’ll bless you with a picture of Raheem and his prize goat, as an assurance that Gawd loves you and wants to bless you even more – with the Nickel on the Ground. In fact, why waste time writing? Just call our prayer line – 1-800-LUV-GOAT and have your credit card number handy. And thank yew. Yew are truly blessin this ministry with your money. AP7NW
Sunday morning – the adulterers get caught up in their lies. This morning Kathie Small gave a recount of her leaving Jack. Unlike Doyle’s recent story that she was out on the street with nowhere to go so he took her in, today’s story from Kathie is that she left Jack voluntarily.
That’s the problem with lying. The longer they go on, the harder it is to remember what all one has said. Figure in grampas failing cognition and it gets dicey. So much less stressful to just tell the truth all the time. AP7NW
Cheryl – I would say that yes, Evan and Kristen Small are THAT brainwashed in WOL cult-think. If you recall at one time Kathie Small stated that the only reason Kristen was born, her only reason for living, is to worship Gawd (translate that to mean Doyle). You can bet your bottom dollar that that is how she indoctrinated these kids. They probably can’t fathom life without WOL.
Doyle made a prophecy of sorts in Pineville. He told the folks there that he isn’t going to die. That before that happens he’ll be wisked up to be with Jesus in the air (I guess he’s talking Rapture here).
Knowing Doyle’s track record for false prophecies, don’t be surprised to see Doyle drop dead in the near future.
ROFL Thanks – you get the award for making me choke on this AM’s coffee. AP7NW
Yesterday the Pineville flock got some specific “Dancing For Dollars” teaching from Doyle on how to squeeze money out of Gawd. In her sermon, Mrs. Doyle told of the Miracle Of The Cash Cowboy. It seems that at one time the bank had locked up her accounts for some reason and she didn’t have money to buy groceries. So she went out into a parking lot, looked up to the sky and told (didn’t ask) Gawd that if her and Jack had screwed up they would fast but “You’re going to feed my kids.” A little while later a cowboy walked in and and paid her cash to have some signs made.
Then when Doyle got up he instructed the flock that if they want money from Gawd they have to “stand up in Gawd’s face” and demand “Where’s my money?” He told them that begging or pleading with Gawd doesn’t work.
Ah. I keep my money in the BOG. (Bank of God). And He’s a teller? Nope. Visual doesn’t work for me. AP7NW
Cheryl – I’ll cast a “No” vote in the “Are They Legally Married” poll.
That’s right, Jack. I heard people refer to Kia’s as disposible cars. Everyone that I know who has had one has only good things to say about them.
I must have missed that fairy tale growing up, as I have no clue what you are talking about. But glad you are out of hiding once again.
My parents have been driving old cars for many years. My dad has an old El Camino he hauls his woodworking projects around in, and they live in an upper class nightborhood. He is not embarrassed to park it next to my mom’s 10 year old Forrester.
I remember the days when I thought that I was raised in a spirit of poverty. My parents were wealthy, but never flaunted it. They were very generous but not extravagant, and I looked down on their “dead works”, and blamed the fact that they were Catholic as to the reason why they didn’t buy large quantities of “stuff” and gave much to help others.
Now I realize that they just didn’t have all of those “things” in their hearts, and were not impressed with designer labels or fancy gadgets.
They too could have had a new Cadillac every year, but they were never out to keep up with the Davidsons. They had more important things to do, like raise their kids to appreciate and work hard for what they had, instead of manipulating people to give to them while convincing them it was their idea.
Many people gave to WOL to impress Doyle with their “great” faith. Doyle knows this, and loves to quote about the wealth of the heathen going to the righteous. Those “heathens” are usually the “wicked unbelievers” sitting in those blue chairs. He calls them that to their faces, and they STILL give!
So, now that K.Small has her big Caddy, is she really happy?
Not even that fake smile of hers can hide the truth. How can anyone be happy trading in their family for a piece of metal with leather seats?
Or an old man with no teeth?
OH MY! how beautiful your daughter and grandson are! Of course look at their MOM and you can see why!
Isabelle, it’s been a long road for a lot of us, but isn’t it exciting to be where we are instead of where we could be? Just think about that for a minute and realize how AWESOME GOD is for loving us enough to let us see what was happening and to let us make a choice a GOD given choice to leave that rat hole….God bless you sweetie……… Alan and I love you! rab
Just an INFORMAL POLL:
How many FORUM PEEPS honestly, truly believe
that Doyle Davidson and Kathie Small are LEGALLY married?
The reason I ask, is: someone mentioned that a “license” was applied for, but it’s NOT legal, until the marriage is performed and signed by a clergy member, and returned to the County Clerk.
Just getting a “License” does not make one married,
anymore than buying a pregnancy test make one pregnant.
I for one, vote “NO”.
Kathy Jane Davidson Mai is his only “heir”. I would think there would be s big stink, if Kathie Small were to inherit ANYTHING that belonged to Mrs. Mai and the Mai Girls.
Also- just the other night, Doyle introduced Kathie Small as “Kathie D”- quote. He still calls Lisa Staton “LisaD”
IF SHE IS HIS LEGAL WIFE- why wouldn’t he say “Kathie DAVIDSON is going to come and speak”
???
What say ye, Forum?
Cheryl
albert collins passed away several years of cancer, they say he still drove his van to gigs and played music until he was unable anymore. just a guy playin guitar. it is a strange world in which we live. i can still play. hope to see you all in december. iceman, by albert collins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja5XgnZTkII
CP:
I remember the ring thing the same way you do. Not surprising, though, that doyle is not following his own teaching with his new honey. Thats the way it is with everything. What a sham.
My ex husband was like that – one set of rules for him, one set for the rest of the world…which is why he became “ex”
AP7NW
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Thanks, JackT: at least I have my memory!!!
I appreciate the confirmation….
I have pictures, from back in the 80’s, where DOYLE
was wearing his wedding band- when he was married
to his only legal wife: Patti Davidson!
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Rosie: Breathe. I plan on sending down some regional goodies for the party. If I’m feeling very puffed up by then, I shall send along a life-size cutout you can stand up somewhere! Otherwise, you’ll have to make due with the one photo you have of me…ROFL
Since Meg has COMPLAINED about the fact that Raheem and I have been derelict in teaching, I want to announce that I am planning a series of readings based on the adventures of Uncle Wiggily. Uncle Wiggily Longears, you may recall, is the main character in a series of children’s books and is an engaging elderly rabbit (much like yours truly),lame from rheumatism who walks with the aid of a candy-striped cane. Uncle Wiggily is often pestered by a rhinoceros-like creature named Pipsisewah (two horns, beady eyes, pointed hat, cow-tail, and walks upright on two legs—Kind of a Big Red for MOLCULT.) He is normally accompanied by the crow-like Skeezicks (Ms. Winky?) but they rarely get into anything other than harmless mischief. There are several other “bad” characters in the sermons: Woozy Wolf (too obvious), Bushy Bear,Skillery Skallery Alligator and, of course, Bobcat. They are all bent on nibbling the ’souse’ off Uncle Wiggily’s ears, but he always escapes ususally with the help of some implement he has purchased at a store while on an errand for his housekeeped Nurse Jane Fuzzy Wuzzy. He once, for example, avoided being eaten by Skillery Skallery Alligator but pushing his umbrella down Skills throat and opening the umbrella, thereby preventing his jaws from closing. Uncle Wiggily has many adventures with friends he encounters in the neighborhood, Sammy Littletail (another rabbit) and Nettie Stubtail (a friendly bear cub) to name a couple. A recurring theme in the readings will be when Uncle Wiggily is found helping out one of his friends who are in some kind of predicament, like when they can’t afford to rent a nicer limo. If the series goes well, we shall study in depth the story in which Uncle Wiggily and Thumper, a cute young female bunny, go on a “camping trip” which is R rated and not for the kiddies. Are you happy now, Meg?
Actually, I’m worried, since mum in her dotage, has been periodically referring to me as “Nurse Jane Fuzzy Wuzzy” and right now, I have enough on my plate w/o taking on housekeeping for some dotty old rabbit…Couldn’t Raheem come up with a nice story about goats for me and Normal Jane? Meg
Meg:
Christmas 2010? If you won’t come to us, I guess we’ll all hafta come to you. Unless you decide to bring the jam this year instead of sending it? Inquiring minds back at cha.
Meg is REFUSING to come this year so I guess I’ll have to give her a little Heck for not coming…I hope all of you nice people help me as well….Meg, you asked below about why Terre and Steve didn’t wear wedding rings…I actually commented on that a while back, but it’s just one of those Doylism’s that got picked up…I a