Raheem and His Friend Abdul Ahmad Akbhar Alhalalal Davidson (No Relation To The Dope In Plano) have a nice little camp out with their goat named “Entree’” and Plenty of Goat Sauce….
Photo Courtesy of Our Meg
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With All The Traveling Everyone Is Doing……
Courtesy Photo: Our Most High Profitess Meg…
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Lisa has not returned.
JR is not dead.
John has not been concieved.
He has been forced off TV.
His “Apostles” have denied him or have been accused of child molestation.
He has attempted to steal the wives of 2 church members,one while he was still married himself.
Doyle called Jack Small a Prophet until he stole his wife and children,now he says Jack is evil.
He told a sick woman not to take her medicine,a baby is now dead.
Lisa did not go to Isreal,even tho doyle said GOD told him she would go with him.
Photo Courtesy of Our Meg
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v. 21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD ?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.
Wednesday Night Update: When Doyle launches into his ‘the law is not made for a righteous man’ spiel, you can bet he’s justifiying the fact that he’s again broken one or more of the Ten Commandments and is pre-emptively telling the Wollers (or anyone who might call him on it) that the Law doesn’t apply to him. Doyle’s talk last night was another of those in which he totally twists Biblical teachings. No wonder the Wollers sit their with a look on their face like they’ve just been tazered. They are supposed to process the following concepts: The Old Testament Law that God gave to Moses on Mount Sinai doesn’t apply anymore to a righteous man. But didn’t Jesus say he came not to destroy, but to fulfill? Now not to trivialize God’s Law, but Doyle’s spin is like saying that because you don’t speed in your car, there’s no longer a law against speeding for YOU. This is patent nonsense, but Doyle has confused the Wollers with this gibberish for so long that he can use his ‘law doesn’t apply’ thesis to justify ANYTHING HE WANTS TO JUSTIFY and the remaining cult members swallow it whole without chewing. Another wacko interpretation: Gawd/Jeezuz ‘annointed’ Joshua to kill 31 kings and everyone associated with them and because Gawd/Jeezus is the same yesterday, today and forever, Gawd/Jeezuz could, if he wanted to, annoint somebody, a General maybe, to KILL the Governors of the 48 or 50 states and EVERY WHO LIVES THERE. Doyle seemed to be saying that if Jeezuz (I spell it like that because it certainly doesn’t sound like the teachings of the New Testament Jesus) wanted to KILL THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE UNITED STATES (Pilgrim descendants as well) it would be entirely consistent with his Old Testament behavior. The needle on Doyle’s record stuck as he repeatedly asked if that would “offend you?” Well, since he asked, YES. I think most non-psychotic people would find rather offensive the idea that the entire nation would be annihilated by some wacko who thought he was ‘annointed by Gawd’ to do it. We have no evidence that Jesus committed or sanctioned mass killings, in spite of what Doyle teaches. Such behavior would be in direct contradiction to the known teachings of Jesus. Historically Jesus pointedly DID NOT align himself with the ZEALOTS who called for armed insurrection against the occupying Romans. Doyle, you are proud of the fact that you can read. Maybe you should read some actual HISTORY. Which brings us to the thorny problem of ANNOINTING. How do we know if someone is annointed to kill all of us? Or annointed for anything for that matter? Is a person annointed because they SAY THEY ARE? What if a person thinks they’re ‘annointed’ but in reality that person is (like Doyle) CRAZY? Isn’t it INHERENTLY CRAZY that God would ‘annoint’ someone to wipe out human life in the US or on the planet? In reality, Doyle’s teaching/’interpretation’ is just an extension of his own preoccupation with Death, Dying and his Angry Gawd. It says A LOT about Doyle’s own psyche and nothing about how a Loving God cares for his children. On a somewhat related point, the question was raised (by Medic) about whether Doyle does this for attention and money. In a word, yes; but that’s not the whole of it. Doyle is at the point of End-Stage Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He is dangerously near the point (it he isn’t there already) at which he believes he has become One with Gawd. He slipped up the other night and actually said that he thinks HIS thoughts and Gawd’s Thoughts are one and the same. This is gloriously delusional thinking. Consequently it is only right and proper that the Wollers shower their money on him. He has said that Gawd keeps some of them there only because he needs their money. Who needs the money: Gawd or Doyle? In Doyle’s mind, it’s the same thing. Likewise, the need for attention. Have you all noticed that when the Wollers ‘worship’ Gawd, it is highly choreographed and that the ‘worship’ CENTERS AROUND DOYLE? Doyle doesn’t ‘join in’ the worship. He calls the shots about who does what and when or prohibits them from doing it at all. He’s even doing it more loudly and intrusively of late. Is it just me or do any of you get the sense that what’s going on there is Doyle-Worship more than worshipping anything else? It’s all about control. That’s what cult leaders do. What good is it being one if you can’t CONTROL your followers? And if you HAD followers, wouldn’t you want to be worshipped by them? To borrow a phrase from Mel Brooks, “It’s good to be the King.”
So, having an excess of time on my hands, I googled Drool’s McMansion on Arena drive. How appropriate – the brick facade only extends part way around the house. Perfect, for a guy with a spiritual facade…
OK, I’m going to get technical here.
Tell me if I am wrong:
Didn’t Jesus say, that if a man divorced his wife and married another woman, the man is called an ADULTERER?
(Same for women, I would assume).
Jesus said: unless the wife had committed fornication.
Ok: I was married before- my husband divorced me, I remarried. My husband NOW was married before also.
Let’s say the people don’t have the “fornication” loophole so to speak….
( I DID… my first husband was messing around, I have PROOF)- never the less…
This verse bothered me a LOT.
But the point is: even w/o the fornication clause, NO ONE THAT IS A BELIEVER in Jesus Christ need feel condemned.
Jesus died for Adultery, just like any other sin.
IE; what sin did Jesus NOT die for?
CAVEAT: I AM IN NO WAY CONDONING OR APPROVING WHAT DOYLE AND KATHIE SMALL ARE DOING! DOYLE WAS IN ADULTERY WHEN HIS FIRST WIFE PATTI WAS STILL ALIVE~
and until he truly repents, God will hold him acccountable for that, as well as all the OTHER women he’s dallied with over the years.
Doyle and Kathie Small cannot marry for 30 days from the final divorce, July 14th- so now, they are in a state of FORNICATION. Even if DD wanted to marry her, (which I still say, HE WONT- they can’t marry till around Aug.14th.
Gross- it just makes me gag to even write about this stuff. I need a hobby! LOL!
Cheryl
Well unless they get the time period waived by a judge, they can get married sooner than that….I know….rab
Very interesting article. I think this Alamo fella and DD fell out of the same nut tree…
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,533152,00.html?test=latestnews
Welcome Texan… I’m Cheryl , one of the Moderators. I am a SURVIVOR of Doyle Davidson’s “church” (cult shack), as is my biological sister Lisa H.
Tony Alamo is a freak, of course, too- he was more into the money scamming end of it- the authorities have been after him on and off for years. Remember the Denim Jacket scam he had going on- I think that was in the 1970’s.
Anyway- Welcome to the Forum! Feel free to post anything you want, we just ask that you keep it “PG”
How do you know about Water Of Life and Doyle?
How did you find this website?
We ask all newbies that question>>>>> it’s so interesting the answers we get!
Blessings,
Cheryl
Burnout?
I tried to watch the Wednesday night farce after somebody mentioned that there was a new guy in the audience. Even with the sound off, I could tell that Doyle was snockered–when he paces around, remonstrating with everyone, that is a giveaway. I turned the sound up and he was wailing about “not made for a righteous (yeah, right, like he’d know) man. I couldn’t watch it. I know many of you have gotten to that place before me.
I felt as if I were a voyeur in an insane asylum. <<<<——–
AMEN to that, Norma! I am not usually able to watch it live- so I depend on the Forum Peeps to subject themselves to the TORTURE of watching it.
PS: a good “sign” that he’s had at least a COUPLE of snorts, is that he leans on empty chairs- he was even leaning OVER the back of one last night-
Can’t fool US, DD! ~ cp
Al, interesting point of view! It certainly makes some sort of sense. Maybe this was his avenue to get the attention and money he so craves. RevDr, what do you think?
I watched the Wednesday replay today. It was nothing but a pointless drunken tirade. How can those people sit there, wasting their lives listening to that sorry old man?
Al
Hi folks, your friend Al the Atheist here.
It’s my studied opinion that Doyle Davidson doesn’t believe in God any more than I do. I contend that he is a heavily-closeted nonbeliever, simply pretending to believe for professional and personal reasons.
The crucial difference between Doyle and me is that I have a conscience and Doyle Davidson does not.
I also try to cultivate a loving heart. I see no evidence that Doyle Davidson has ever done that.
I hate seeing weak and/or ignorant people being used and abused, but that’s Doyle Davidson’s bread-and-butter.
Doyle Davidson is a walking lie with a dead soul.
Al
Truer words were never spoken, my friend. Thanks! Meg
Hey Al: I really like your posts- you’ve got DD pegged really well.
“Spirituality/Religion– and “Morality” and how we treat others aren’t always intertwined, are they? Have a good day Al! Post more, when you can!
Cheryl
Uh- DD is still living in sin since the divorce, just a different kind of sin. Wouldn’t it be called fornication? Brings to mind what Jesus said to the woman at the well.
IF DD takes Kathie Small to California, will it be called “Californication”? CP
yeah isabel hagin carried on like that for years,, there was a “laughing” spirit that went through tulsa for a long time,, i also recall hagin telling a story about a guitar player up on the stage and the service ended, everyone went to the fellowship hall and he didnt come, so hagin said he went back in to the sanctuary and there was the guitar player, he was in a trance, so hagin said he went over and got him out of the trance and everything was fine again,, amazing
Rosie,
I think being a Fornicator sounds even dirtier.
Hope you find some comfort in that.
Grins,
NJ
thank you cheryl p for posting the singer,, that is amazing, i love her voice and the energy,, it is not weird to me,, on another note, i ws reading through john 13-17 and was reminded of this “consecrate them in the truth, your word is truth for their sakes i consecrate myself, that they may also be consecrated in the truth.” i have seen no ongoing work of this at water of life, but only lies and halftruths,, things being kept hidden, then later coming to light, i would like to know what anthony reece and the hurleys have to say about that. i am no scholar of the bible, but , that is what jesus and the spirit of god is doing these days,, sanctifying people in the truth of what god has said concerning his son jesus christ.
Ok bible theologians. Since Kathi is now formally divorced and still shacking up (a term Doyle likes to use at times), do we now call this activity “fornication” which is also a sin like adultery?
Kathi, how in the world do you face your children after what you have done to your family? BTW, anyone seen Jack Small’s sister, Paula? Also, still trying to figure out why the remaining Ferguson daugher and her family are still there. She must really like the spotlight on dancing.
Which begs the question, why is it shacking up if everyone else does it, but marriage (i.e. waff) if Doyle does it? Meg
I guess with Kathie Small’s divorce Doyle is no longer a current adulterer, his adultery is now in the past. As of two days ago he’s a swingin’ old preacher who is shackin’ up with a younger woman, a wild and crazy divorcee.
So I guess we can call him a “HASBEEN ADULTERER”? Really, the damage is done Doyle…..God has a very good memory and just because she is no longer married, do you think for one moment WE and GOD will forget what you have done? Don’t be scared about us remembering EVERY STEP you have taken…., but be scared that GOD is going to be asking you why you thought you were different given you were only a man, and that HE did not send you to preach YOUR OWN GOSPEL….NOW naw on that and think about it? Need some beef jerky?rab
Ok lets start tracking idiot boys predictions, he said “I dont believe that Judge Sotomayor will not be confirmed” I’m predicting she will because a grasshopper looked at me this morning while I was having coffee on my patio. I think he was trying to tell me that God said Sotomayor would be confirmed. Im just sayin,,,, and why cant he pronounce peoples names? you would think he would want to sound intelligent right?
Vincent – Drool’s standard of edemication seems to be fixated at 5th grade. At least that’s what he frequently screams at the WOLlers. Certainly this is born out by his latest “waff’s” pronunciations. It’s interesting to consider that perhaps Kathie could have avoided being married to him had she only taught Jr. High. I digress. Drool doesn’t need to sound intelligent – he’s been sent by God, and God trumps all. Further, he can’t pronounce people’s names because of the physical difficulties with just forming words (bad teeth, cognitive decline, possible TIAs ) as evidenced by his constant wiping at the corners of his mouth. And he’s sliding into dementia. The good news is, his sheeples don’t question him, so it’s just those of us on the outside (statehouses, principalities, administrations, etc) who look at our screens and laugh. Meg
James, thanks for reminding us of the lunacy that sometimes invades Charismatic ranks. If this is the work of the Holy Spirit, then I will pass. The scripture says the HS was given to lead us into all truth and to point us to Christ. I had seen this clip before and in no way does this bring honor to Christ. It’s disgusting to say the least. You want to talk about flesh…well, this is flesh plain and simple just like what happens at WoL with people bending, shaking, coughing, screaming, etc. It “ain’t” got nothing to do with God. As someone pointed out, this is learned behaviour.
At least they were laughing and having a good time! When has that happened at WOL????? I know our minister can really get us laughing sometimes and it sure beats being screamed at, doesn’t it??
I just watched the video and was thinking what you’d already written. You know they were feeling better after the “service” with all the endorphins floating around! Meg
WOW! this makes WOL look TAME! I never knew Kenneth Hagin was this wacky…
OH MY GOODNESS! This is scary that other preachers are worse than Doyle, but man is Kennth Hagin weird….. too? Has men hold him and walk with him as he is doing his witchcraft spells on them…..EEEK!!!
Lord forgive me for not understanding all these people…I can’t understand why they no longer believe your word.
Are they all just wanting to be seen of men? Is the power they see they have gotten by conning and lying to people made them blind in seeing your will? Lord, I bless these people and believe that at some point you will show them how evil they all are.
I especially understand that even the fact that Doyle has asked himself “whether he was wrong” was a small inclination of the light trying to shine on his dark world and when he heard from his GAWD of this world “NO”, he was relieved to know that he is to continue in his adultery, extortion, lying, killing and more for his GAWD’s sake…you see Doyle, God is waiting for you to repent!…
We bless all the blind zombies in his congregation and understand that they have a will as God did give us that and will just have to open their eyes and see the mess they are in. Amen rab
sad sad sad that this man is allowed to teach anything and especially as dangerous as religion,,,,, how long will this guy live?
by the way, what she is singing, translated means:
Im nin’alu daltei n’divim daltei marom lo nin’alu
Even if the gates of the rich will be closed, the gates of heaven will never be closed.
She’s dead, some say murdered, some say by HIV.
Nevertheless, she was a famous Yemenite Israeli model. Here she is wearing traditional Yemen costume- no she didn’t always dresss like this
And if you watch CLOSELY you will see Raheem and some of his goats in the video! I kid you not.
Cheryl
OK: I hear it now (”she’s weird”) LOL
Oh, Forum…. now you will know how weird I am.
I really do like traditional Israeli music. No, NOT Barbra Steisand singing “Yentl”
Here’s a couple of links to YOU TUBE that I find unusual and exquisite.
dang thanks cheryl, you are way too cool,, i am just a blues geetar player,, this is my latest, my dallas girlfriend thinks its cool,, ( she is a former catholic and is very thankful to the lord for what we have) “mean old world” old t bone walker tune can i play? i love you all my friends,,,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7ZEBCw2tTo
OHHHHHHHHHHH, Man….. that’s my second favorite genre of music! I love the blues!
First favorite? Um…. If I tell people ya’ll will think I’m “weird”…..
OK, go ahead and laugh, Peeps…. I started listening to this CERTAIN type of Middle Eastern music… (no not Hindu stuff) when a friend of mine introduced me to some videos of a Yemenite singer, who has now passed away. If I can find her on You Tube, I’ll post a link.
But- the Blues? They rock, James!!! Cheryl
What a total waste of time tonight. The man can’t string two solid thoughts together. Let’s see now. How many times did he use the “whore” word? At least three maybe four…lost count. I wonder when Jenny’s little girl will ask, “Mommy, what is a whore”? The man is demented, mean, vulgar. He said if you believe my doctrine, we both will be saved. If you don’t, you will go “DOWN, DOWN, DOWN”. Yeah right Doyle. Your doctrine is insignificant. You are insignificant.
Seems I recall when LisaH put that soundboard up, old DD was recorded as saying: “She(Staton) can’t get any lower. H#ll, she’s already as low as she can go. She can’t get any lower”.
Hmmmm. Does DD think anyone really believes that if we believe his “doctrine of demons” we’ll be saved?
Pfft- I’d rather crawl in the low dust with Staton than be UP anywhere with Drool.
I’m being facetious…. too late, Drool…. We on this Forum are ALREADY saved- no thanks to you. YOU don’t save anybody. You’re only able to make people two or three times the child of hell you yourself already are!
Kathie: now honey, you sweet little Kept Woman, make sure you read this to your Old Man just the way we write here, okie dokie? And make sure when you’re out there doing your pagan dancing, you hold that left hand out there, just right, nice and stiff, like you are directing traffic, ya hear, Sweetie?
Cheryl
OooooooH, I’m getting a (look at me) feeling and I feel I have a prophecy that may or may not come true…bear with me (as my eyes are rolling back) and my arms are flying all over the place and my legs have literally collasped (this of course was all LEARNED BEHAVIOR) I hope I remember some of this stuff, don’t want to upset the old jezzy…cause there were special lessons from Doyle after hours and he didn’t let JUST ANYBODY take these secret lessons with him….so I’m sure the legs shaking at the same time they are collasped will come any minute now…okay…I predict, no sorry, is that you GAWD or GOD? Test the spirits (I say to myself) Okay, is that you? Hello?
Hey I just got a busy signal???? what the !@$%^^~!!
Do I have to start all over ….
Regarding Kathie Small’s divorce, I seem to recall in one of her past testimonies that bad things happened to those folks who told her not to marry Jack. I think she hinted that it was like a Gawd punishment thing. Well, it appears they were right afterall. I guess Gawd goofed.
would somebody PLEASE get a rag and stuff it in that sick demented nasty old man’s mouth?
a k%tex would work just fine in my opinion
Amber
how about a nice man’s used sock, after he’s worked out in the HOT TEXAS SUN all day? That should do the job, don’t you think? LOL ~ cp
seriously, people, i mean, really.
what a freakazoid.
the wol boys get up on stage to get ready
to sing and do their terry mai singing
and the old toothless goat stands right
there!! in front of these boys and is
YELLING AT THEM like some kind of drill sgt.
i cant really hear all hes saying but the
same b/s like thank gawd! aben! prasie gawd!
but yelling right at them.
whacked, totally whacked. the whole lot of them.
Amber
Rev. said,
“Meg, Terry’s death is beginning to look like a good career move.”
Will you STOP! Or put up warning flags. BAGROFLOL
I hope I got the quote exact; can’t cut and paste.
The last couple of weeks I’ve been hearing screaming “Praise Gawd” cheerleading coming from the blue chairs. Can’t see who the screamers are because the cameras never show them. Seems to be one male and a really loud-mouthed female who matches Doyle’s “Praise Gawd’s” when the WOL Boys are on stage. Is this something new or have I just not noticed it in the past?
Cheryl – Could be he’s a hit man. Maybe the East Coast mob bosses got word of Doyle’s anti-Italian preachings and want to make Doyle an offer he can’t refuse.
Poor guy looks more like “Fredo”, with the same kind of smarts ….
Shoulda sent Michael or Sonny! cp
bada-bing, bada boom!
I know most of you folks know each other from the mother church(Plano),however Doyle did just as much damage at the motel churches. I have probably seen some of you at Joplin or Springfield between 95 and 2000. Since everyone was afraid to speak to anyone else we never met. Doyle got alot of money from these churches(and me) and you can bet that is the reason why he flew in. Doyle is very flattering to the big givers. My wife and I were sick of the word of faith movement and started listening to Doyle on TV and got his Romans tapes and thought he was the real deal. We left just before the Lisa thing became public. I just couldn’t get past his claim that “God promised me a ministry like his son Jesus”. That sounded like blasphemy
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“Sounded”?
Doyle blasphemes the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit and the Written Word of God- EVERYTIME HE OPENS HIS FOUL FILTHY MOUTH! cp
ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!
Doyle has a “new” man, he’s bald on top, moustache, sitting next to him is a younger girl.
Doyle asked him a question, the guy was smart enough to shake his ignorant head YES in agreement with Drool the Fool!
Hm…. wonder where this guy came from and how he stumbled into the snake-pit. Scary… I want to YELL through the monitor: RUN, RUN, RUN while you can!
Cheryl
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Hopefully, now that the “shouting” is going on, the tip-toeing through the tulips dancing, and the shouting will confuse the man enough to RUN and get the H&&& out of there, before DD covets this guy’s wife, if he has one…. or better yet- steal the man’s MONEY!!!!
Pray for him- that he leaves~ cp
Meg: Terry’s death is beginning to look like a good career move.
Yup. That was my thought. Meg
I forgot to give the Tuesday Night Update which focused on Judge Sotomayor. Doyle didn’t want to watch the news but did because he ‘felt it was right’. Judge Sotomayor is, according to Doyle, a bullish woman, a bully and therefore a coward. For a minute Doyle sounded sympathetic to the Judge because of the lashing she took from Senator Lindsay Graham in the confirmation hearings. But Doyle recovered enough to remember that he is opposed to Judges even more than he opposes Senators. Actually Doyle is opposed to everyone, although he was somewhat attracted to Sarah Palin. I wonder why? He probably visualizes her with a tambourine whirling around him in a circle. But I digress. Doyle said that he doesn’t believe Judge Sotomayor will have her nomination to the Supreme Court confirmed BUT he carefully avoided saying that Gawd had revealed that to him. Doyle seems to hedge a bit on prophecy these days after the President John McCain debacle. But the Wollers would know what he meant. He obviously has a deep, visceral hatred for Judge Sotomayor who is in Doyle World the worst combination possible: A JEZEBEL, a WOMAN, an EDUCATED woman, a JUDGE, a NON-CAUCASIAN and a Bullish COWARD. She probably has horns and a pitchfork as well. If Doyle were for some reason (let’s just say fraud) hauled before her Court, it is interesting to speculate if he would have the stones to call her to her face what he called her over the Net. Let me think about that-uh-NO. But he doesn’t think she’ll get confirmed to the Court which is an interesting message from Gawd since the Democrats CONTROL Congress and her confirmation is a foregone conclusion that even the Republicans. concede. And there was no mention of Mrs. Small’s divorce being finalized.
Daggone it, heads up peeps. He changed the prayer again. I hate it when he does that. Just throws out my whole reciting rhythm. I’m not going to do this word by word – I have to spend some time with the kidlet. Oooooo. Tonight’s subject, “the law (of moses) is not made for a righteous man”. His needle’s stuck on “do you know that? Do you know that? Do you know that?” Oh lawsy. I just wanna kick him? All in a monotone….it’s like chinese water torture. I haven’t listened for weeks. And now it’s making my hair hurt….
Wow – Terry’s site has even more posts! I guess now that he is no longer playing Ed McMahon to Doyle’s Johnny Carson, he is able to grow his ministry. What does it say, that I’d rather watch the preachings/teachings/and annoying singing of a dead man, than listen to Drool’s whacko rants?
Boyd and David: if you scroll down, under Norma’s post, you will see what I have to say—- I was Blue Chair Screamer, and REV and Steve L are 100% correct.
Boyd and DAvid, you guys are right on the money!
Cheryl
Boyd,
I have never heard it put like you described but it really makes sense as I look back over my Pentecostal/Charismatic church experience. For some reason, this church style attracts the spiritual weirdos. I have often said, church is not a place for people to show off their so-called spiritual gifts. Some treat the church like their personal spiritual playground where anything goes…”The Holy Spirit made me do it”. No He didn’t! The Apostle Paul gave us the pattern, decency and in order…you remember that fruit of the spirit called “self control”. WoL has their share of “Look at Me and Listen to Me” demons. Terre, Kathi, you do crave that attention of Doyle’s. You have taught your children and grandchildren well. NOT! You have zero self control.
The demons you see at WOL are LAM(look at me!) devils. This pesky devil is a cousin to the LTM(listen to me!)devil you run into in charismatic churches, where people blurt out sounds(tongues) that no one can understand. Once these devils get the attention of the head devil(Doyle the short dope)and sometimes the camera, then their mission is accomplished. aben! These devils will go away when the short dope does and the cameras are turned off.
Have you ever wondered why these devils don’t show up at the grocery store? After all there is plenty of tissues available.
REV:
WOW…. if I didn’t know better, I would say you’ve been “reading my mail” so to speak!!!
What you wrote fits WOL to a “T” and more importantly, it fits ME to a “T”…. the old WOL me- Not the person I am today.
What you wrote is EXACTLY what happened at WOL… and I fit your profile hook line and sinker!
This is why I am so thankful I have escaped that evil wicked place.
Thank you-
Personally, between what you wrote and what Steve L linked us to…. I couldn’t be more thankful right now.
God bless you both- and I say that SINCERELY
Cheryl P.
i followed d’oil and anthony reece and the hurleys for ten years. i also was laid off from my job at a cement plant where i worked shift work for 20 years. my wife and i divorced just before i started listening to water of life stuff, i was just seeking god, as i have been most of my life. things are much better now. today i watched oprah winfrey, she had a lutheran minister who had been a pastor for 30 years and he was very upset because of the economic stuff, i am not sure, maybe he had lost a lot of money in the stock market,, at any rate, the message, that i have been hearing inside myself for a long long long long time is, be thankful and look at what you have and not what you had. cheers from kansas and two big thumbs up for getting away from the d’oil nonsense,, see ya,, and also, i may be movin to dallas in the future!,, then again, maybe it will be a while,, j in k
James, your post really touched me:
going thru a divorce, you needed loving concerning supportive Believers around you, but sadly you got the second rate Wollers.
No matter- because you come across as a very kind, concerned, gentleman that one day some very blessed woman will find- you are too much of a gifted person, and there ARE women who will appreciate a man like you. Plus- you are a gifted musician!
You touched my heart with your post, James…. many, many blessings to you today and all days ahead!!!
You are a big contributor to this Forum, and we CARE!!!!
Blessings and shalom,
Cheryl
DEFINITION OF AN “OXYMORON”- courtesy of Steve L:
“A deliverance ministry that leads you into bondage”
Wow!
Cheryl
Interesting comments on demonology as it applies to WOL.
Sometimes when I look at the “sobbing women” I think I am looking at attention seeking. And sometimes I think I see women who must be frustrated enough to spit nails and that it is a big release of tension.
Since a lot of them are immediately able to get up and dance, I don’t believe it is involuntary.
And I could be flat-out wrong.
I like that about the Forum–one doesn’t have to be 100% sure of anything to post. At least I don’t. I should not speak for the rest of you.
No worries, Norma! You are absolutely correct. While I wouln’t say they were out and out “faking”… by NO MEANS is this whole DEMON THING “REAL”!
CP
I”ve BEEN THERE, DONE IT, GOT THE T SHIRT!
I would say it’s a “learned behavior”- again I use Pavlov’s Dog as an exmaple.
And YES: Doyle’s approval DOES come into play in this.
Do I feel guilty? Not any more!
Was I a fool? YOU BET
Was I mentally ill? Defined as “depression”- YES
Was I crazy? Not legally insane, but surely using bad judgement and DESPERATELY seeking male approval.
Am I any where near the same person today as when I was a WOL-Nut?
NO WAY!!!!
That is why my husband and I are involved with the type of ministry we are- it’s the POLAR opposite of WOL….. Family oriented, friendly, caring, loving, Staff INTEGRITY, Accountable to everyone…. need I go on?
A MOL CULT ESSAY ON ‘DEMONS’: Steve Lumbley’s link about demonic possession/exorcism was interesting. In spite of my self-proclaimed title, I’m not really much of a theologian so let me give a few thoughts about this topic in a more ’secular’ vein. It seems to me that many, if not all, of the manifestations of ‘demonic possession’, especially at WOL, are manifestations of one type or another of mental illness. From time immemorial, abberant behavior was frequently attributed to ‘demons’. In the absence of any other explanation, it was at least an explanation that people could relate to in terms of the behaviors they were seeing. Neuroscience has come a long, long way in 2,000 years but a FULL understanding of the way the mind works will, IMHO, continue to elude mankind. There are just too many variables to allow for consistent predictability of human behavior. Even the ‘evil’ Catholics have deemphasized demonic possession as a root cause of Evil as understanding of these conditions has deepened. Exorcisms are rarely even talked about and even more rarely performed. Doyle would no doubt agree with that and say that it is evidence of Catholic ignorance, but Doyle is stuck in the intellectual Dark Ages. We can say a few things with a degree of certainty. Steve’s article notes that “the same people keep having the same problems” and also notes that ‘demons’ often ‘co-exist’ with other mental health issues. This concept is congruent with what happens at WOL. The same people keep getting ‘re-infected’ over and over and require Doyle’s ‘faith’ to save them. I have previously written here that one of the tragedies of WOL is that being in a cult can be, in a counterintuitive way, strangely comfortable. Steve’s linked article addresses the issue of WILL, noting that ‘demonic possession’ seems to be prevalent in people who are ‘weak-willed’ (I’m paraphrasing). Those who are personally acquainted with current WOL followers may question it when I describe Doyle’s cult followers as ‘weak-willed’ but that is precisely what is going on. Stronger-willed people (like Rosie Brucie, for example) have tended to leave as Doyle’s behaviors/teachings grew more and more bizarre. To stay with Doyle it is necessary to accept some pretty crazy premises. One literally has to allow Doyle to substitute his own will for your own. Cult followers typically find comfort in following the ‘will’ of the leader because it allows them to not assume responsibility for their own lives and spiritual condition. REGARDING DEMONS, if you believe that good things flow from ‘following the leader’ you are likely to also believe that bad things flow from being ‘taken over’ by some bad spirit or ‘demon’. You have abdicated personal responsibility when you look OUTSIDE OF YOURSELF AND YOUR ONE-ON-ONE RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING OR A ‘DEMON’ to get an understanding of what is going on in your life. It IS comforting to think “It’s not my fault/responsibility/job.” but your relationship with God IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY. Pastors, ministers, psychiatrists, witch doctors, or DOYLE cannot do that for you. SOME pastors/teachers may HELP and offer guidance based on their knowledge and level of experience. But when you give responsibility in this area to someone else, you set yourself up to be exploited, which is precisely what Doyle Davidson does, and has a long history of doing. Mental health pros see very dysfunctional, yet longstanding, relationships and have wondered WHY these people stay together. When ‘crazy’ people get tangled up in a persisting relationship (which is often detrimental to both parties) the relationship is said to ‘work’ BECAUSE THEIR NEUROSES MESH. At WOL, Doyle meets deep-seated needs in the Wollers to give over the responsibility for their spiritual life to someone else. (In spite of the fact that some of the Wollers have rather prickly personalities, they are, at their core, weak-willed. How else could one explain their UTTER PASSIVITY?) Doyle, control freak and know-it-all that he is, EAGERLY assumed the role and has even come to believe that his thoughts are Gawd’s thoughts. It is also strangely comforting to beleive that ‘demons’ or the ‘Jezebel’ are at work when one behaves badly or simply has a bad expereince in life issues. It is comforting to believe that ‘demon’s delayed your plane and you can get Doyle to ‘agree’ with you to get airborne on time. It is comforting to believe that a ‘demon’ killed Terry Mai because then you don’t have to face the fact that cancer combined with Doyle’s ignorant belief system killed Terry Mai. Just like his belief system CONTRIBUTED to Dina Schlosser not taking her meds and the tragedy that flowed from that. Don’t blame ‘demons’ for this. Have the INTEGRITY to accept some personal responsibility.
Hey Rev…I resemble that remark!! heh heh!
“Strong Willed” shoot, I am as sweet and innocent as white driven snow…and soooo passive…but I’ve been known to kick a few booties….(in my dreams)…heh heh …rab
Steve:
excellent article. I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again: the more you peel back the layers, the more evident it is about how bad it really was (is).
Your right Jack!! I’d like to peel some skin off that old man…I’m sure his little wrinkle body has plenty of extra and donate it to the burn center….unfortunately, they are only looking for some young meat with no spots or blemishes….rab
ROSE: OMG Girl! Laughing out loud! you are too funny!!!! CP
I doubt that the woman in DC had any connection to Doyle. The “jezebel” has become a favorite whipping boy (whipping girl?) among those who see demons around every corner.
I have long believed that ministries (and I use that term very loosely) like DD’s who constantly focus on demons are actually giving the devil more credit than he deserves. These so called deliverance ministries really exalt the devil more than they do God.
Here is an article by a pastor (a real pastor) and Bible scholar named Bob DeWaay that speaks to this issue.
How Deliverance Ministries Lead People to Bondage
http://cicministry.org/commentary/issue78.htm
EXCELLENT article SteveL ! Thank you- that one is a keeper! ~ Cheryl
Meg – Good prayer. I’ll include it in the kit. It’s one the WOL’ers definitely need to get The Lord’s attention to help them find a good parking spot.
That news story about the Washington D.C. woman who killed her kids because they were possessed by demons and jezzies got me to thinking that Doyle is missing a golden opportunity. He could hire himself out as an “expert witness” at these kinds of trials and bring videos of Kathie Small screaming, shaking and barfing up demons to show juries that demons do exist. He could even testify about Big Red’s home invasion and have an artist’s sketch of what Big Red looks like. Expert witnesses make a lot of money.
Artists sketch, my Aunt Fannie – all he needs to do is print out the montages with Big Red in all his various incarnations that have been posted on the forum ROFL Meg
Medic: It was filed in May and granted 7-14-09.
YAHOO! Doyle has managed to legally SCREW UP yet another marriage!! Good For YOU DOYLE! Your Devil and You must be very happy….may you both end up in the pits of Hell where both of you deserve to burn forever!
I’m sorry people, just seeing this makes me so angry and upset that she (Kathie) hasn’t opened her eyes by now….one thing is to hear him preach in that devil infested building, but to live with him, she must be seeing his lies in person daily…She’s got to open those greedy little eyes some day!
Now let’s see if the “little man” will have the guts to marry Kathie….? And will she haveto sign a pre-nup? Okay, Kathy Mai if he doesn’t be really scared and I mean really scared cause she ends up with everything UNLESS Doyle does a will and I don’t know if he would do that and leave you anything especially since you had your own mind to go Israel without his blessings and had fun on top of that….and sang in a catholic church……that’s called rebellion Kathy…you naughty girl….rab
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Has anyone considered that Drool and his Concubine (after the 30 day waiting period) will slip off to the JP of Collin County and pay their $45 bucks for that “worthless piece of paper” (DD says) and sign it and made it official?
I personally DO NOT see Drool actually marrying the little hussy- I believe he’s still carrying a Tiki Torch for Lisa S. Just my opinion of course.
Whoever found the divorce records: can you find marriage licenses the same way?
Inquiring Jezebels want to know! ~Cheryl
Good morning, friends! After pulling (7) 18 hour days in a row, my desk is clear and I have my life back! Yea!
Okay. Catching up – random notes.
Alan: I wasn’t busting you over not getting posts up, I was feeling bad I had let YOU and the peeps down.
Cheryl: May the fleas of Raheem’s goats infest your pantyhose for the image of Doyle in a bathing suit. Aaaarrrrgggghhhh – my eyes!
Steve Lumbley: Be interesting to know if the latest killer mom is one who watches Drool on the net, won’t it? That’s always the dangers with preaching to those principalities and administrations – you never know who’s watching.
Steve S: Answers to many of your questions have already been addressed on this forum – happy reading!
Medic: Up here, you can check legal records free on line. Don’t know if you can do that in Texas.
Bob: May I offer a possible prayer for the kit? I don’t know how you’re going to have time to write all 5,000+. You are welcome to use this one, if it meets the high MOL standards we all aspire to:
Dear Lord, I need a parking spot
And not too far out in the lot
I want to park close to the door
Don’t make me cruise this lot no more.
Amen.
(from CP) Sister Profitess Meg: regarding the official Davidson bathsuit: it was an ULTRA tiny leopard print bikini Speedo, with two snap buckles on the sides……
Picture that! (Did you have a trash can handy?) LOL!
Truthfully, it was a poly-stretch faded denim- that Patti Davidson had used- she took a pair of his denim stretch jeans and turned them into a proper swim suit- NAH! Just kidding!
One interesting thing I remember about the Pool Party, is that although there was no liquor (at least in plain view) a woman that DD was rumored to be “praying with”
was there in a very, very skimpy teal colored bathing suit that had required a very significant amount of pre-wear, um, how can I say it…. beauty preparations in certain areas using wax? I hope that’s not too graphic- and why do I remember this so well? She was flirting with SEVERAL of the MARRIED men, “tee-hee”ing a bit too much and the wives noticed and were rather miffed…. and their faces weren’t happy- and it WAS NOT from standing by the grill for too long~ what was more fun: watching HER flirting? or watching the wives watching their husbands like a Pit Bull? Yeh, you guessed it- it was SO fun watching the WIVES! ~cp
Jack T:
YOU are just too funny! We’re all so glad that you’re on this Forum!
And you can be as “crotchety” as you want- it’s oooooohhhhh-kkkkkkaaaaaay
But here’s another point: OK: I started going to the CultShack in 1983. I know Lisa (my sister) babysat for you and Cynthia several times when she was first married. I probably kept the kids in the Nursery. My memory is bad- but I definitely remember the Geer kids, the Smalls, the Langfords…. etc… I even changed JenniMarie Brown’s diapers! Some kids I can’t remember as well…
ANYWAY: the POINT is, in all that time, I was NEVER close to anyone at that church/cult!!!!
I would have to say I was “friendly” with people- on a surface level.
But the only true strong FRIENDSHIP I can say I have maintained over all those years, was Sharon and Dale Littrell- they are doing so great- GOOD JOBS. NEW HOUSE, etc. (didya read that Doyle?)
Let’s face it: WOL was always a clique… and I wasn’t it. Friendships were NOT encouraged- and I will say that till the end! As I mentioned before: if DD saw a couple’s friendship- he would find a way to break it up.
Now, for the POOLPARTY: You know, I had a funny feeling I was right about that! He laughed along with it when it happened, but I could see on his face he was po-ed about being thrown in. Oh, I don’t doubt a bit that he had to “spiritualize” it and make some “demon” try to drown him- HA- whatever. I guess you men ALL knew from that point on, he couldn’t take a joke! He’s too insecure for that.
I never knew Randy and Kathleen. I do remember DD saying that Randy had threatened him with a lawsuit about something, and DD told us he told Randy, “go ahead, I’ll countersue and slap YOU with a frivilous lawsuit claim”…. I can’t remember what it was about, but Randy was going to go after him…. of course, DD threatening him made him back down.
The saddest thing, is that we DID used to have get togethers like “normal” churches- even New Year’s Eve, we did pot luck dinners, etc.
MY WISH??? Is that all of us OLD TIMERS, the “Survivors” would get together and BBQ, have a beer or glass of wine and have a blast.
We can do it at Rosie’s- she won’t care! LOL!
All my best to you, Jack- and Cynthia- you guys are what we call “good people”….
I’m up for a WOL “LIBERATION PARTY”!!!
ANYBODY could come:
(except those that still “love” DD and DD himself- no wet blankets at THAT party!)
Thank you for all you contribute Jack! And Bob Buckner. I would love to see Bob Buckner post more often.
Let’s see: we are missing so many people that for one reason or another won’t post here…
I’d love to hear from the Ferguson’s, the Langfords, etc. Nice folk caught up in a nasty cult.
“Thank God, Thank God, Thank God Almighty, I’m Free at last!”
Have a good day, peeps!
Cheryl
And you know what is the SAD part? I didn’t really know you guys, in all that time!
Thought this might be of interest to the group
DC mom accused of killing 4 daughters cited demons
In the videotaped interview, Jacks said the girls stopped being her daughters and took on the identities of the demons.
She said her eldest daughter, Brittany, was possessed by a demon she called “Jezebel,” a prostitute who caused suffering and spread disease.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D99EDR600&show_article=1
Wow- yikes! Thanks for the story Steve. How about the Tyler Mom who stoned her kids to death? These religious zombies are dangerous. Bless you for your contributions!
Cheryl
Cheryl:
I had to laugh when I read “get over it”. Me being unsociable is just a private joke between me and myself. But since its wearing thin, I’m going to tell myself to drop it from the agenda. Nothing to worry about, unless me starts arguing about it.
Yeah, I was one of those guys that threw doyle in the pool. It appeared to most that he took it in stride ’cause he didn’t cause a scene, but when I saw his face as he was drying himself, I realized that he thought we had crossed the line. He brought it up at a small dinner one night and said that those were devils in us that did that and something (emanating from us) pushed him to the bottom of the pool after he hit the water.
BTW, ironically enough, the very day it was asked about here is the day it was finalized. Talking about the divorce. So sad.
OK OLD TIMERS:
How many of you remember the Pool Party at Randy and Kathleen Meyers house? I’m pretty sure LisaH was there. This was B4 Staton came along.
Imagine: Shock! WOLLERS in bathing suits and kids splashing in the pool and grilling burgers@@@ OH MY! HAVING (dare I say it?) NORMAL FUN!
OH! The shame and decadance of it all! ((GRIN))
Best part: when some of the men picked up Old Toothless and threw in him in the pool….
But alas, he knew how to swim….
Ho hum
Cp
Wow,what I would give to have seen that ! Did he laugh about it or get mad?and surely there were no evil Tiki torches there…
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Nope, no Tiki Torches….
He took in stride, but I don’t think he was too happy at being the butt of the joke, because everyone was laughing!!! WHWWWWEEEEEEE!!!! CP
Question; For those in the know…has Kathy Small filed for divorce yet????
HI Medic- I have no knowledge of it- anyone else know? ~~Cheryl
Sorry bout the coment backup.Heat took it outta me today and I been nappin.
AH
Geeze – I just logged on after having a life today, and found about 10 items waiting to be posted, so there you are. Now I have to catch up on my reading, so shall say something at length about all of your comments tomorrow. Al – I will note that if you like “spinal tap” (I own it, I love it so much!) you might like to try “Waiting for Guffman”
well i am just a guitar player, and i had a tune , i call it, i moved a mountain, i took some faith and found a place does that rhyme? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdVX_8DqFD0&feature=channel_page
James- you know you have a Fan Club here, right?
CP
To Rosie the Bruce, slayer of Davidshuns:
Of course the real reason doyle made sure we didn’t all get too friendly with each other, was the old divide and conquer trick. It was all about controlling the environment and the people. But from our point of view, there were lots of reasons: since most churches were considered social clubs, we went out of our way to show that we were there for God, and not for the other people there. Any inter-action that did take place, usually ended up with someone getting bit (case in point, the Lark eye-liner story), so people learned to keep to themselves. There was a lot of posturing for position, so thy neighbor was thy competition. Also, a lot of people there had a lot of problems…get too close to that unbelief and it might wear off. Being friendly was just the flesh, you had to be sober. My reason for being unsocialble?? just a crotchety, unsocial guy who cries easily when confronted. It wasn’t doyle’s control at all! Those are off the top of my head. Anyone want to add to??
Jack- I concur: Doyle put a screeching halt on anything “social”…
Cheryl
I remember when my sister and her husband were friends with a certain couple- (think “flyswatters) and Doyle came along and put a STOP to THAT friendship! We found out “why” years later….
Oh and by the way, you are NOT a crotchety unsociable- I aways just saw you- AND Cynthia as quiet laid back easy going people. Get over it Jack- you’re a nice guy- Cynthia would have never put up with ya for this long if ya weren’t a “nice guy”!
to see the new pics, go to Terry’s site…
looks like they had a good time, away from the insanity and Plano soap opera.
I still have love in my heart for them, hope you all don’t mind me saying so.
I was just telling my husband the other day, that Terry Mai was never a cookie cutter replica of Drooling Toothless.
Terry always had “class”- and he was a BIG guy- he didn’t have to act like a pipsqueak little snot like Drool…. I NEVER heard Terry be ugly to anyone. Terry and Kathy could have really gone somewhere with their lives, their girls, and their ministry, if only Kathy could have cut the apron strings with Paw Paw~~CP
Cheryl: I’m familiar with the song and it’s a goodun. You might like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YliBqsV3YMc Disclaimer: contains some ‘adult’ language, although nothing you won’t hear in one of Doyle’s ’sermons’.
HILARIOUS!!! ROFL!
Cheryl
Met my husband in a C/W bar…. no, now it wasn’t like THAT! We were both taking C/W dance lessons. Yeh, after I was paroled from WOL: I went and learned to do the Texas Two Step— and anything else I had been told I couldn’t have fun doing!… Yeh, got a bit crazy, but I’m back on track now ……
FUNNY SONG!
As far as welcoming new people and socializing, at first, we did try a few group functions and even had a baseball/park expedition which turned out to be “the flesh”..and the baby showers were eventually labeled “the flesh” as well.
Anything fun or secular was considered “the flesh”, and it was sin. We had to pray or read or fast at all times (like Jesus?).
I have been studying about cults and reading other sites. Here is a comment that explains some things, the Geers specifically:
Dr. Phil again focused his program on cultic groups. One of the ways that several people who had loved ones in cultic groups described their loved one was by the expressionless looks on their faces.
Now, I am not advocating the “good” Doctor. But I can’t help but see red flags when I read other sites, or for example, what Derek Prince wrote about summoning devils by dancing.
The answers just keep coming when you look for them, by the Spirit.
There are new pics of the MAI GUYS on their trip. I was so blessed to see Candace smiling and enjoying herself. I was reminded of when she used to come play with my girls at our house when she was much younger.
Like can be great, Candace, even away from Pawpaw. You can still serve your real Father, without Terry or Doyle. It’s called faith, not rebellion.
Isabel: can I just say BRAVO for this??? EXCELLENT post!~ cp
Rosie,
Were you and Alan funding Doyle Enterprises when he was providing breakfast to the people in Tulsa, Houston and Joplin? Those I know about. If so, I owe you and Alan, I think. It just dawned on me that we were probably eating on Rosie’s dime.
We ponied up for the treasure box that J. R. and Lisa were manning, but I’m sure that went to cover the cost of the plane. Oh Rats. You and Alan probably paid for the plane, too. Doesn’t it just warm your cockles? All those breakfasts in Tulsa, and who is left there now? Antknees little remnant.
Rosie,
You are doing us all a service by posting these remembrances that come to you from time to time. The people who were never around the insanity need to hear it, and the ones who have come out need to remember how it was. And wouldn’t it be wonderful if some of the diehard captives would see it in print and THINK, “That’s just not right.”
I met the Rusows in Tulsa. They moved from Missouri to Plano to be near Doyle. And wound up on your payroll, like how many others, actually? And that’s the way he treats the woman? They had a daughter who was a power lifter. I just had a fantasy of her twisting Doyle into a pretzel for treating her mother like that.
Norma: I am waiting patiently when Drool gets pushy with the wrong man’s wife- and gets flattend. All I can say is, I thank GOD I am not married to one of those eunuchs at WOL!!! He wouldn’t get away with aything like that with my husband:
(EX Military with some special forces training- and he can still kick some butt!) Doyle just better hope and really pray he never runs into someone like MY husband! -
Cheryl
Rose,
Your post about Mike getting reamed out publically by Doyle reminds me of two incidents that made TV both involved Debbie Geer. One night, not sure what prompted this, probably nothing, but Doyle yelled at Debbie who was sitting toward the back. He ordered her to come to the front, yelled at her, then told her to sit on the front row.
Cheryl says: David: I can confirm this: I SAW this on TV and wondered why Bruce”no Guts”Geer didn’t gt up and take a swing at Doyle…. Doyle knows just who he thinks he can push around- but one of these days….
On another occassion, she was on the second row where she now sits. Doyle got in her face, started yelling “I’m tired of you fighting me”. She was doing nothing. On another site, one exWoller said Debbie use to be one of the few who were allowed to visit Patti, Doyle’s only wife, and she knew too much as to how Doyle treated her. Makes sense.
Yep, David, true again- Cheryl
This same person told me about Carol Ferguson being reamed out by Doyle before the congregation but off camera. They also mentioned Jenny Brown being reamed out before everyone for an email she sent the newspaper or someone. It would be a cold day in hell before I would let any man, especially a so-called spiritual leader, treat my wife or daughter that way. We would have one of those “come to Jesus” meetings and maybe even worse. What is wrong with these folks?
DAVID: because he is a big bully with “LIttle Man Syndrome”…. he has emasculated the men.
Like some one said- the WOL men need t shirts that say “Help me grow a pair”.
I thank GOD that I have escaped that place. It’s an emotional and spiritual Auschwitz- where people are demeaned and eventually their spirit is broken- the only difference is: the people in Auschwitz WANTED to be “Liberated”- the WOL-NUTS think they already ARE!
Sick, sick, sick……….. Cheryl
I remember those Sansabelt slacks, plain fronts, no cuffs. Unless Basil has updated his wardrobe, he still wears those things. Basil, be careful with those plain fronts.
Jack T. question: I can’t ever remember hardly anyone going out of their way to comfort or welcome anyone to WOL…was that just understood to not do so cause you would be considered a “busybody”?
Also, I can remember when we had our Management Team outing at Lake Murray in Oklahoma to do the following years agenda…and we had taken a boat out one evening and Mike Carter had mentioned something he believed God told him to tell me and Alan as owners of the company. He politely announced this to us in front of our entire Management Team. The jest of the message was that he believed we weren’t doing something right…to be honest I can’t even remember what it was…I even asked Alan and he couldn’t remember it…but I personally took it as something I would consider and didn’t get upset by it or anything, but Terre B. in the ladies bathroom that evening asked me what I thought about what he said and I stated very simply that I would always consider what anybody tells me as I do to this day….
Well word got back to Doyle what Mike had said to us,,,,,I wonder how? and Doyle reamed Mike out in front of all the Congregation like you never saw….I was sooo embarassed for Mike cause I quite frankly thought that this was something Mike really felt he needed to tell us and it didn’t have anything to do with Doyle? End of subject,,,,,but nooooooo since Mike stepped on Doyle’s toes (sorta) by not checking with Doyle first, he got a whoopin’….
This infuriated me! I was so disappointed and thought how stupid that was to ream him…and I also thought okay, so noone is suppose to talk to me but Mr. Hineness? <–no I didn't misspell….
I believe this began the spark's in the light bulb slowly trying to turn on?
While I am on a roll….I also remember almost messing in my pants one night when Danny Rusow's wife was coughing and Doyle was preaching and he stopped and jumped down from the stage screaming at her at the top of his lungs madder than a stung dog barking at her to go and sit at the last row seats…and to stop smoking and on and on…it upset me so bad I couldn't hardly stand up that night from my chair. See normally, I would have had the mind to understand this was just not GOD, but what kept me there…oh yeah FEAR!!! Whenever you left church, you always were grateful not to GOD, but to Doyle for not yelling at you in particular that night…
OK:
MY TURN TO PICK THE SPIRITUAL SONG:
“I’d Rather Have A Bottle In Front Of Me, Than
Have A Frontal Lobotomy”
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Hope you like that one, REV!
Cheryl
Patti – Did a dove really poop on Doyle outside Saint Anne’s Church when he was in Israel? If so that’s very funny. Better watch it Doyle, maybe the real God was trying to tell you something knowing that you like to interpret dove signs.
Yes, Rose- it gives a WHOLE new meaning to the word “reserved”.
This is the first time I’ve been connected to the internet well enough to watch this “circus” LIVE in quite a while.
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!
I usually depend on the Forum to keep me up to date, but nope, tonight I get to see it live.
Jeepers Creepers!
The “Boys” are lip-synching to “I Saw The Lord”… K Small is doing her “Floating Fairy” dance while Doyle is YELLING while the boys are trying to sing.
Doyle” Chapter and Verse PLEASE where things are NOT to be done “decently and in order”….
The Boys are trying sing, Doyle and some others yelling over their singing- complete craziness:
it all equals = BEDLAM!
This is the most insane nonsense and waste of time I have ever seen. Very few people there tonight, excpet for the Hard Core Die Hard Wol Nuts.
OK, I can’t watch anymore…. I am SO THANKFUL I can’t usually watch this MANURE every night…. I’d be on Haldol!
Cheryl
Hey Forum :
Am I the ONLY one, that wonders how Debbie Geer must feel, sitting there, while HER husband, Bruce does his Bunny Hop, while Kathie Small shimmies around him, and her Sugar Daddy? Does this strike anyone else weird? Or it it just me?
Just thinking….
Ps: Wol-nuts are being instructed tonight by Drool to “shout”. Basil was kind enough to read out of the Bible for Drool.
Things that make ya go HM
~ Cheryl
Listen Cheryl,,,,,that whole group are the stupidist and rudist group of people I have ever met that truly believe that their HOLY THOU ART act is truly holy….. I can remember Lark Carpenter coming up to me once and said, I just love your make-up, but the eyeliner seems to be a little dark….? I thought? WHAT THE #@%% are you talking about….then it dawned on me that Doyle was preaching on the Jezebel spirit that night and I couldn’t tell you where it is right now, but somewhere it talks about make-up and liner….boy, after I read that, I felt so bad and thought wow! Eyeliner…makes me a jezzy and how awful I had to have BEEN that SHE WOULD BRING that to my attention????? Oh HOLY THOU ART MS. LARK, you people say everyone that leaves has a horrible life, shoot, I had the worst experience in life when I was AT WOL.
Cheryl Getting back on the Geers!!! I mean those people are the rudest and weirdest and I truly have to rate them on a count down of 1 to 10 as the #1’s …..(ooops sorry, maybe we should have had a count down….?)and they don’t know how to speak or talk? I’ve mentioned this before, but Alan and I walked into Cheddars one night and saw the whole family sitting at a table in Doyle’s favorite spot on the bar side. Alan and I walked over and Alan said Hello and asked how everything was going……tick, tick, tick, tick,….nothing said…they all just stared at both of us, no emotion, nothing…, no answer…..Alan then thought maybe they didn’t hear and once again asked another question of how everyone was? tick, tick, tick, tick….nothing said….they all just stared at both of us, no emotion, nothing….then the restaurant called our name to be seated and then Alan held his hand out to Bruce, shook it and said “it sure was good talking to all of you” Bye….then we both walked off laughing cause we couldn’t hardly believe what we just experienced….I mentioned this incident to Terre B. during the time she and I were talking and she said that they are just very quiet and have unusual behaviors…no they don’t have unusal behavior, they are just FREAKIN WEIRD…all of them!!! Look who they mock and look up to….talk about zombies….sheesh! rab
Okay Rose. You win. I guess there are more important things at stake with these WOL Prayer Card Kits than my selfish profit motive. The cards would help the blue chairs get the Divine intercession they think they need to defeat the Jezzies that come up during a routine day.
As a special “Thank You” for setting me on the right path, here’s a pre-publication peek at one of the prayers that will be included in the kit:
THE MISSING SOCKS PRAYER
Dear Heavenly Father I’m in a mess,
I put _____ socks in the washer
But out came one less.
If You could help me get the missing sock back,
At some point I won’t need to paint one foot black.
Please bless Lisa and her wicked friends in Doyle’s name. Aben.
It’s okay Bob….I was going to have to sick Meg or Normal on you, so I’m glad you came to your senses…..I’m sure it’s because you haven’t had a real vacation yet this year? Why don’t you Apostle boys all plan a little outting together…look how much fun Raheem and his friend are having around the campfire with all that goat sauce…..you need to hook up with the boys Bob, let your hair down (if you have any) and get wild…sometimes you just have to do that!!!…sometimes we get into ruts and it’s hard to climb out….I know, I was in a HELL HOLE RUT and finally grew my nails and was able to climb out….rab
Excuse me? Sic MEG on him? Since when did I become the HitWoman of MOL? Now, Normal – I can see that. She stands all of 5′3″ according to one of her posts. You know those tiny, feisty types. Bet she could tell some of our big MOL guys how the cow ate the cabbage. I vote for Normal Jane to be our official enforcer. Meg
VIVE LA FRANCE, JACQUES. THANKS FOR REMINDING ME. I ALMOST MISSED IT!
THE SANSABELT BRAND IS THE PANTS DOYLE USED TO ENDORSE IN THE 80′S. (MEANS “WITHOUT A BELT”) LIKE JESUS, DOYLE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY, TODAY AND FOREVER.
HEE HEE! Isabel, you are TOO funny! Yes, they still sell these stretch no belt jeans. Never saw him wear tennis shoes. It was always the sansabelt jeans and his loafers!
Cheryl
Great look when he wore the tassled ones
AHEM – Mderators. Someone signed my name to a comment below that I didn’t make. Meg
i think all the wol-nuts need a special internet gift for their faithfulness in attending the cultshack. ya know some of those people are there seven nights a week.
dull should reward them. i have some gift ideas
1. gift certificate to cheddars
2. packs of panythose for the wol dancer-trancer-prancers. i bet that carpet wears their pantyhose out fast.
3. in that vein, the dancer-trancer-prancers should be compensated by wol and receive a free pedicure including bunion removal.
4. each married couple should receive one bottle of jack daniels to enjoy each week. or dom perignon, whichever they prefer. if old toothless gets to have a few snorts before the show, shouldnt they?
5.dancing t shirts specially printed:
“i dance my devils off at Water of Life everynight”!
6. the guys should get polo shirts that say, “i sit on my a** and take verbal abuse like a wimp every night by a false prophet”.
7. they could also get little lapel buttons that say: “help me, i need to grow a pair”
8. and last but not least, each person- married or single (since there is no sanctity or honor in marriage) they should each receive a basket full of “goodies”. you folks know what i mean: “big people toys”.
mrs. brown could hand them out at the door with her stupid “head in the clouds” smirk- i mean-smile of hers.
whatcha think peeps?
Amber
Amber Dear: that’s a GREAT idea! You just left out one item from the Gift Package that is simply a MUST for every WoLLER! “Extenze” pills! How could you leave those out?? MEG
Amber another idea for a shirt for the guys is “I left my heart & “bal** in San Francisco”…..rab
RevDoc – Very good find on the definition of “short man syndrome.” I got a kick out of the,
“Can have a seriously adverse affect on those within earshot of persons afflicted with this unfortunate condition.”
Maybe that’s what causes the “zombie look?”
Thanks everyone for your great ideas on prayers to include in the “WOL Prayer Kit” to help the blue chairs get through a normal day. Unfortunately my Hellmark Cards accountant called me after I posted my idea this morning and reminded me that my potential WOL customer base is only around 20 (assuming one kit per married WOL couple) and even if we captured 50% of that potential market that would only be 10 kits, not enough to make it a profitable venture. He also reminded me that Doyle could cut that number further by taking more WOL women into his house as additional “waffs,” and that the number of blue chair folks in general is shrinking so the market for this product won’t be growing. He strongly recommended that Hellmark drop this project as the profit potential is nil. Oh well, I guess the WOL’ers will have to remain on their own for obtaining The Almighty’s assistance with finding missing socks, bringing on summer breezes and ridding their pets of fleas (yes, there was going to be a Flea Prayer). But thanks again to everyone for their ideas on prayer cards to include in the kit. Much appreciated.
Okay Bob, sometimes Profitesessessssss have to step in and ah overrule your accountants decision. Maybe your accountant has a bunch of jezzy’s, but I think you should continue to help what is left in that poor miserable of a building they call church….First of all, your accountant doesn’t know what he is talking about. I can add better than him (no offense) just being honest, but let’s take the 20 still there….you know at WOL, people have a lot of babies, look at the Brown’s…4 kids, so their family alone could benefit from at least SIX prayer kits….Bob & Lark, have so many I have forgotten…but it’s around 15 I think..heh heh…just kidding…also, Kathie and Jack Small had FOUR too….you get the idea!Lord knows each and everyone of them need it!! So even if you have 35 counting the kids…if we can help them before they multiple, we might have a chance? What say you? rab
don’t let d’oil ride, if you let him ride he’ll show you how to drive,, traditional gospel in a non traditional way..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LttQDvOy9nU&feature=channel_page
Lord, AL,
You certainly are observent. I wonder if any of the other women on here noticed–I didn’t.
I had assumed from watching Doyle and Terry on TV that Doyle was taller than average and Terry was very tall. In fact, Terry was average and Doyle was short.
People say 5′8″ (just like SDC). He seemed more like 5′6″ to me, cause I’m 5′3″ and in heels, I was looking at him eyeball to eyeball. Sideways, of course, because he wouldn’t face me.
For some insight into Doyles personality, go to http://www.urbandictionary.com and look up ’short man syndrome’.
OH REV! LOL~~~ There are SO many descriptions of DD’s personality in “URBAN DICTIONARY”— but I don’t think Alan or Rose would let us use them here !
~CP
Hallo Bobber, Is Raheem–please to be including on praying cards–”Bee letting the *##+@ Yugo start this time for once” and “Bee stopping the goats from eating Mol Cult tambourines” and “please be doing something about Doily’s leg lag”. “Also be helping Rosie Brucie and Mag and NormalJane get weaned off goat sauce” Later. Is Raheem.
And I think, in case history repeates itself:
Lord, please don’t give me and my husband any bright or talented children; for the people will surely think they have been adopted; especially if they can spell and pronounce Deuteronomy and use big words like Academia in a sentence properly.
Bob,
The Prayers in a Box idea is wonderful.
Please include a “Lord, I am having a bad hair day” card.
and a “Please don’t let Doyle find out the kid has a paper route and decide to shake him down every week”
card.
Bob: Here are some specific cards I’d like in my prayer kit, in case you personalize –
The tray is FULL of ice cubes
Restore my car keys
Let there be clean underwear for all
Bob: Awesome idea. Can’t wait ’till production and distribution ’cause I’ve got a missing sock, too.
Isabelle: Happy July 14th. Enjoy.
wow love the card idea, “d’oil, take my wife , please”,, that is one of my favorite old randy california songs,, thanks for posting,,
Some of you may recall my idea to start a greetings card company named Hellmark Cards geared to WOL’ers and their special days. I was going to launch the product line this past Mother’s Day with a “Mom You’re A Wicked Jezabel” card but production difficulties didn’t allow me to get the card to market (the WOL parking lot) in time. I’m proud to announce that Hellmark Cards is presently developing a completely new product line for WOL’ers to assist them in their need to call on The Almighty for divine intervention in every aspect of their lives. It will be called The Hellmark WOL Prayer Kit and will consist of 5,286 laminated prayer cards in a plastic file tray with each prayer designed to get the best results from The Lord for those special needs that come into every WOL’ers life. Needless to say, there will be a “It’s Hot, Send A Breeze” prayer card inspired by Ashley Mai’s story of the hot day in Israel. Some examples of other prayers that will be included in this kit are:
-The Missing Sock In The Laundry Prayer
-The What Color Should I Paint The Dog House Prayer
-The Washing Machine Making a Funny Noise Prayer
-The Find A Parking Spot Near The Walmart Entrance Prayer
Plus 5,282 more !!!
There will also be a bonus!!,the “Lord Don’t Let Doyle Find My Wife Attractive” prayer included in each kit!! for the WOL men,,or whatever….
“Hellmark”when you choose to send the very jest.
ah
We could have a pitchman run a infomercial right after drools show on the internet for the WHOLE WORLD to see.~lisah
I am amazed at how things change with the wind. When we vistied St. Anne’s church it was full of evil Catholic Spirits. Then walking out, a dove pooped on Doyle’s shirt….I am sure it was those evil Catholic Spirits! Maybe the Mai’s chased them out!
Quick Ponderings: He hasn’t said much (unless I missed it) about the upcoming trip to South Bend. There’s been no boasting about ‘raising the dead’, possibly since the trip to OKLA. was such a ‘rousing’ success. He has mentioned the airplane. Doyle seems impressed with his ability to rent a plane, even if no one else is. Regarding his ’sciatica’ or whatever is going on with his hip/leg: He’s said he’s has severe leg pain previously. Whatever the etiology, at his age a certain amount of osteoarthritis can be expected and he probably has some degree of spinal column degeneration. Both can contribute to nerve root compression leading to sciatic pain. It is excruciating. Unless some type of decompression surgery is indicated (and Doyle wouldn’t have that even if it was), the fix is rest and medication (some kind of anti-imflammatory med, maybe even corticosteroids) to knock down the irritation. It is one of life’s little ironies that, with every step Doyle takes ‘worshiping Gawd’, he makes the pain worse. When a person holds the kind of contradictory beliefs Doyle holds, eventually you box yourself in. You either have to admit that you were wrong (and in this case seek some type of help from witches/sorcerers) or keep on doing what got you into the mess in the first place (and keep on ‘believing’ it’ll miraculously get better on its own.) Doyle can’t stop walking. What message would that send to the Wollers? What would that say to GAWD? Gawd requires, DEMANDS actually, that Doyle and ALL those who ‘truly believe’ walk/dance/bunny hop until they drop. (The troops in basic training aren’t pushed this hard—OK, I’m exaggerating. But not by much.) In any event, Doyle’s leg/hip pain won’t get better on it’s own. It’s part of the aging process. He’s just not a 70 year old kid any more. There is an old adage in medicine: Pain is Nature’s way of telling you there’s a problem.
Rev, I actually had to have a spinal fusion 2 1/2 years ago. Something like L 4 or 5. The disk was blown and my back had become unstable. The pain was seriously at a level 9.5 with the most meds I could have without being in a hospital. Vicodin and pain patches worked very, very little for my nerve pain. After surgery, I woke up and have never had sciatic pain again and I have 0 pain now and don’t even have any lower back pain! So thankful I went to the witchdoctor and had it fixed. ~lisah
Golly – WOL is inflicting itself throughout the nation. Doyle’s taking “his wife” and the rest of the trained animal acts with him. WHY can’t we get him to specify Waffs by name or number. He’s had so many now, and since more than one is alive, and he’s praying for at least two of ‘em, it would help keep the score card straight…. Sad news for KFC – she’s not apparently going on this trip. Must still be lost in an airport somewhere. Or else Antknees locked her in the loo and forgot to let her out during the last visit. I realize Raheem and RevDoc probably just now got the cooler unloaded from the last road trip, but there is no rest when you’re on a mission guys. Drain the water in the cooler, reload with ice and pack your speedo shorts again…For goodness sake, will someone take Bill in hand this time, so he doesn’t wind up in Heaven Only Knows where?
Jack T – Good point. I wasn’t thinking about the tax angle to the Mai girls singing over there.
ccgirl – You could be right about hip damage. Doyle did come down on his right side pretty hard.
..more explanations and wisdom from Mr. Prince-
I am no expert in music, absolutely not at all. I cannot sing a note in tune. But I have a certain sensitivity to the impact of music. Having lived five years in Africa, I am aware that certain repetitive themes and rhythms can deaden your sensitivity. If you sit under that long enough, especially when it is very loud, you lose the capacity to discern. And in Africa those rhythms are used to call up demons.
end of exerpt
wow! this is amazing to me! My mom was born and raised in Oujda, Morroco. She visited WOL one time and when she left, she said she saw the same moves and trance-like activities in Africa while the natives were worshiping their gods. This is exactly what Derek Prince states as well. Now we know why the demons show up..and show up…and show up…!
According to Derek, Terre B. and Kathie S. aren’t about to be delivered anytime soon unless they sit their A** down, or better yet, jump in the car with K.Mai and DRIVE!!!
DON’T LOOK BACK…AND DON’T CHICKEN OUT! GOD CAN AND WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU! Whatsoever is not faith is sin. Quite trusting a man and LET GOD take care of you and your kids!
Mr. Prince seems to have lots of answers for us. No wonder Doyle parted ways with him!
Methinks Doyle’s “sciatica” is not from demons, not from the pride of those misguided lost souls sitting there in a stupor, it’s just lingering soreness from his recent kersplat off the stage. As I recall, he landed pretty hard on his right hip (I’ll have to go back and review it in slo-mo) For all we know, he could have an as-yet undetected hairline hip fracture that’s causing some radiating pain. I think that’s a fairly common occurrence when there’s no clear break, then the pain continues to increase to almost intolerable, then more detailed x-rays will reveal the fracture. We’ll have to wait and see. Wonder how all that would play out, what with his medicine=witchcraft mentality. If it gets to the point that he can’t walk, I don’t think he’d go for a wheelchair. Maybe some of the WOL boys could carry him back and forth on a cot of some kind, or they could rig up a harness on a track in the ceiling and just slide him back and forth.
Bob: I think doyle is happy that they got to “minister” no matter where it was, so they can write it off as a ministry trip, and not just a sight-seeing tour. It was, is, and always will be forever and ever aben about the money.
As an afterthought on that Saint Anne’s Church worship by the Mais, it could be that that ends up being the means to their salvation, that one break from worshipping at Doyle’s church.
take heed, you WOLbangers:
exerpt from Derek Prince’s book:
So, Jesus warns us four times against deception. Anybody who shrugs off that warning or treats it lightly does so at the risk of his own soul. The greatest single danger in this end time is not sickness, nor poverty, nor persecution. It is deception. If anybody says, “It could never happen to me,” it has already happened to that person, because that person is saying something could never happen that Jesus said would happen. That is a sufficient indication that such a person is deceived.
I forgot the rest of the passage…here it is…
In Psalm 2:4, David actually depicts God Himself as laughing: He who sits in the heavens shall laugh: The Lord shall hold them in derision, Here, God’s laughter is not a reaction to some comedy that is being enacted on earth. Rather, it is His response to the ridiculous human midgets who have the effrontery to oppose His purposes. It is His expression of triumph over all the forces of evil.
Sometimes, God fills us with His own laughter that we may share in His triumph over those who are both His enemies and ours.
something else that encouraged me from Mr. Prince’s writings and is quite appropriate for this forum. I wish SPM was still around to rub this in their face!!!
exerpt-
I then looked up various passages in the Bible that speak about laughter. To my surprise, I discovered that – for God’s people – laughter is not primarily, as we imagine, a reaction to something comical, but rather an expression of triumph over our enemies.
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so, laugh on, forum peeps~!
speaking of good qualities…I was reading something that Doyle’s “hero” Derek Prince once wrote. I was surprised how many similarities there are in Mr. Prince’s teachings and Doyle’s regarding certain topics, but not others. It seems Doyle chose (stole or borrowed)the views that appealed to him and changed the ones that did not appeal to him to serve his own purposes. Here is an example of what Mr. Prince taught, that Doyle obviously rejected. See if any of this answers the question of qualities found in Doyle:
exerpt from Derek Prince’s book
PROTECTION FROM DECEPTION”
by Derek Prince.
Navigating Through The Minefield
Of Signs And Wonders
Chapter One of a book by Derek Prince – Nov 1996
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I will give you a list of 12 adjectives, all of which I believe cannot be applied to the Holy Spirit or to anything that is the product of the Holy Spirit. As I go through the list, I suggest you check mentally and see if you agree with me. Here, then, are words that would never apply to the Holy Spirit:
self-exalting
self-assertive
degrading
flippant
rude
sham
vulgar
indecent
insensitive
stupid
silly
degraded
Thank you, Mr. Prince, for the answer to our question. We now have proof of what spirit Doyle DOESN’T walk in. No wonder Doyle rejected him and his teachings, eventually. They started out as friends (according to Doyle).
Has anyone here ever seen Doyle wearing anything other than a suit/tie, jacket/slacks? I’m just wondering what else he wears. Polo shirts and chinos, maybe?
Al
He seriously wears these blue jeans that are made out of polyester and jean material. He wears these while working at the cultshack during the day. All he needs to have is a pocket protector with a pencil and pen in his shirt and a he will look like the biggest nerd in town. I know he has been wearing these same type jeans since the early 80’s. Anyone remember? I know Cheryl will….we have laughed about it many times. ~lisah
I’m amazed that Doyle didn’t blow a gut when Kathy revealed that she and her three daughters sang (worshipped) at Saint Anne’s Church, especially in his current anti-Catholic frame of mind. St Anne’s in Jerusalem is an active, consecrated Catholic Church complete with statues, icons and burning candles and an altar in a grotto where it’s believed Mary was born. The church itself is named after Mary’s mother and Catholic masses are held there every morning. The priests allow anyone of any denomination to sing and worship there during the day. I guess Kathy and the girls need to showboat in a Catholic church overrode Doyles aversion to Catholics and the worship of Mary and Anne. Maybe he’s not aware that it’s still an active Catholic church.
I don’t remember the details, but because of something that happened in the trial, the final decision was made by the Judge. (because it WAS a jury trial, I believe). Anyway, it would have been politically expedient to just convict her in such a controversial case (citizens don’t always like ‘innocent by insanity’ rulings). I have known the Judge for years and he is a good and decent man. (yes, I know what I just said). I prayed, as I’m sure many others did likewise, that God would give him the courage to do the right thing. I believe he did and I thank God for him whenever I think about it.
Ex-water of life member statment.
Someday these people who stay on with d’oil will look back at the man’s verbal explanation for everything and realize it is ridiculous,, ” I have back pain because of your wickedness”.. my old age is because you didnt die when you were younger, ,,, I sometimes reflect (sorry terry) about how d’oils life is similar to the “wickedest man in the world” aleister crowley, who became his own god, started a church in england, called it the temple of thelema, and was sunk in debauchery. The folks at water of life tonight are really trying to prop up the memory of their dad terry, it really is a sad sight. d’oil got his live in goin on so its supposed to be OK.,is that what it is all about? finding some gal to be around at night? d’oil just cant be without a woman. at least the prayers for lisa ended,,well i didnt hear the opening prayer.. i am amazed that no one there reminds him of his blatant goof up with another man’s wife. i guess god couldnt pull off that one for ya d’oil.. what a maroon. scared little people around their little leader.
A MOL CULT ESSAY ON PERSECUTION: Doyle’s comments in the past and over this past weekend got me to thinking about how he’s been persecuted. When one thinks of the Christians who’ve been persecuted for their faith over the centuries, the name of Doyle Davidson just doesn’t leap to mind. So what does Doyle consider ARE the specific acts of persecution he’s been subjected to? Well, for starters, people have ‘lied about him’. REALLY? He’s been called an adulterer. A LIE? What about “Cindy” and Lisa and now Mrs. Small? Is it persecution when a person is confronted with the TRUTH? The Plano Cops were persecuting him. OR were they looking at an old NEAR-BLIND MAN KNOWN TO DRIVE WHILE INTOXICATED AND COMMIT ASSAULT & BATTERY? Possibly they were serving a higher calling to protect the people from a well-known danger to public safety. Doyle thinks all sorts of people want to kill him. Yet he still lives and hasn’t even been physically assaulted. He thought the Cops were trying to kill him when they made a middle-of-the-night courtesy call to check on him when he didn’t answer a telephone call from his DAUGHTER. The County Prosecutors and Judges were ‘out to get him’ too. Contrary to what Doyle thinks, the Schlosser case WAS NOT ABOUT HIM. It was to determine whether Dina was 1. guilty of murdering her baby or 2. insane. Where DID Dina get the idea that psychotrophic medications for PSYCHOSIS were sorcery and witchcraft and that Gawd didn’t want her to take them? The Defense needed to establish that she was insane. What better way to do that than to put Doyle–Her Spiritual Guide and Pastor–on the witness stand, ask some questions and LET DOYLE BE DOYLE. The Jury came to the correct verdict. Doyle felt persecuted, conveniently neglecting to mention the fact that he himself was NEVER even arrested, let alone prosecuted. He was NEVER HELD ACCOUNTABLE for the bilge he spews out except by the FREE Press and certain (ahem) websites. There is a lot more but you all know the stories. Anyone who tells the TRUTH about Doyle is ‘persecuting’ him. For Doyle to claim he is being ‘persecuted’ for his ‘faith’ is a travesty and a SLAP IN THE FACE TO ALL THE PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS WHO REALLY DID SUFFER FOR THEIR BELIEFS. His ‘ministry’ has shrunk into virtual invisibility NOT because of persecution, but because people FINALLY have started to see the TRUTH. It’s kind of like being caught up in the Legal System. It’s not an unjust conviction IF YOU REALLY DID COMMIT THE CRIME.
RevDoc – at the risk of causing Doyle great distress, may I point out that there are probably some (gasp) CHRISTIANS among the Plano Cops. Daggone it – get the crash cart. Or not. Medic? Huh? Oh. You’re busy too? Well, golly. Uh, sorry Kathie. Just lay him out on the floor and fan him. I’m sure it’ll help….Meg
Jack, I couldn’t come up with anything good either cause you know why…
When GOD made all things and called it “GOOD” I don’t think he included the following just for Doyle:
Con Artist
Manipulator
Adulterer
Liar
Killer/Murderer
Extortionist
Wife Stealer
I’m sure these are just the tip of the iceberg, but I have better things to do than list this big dummies errors….
Before I change the perp, may I submit my new and improved Marlon Brando impersonation? Well, its newer, I don’t know how much its improved, but here goes:
If I coulda. If I coulda. If I coulda just thotta one. Then I’d be a winna. But I got nuttin’. I coulda been a contenda. I coulda been somebody. But I got nuttin’.
Can we play an easier game next time, like one that really does have answers to the question??
Like I said before, a few months back-I tried to come up with just one good thing about the old geezer and I COULDN’T! I thought I might of missed one! Thanks for your answer.~lisah
Any good characteristics? Sorry guys, I got nuttin’. I coulda been a contenda. I coulda been somebody. But I got nuttin’. I’ll try to do betta on the next round we play.
Hmm. Change the perp – trying playing the game with Kathie (Who’s your daddy?) Small Davidson. Meg
Weekend Update: The Mai girls gave an oral report about their adventures in Izrul. Everything that happened on the package tour was highly significant and people actually requested that they sing. Kathy Mai revealed that she wanted to run away after Terry died and was 50 miles down the road with a packed suitcase before she turned around. Gawd told her to go home, but one wonders if she returned to Plano because she may not have had any other place to go. Only speculating on that one. In other news, Doyle was in full self-pity mode. He however didn’t cry when his Grandaughters were attacked. Probably not. Doyle only crys/whines when HE is attacked. And whine he did. According to Doyle, he was kicked off the TV stations because their Legal Departments were afraid of being sued. Actually, with one TV station, Doyle (he said) TRIED to get off the air, but the station MADE him stay on for 30 more days. Doyle reluctantly agreed. “Did you know the kind of persecution I went through? Did I walk away? No. I stood my ground.” The persecution he’s gone through has “never bothered” him, it’s the affliction that bothers him. For someone whom persecution doesn’t bother, he spends a lot of time whining about it. Quote of the Weekend: “The only reason some people stayed with my ministry is because Gawd needed your money.” Gawd apparently is not powerful enough to provide for his own needs. The persecutors will get theirs, of course. Doyle will forgive us BUT “the Power of Gawd in me won’t forgive you.” We’ve been warned. In other news, the owner of the charter plan company Doyle rents from has a new plane JUST SO DOYLE & CO. CAN FLY IN IT. In medical news, Doyle suffers from sciatica. “You haven’t seen me jumping up on that podium lately…the pain…the pain…” He takes no pain medications. He prays but “the more I prayed, the worse it hurt. And you know why? Because I was coming against your demons….your pride, your wickedness…” So we now know the Wollers are to blame for Doyle’ sciatic pain. His new binge is to come against Catholic ’spurts’ and we can look forward to more Anti-Catholic rants.
Doyle remember when you asked YOUR GAWD if you were WRONG? KEEP ASKING dude ….cause your GAWD won’t ever tell you the TRUTH! You big Dummy….but if you want the truth try asking “MY GOD” who is GRACIOUS, AND MERCIFUL AND HE WILL WAIT FOR YOU TO REPENT! TRY IT DOYLE, DENOUNCE YOURSELF FOR BELIEVING YOU WERE EVEN AN APOSTLE AND OBEYING THE GOD OF THIS WORLD….AND THEN REPENT AND KEEP REPENTING DUDE CAUSE YOU AND A LOT OF US HAVE STUFF YOU MINISTERED TO US THAT WILL NEED TO BE FORGIVEN AND REPENTED….I guess I am considered your enemy until you repent, so until you do Cheers! rab
Sorry Meg but Doyle Davidson is not a child of the Lord.
1John 3:10
In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.
By his own actions Doyle shows himself to be a child of the devil.
Perhaps I should have said, he WAS a child of our Lord. And I truly believe God grieves over every child lost to Him. Meg
Well groomed/Neat about his person. Somewhat Charismatic. Energetic. Good memory. (Selective, but good) Probably picks up after himself. Doesn’t eat to excess. Probably keeps his car very clean. Has a few old friends he seems to cherish and possibly does not abuse. Keeps his yard nice. Refrains from littering, no doubt.
Apparently has rather modest needs for himself, except for expensive cars. Is generous towards his chosen ones with other people’s money. Apparently only commits adultery with a small percentage of his congregation.
This list seems to be going downhill fast. I think I will stop now.
The good news, Normal, is if we wind up in Hell instead of Heaven, we’re both optimistic enough to move to the nearest fire and organize a weenie roast and s’mores feast. Meg
Meg – I had thought of the personality traits that you mention but ruled them out. Doyle’s ego has crossed the line to where he’s egocentric, a disease and not an admirable quality. His leadership ability is comparable to someone guiding a dog on a leash. A good leader leads by example, no leash required. A good leader also grows the number of those who follow him. Doyle has lost and is still losing followers. So I couldn’t put leadership on my list. As far as fertile imagination goes, possibly, but I think he’s crossed the healthy line on that, too, what with seeing red dragons in his house, invisible Asian women in his “church” and those voices in his head that tell him any woman he lusts after is his wife, regardless of whether she’s already married to someone else. So no, I can’t say that I wish I had that Doyle trait. I’m still coming up with zilch, zero, nada, nothing in Doyle’s character that I find admirable.
I agree 100% with you Bob. Can’t wait to hear what Jack’s take is on this subject. I think Meg might of just been kidding on his good traits. ~lisah
Sorry Bob – guess you couldn’t see I had my tongue in my cheek when I wrote that. There has to be something redeeming – he IS a child of our Lord. I suspect, like many parents, God desperately loves this child of his, but is appalled by his behavior. Fortunately, Doyle is God’s problem and not mine. Some days, by the way, I don’t act much nicer than Doyle, so I have myownself to have to account for and really have to talk to me hard and chastise myself for throwing rocks at Drool…
Meg
I have a feeling that Doyle treats each Woller differently. Even though he has verbally attacked Steve Brown, I don’t ever remember him coming after Terre, maybe, I just don’t remember. I have a feeling that the Brown’s are big givers.
He has attacked Debbie, but not Bruce Geer. I have never seen him come close to attacking the Cauthorn’s in anyway. Anyone want to guess? Big givers!
Although he has fired Basil Clark a couple of times, he seems to treat Basil and Kay favorably. For Basil, he has to look at his income from WoL.
The Peters just seem to fade in the background but probably big givers. All other high profile people have either left or have moved in with Doyle.
Doyle is probably a smoozer (sp?) for his pets and has the others scared to death of him. I really can’t think of any redeeming value that Doyle posseses. One can only go by what they see and hear and most of what I have seen and heard is disgusting.
I would like to restate my opinion that Doyle Davidson is nothing more than a liar and an abusive bully. Really. That’s all there is to him. Period. Aben.
Al
Al: Please try and pare down your lengthy editorials! Thanks! Meg (ROFL)
There has been some very good teaching on this forum this Sunday. Jack T., really enjoyed your last post as it really sums things up when it comes to how to treat a brother. As I read those scriptures in 2nd. Cor., I thought, I have never heard Doyle even come close to teaching anything like this. All I remember is condemnation, death and destruction. I’m thankful we serve a God who is full of mercy and compassion.
Jack!….you forgot the part where Paul then took the man’s wife and kids and justified it by quoting Jeremiah 8.
Hey guys. One of the many things that I like about this forum is that all the topics get mentioned eventually (usually sooner rather than later). If I might say something about I Cor 5 that Lisah posted about. There is one aspect of it that doyle, IMHO, has always taught wrong. When that man was delivered unto Satan, doyle always taught that he died. Most scholars agree (any forum scholars want to weigh in??) that in II Cor 2:1-11, in Paul’s follow-up letter, he addresses this same situation about this same man and Paul says that the man has had enough censure (ex-communication?) and to forgive him and receive him back into fellowship, lest Satan should get an advantage of them. This man became sorrowful and needed to be restored before he could be swept away by Satan. Paul did not call for, hope for, or gloat over a brother’s death like you know who. Here’s the passage:
1But I determined this with myself, that I would not come again to you in heaviness.
2For if I make you sorry, who is he then that maketh me glad, but the same which is made sorry by me?
3And I wrote this same unto you, lest, when I came, I should have sorrow from them of whom I ought to rejoice; having confidence in you all, that my joy is the joy of you all.
4For out of much affliction and anguish of heart I wrote unto you with many tears; not that ye should be grieved, but that ye might know the love which I have more abundantly unto you.
5But if any have caused grief, he hath not grieved me, but in part: that I may not overcharge you all.
6Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many.
7So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.
8Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.
9For to this end also did I write, that I might know the proof of you, whether ye be obedient in all things.
10To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ;
11Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
At wol, these two passages were never linked together.
If Doyle would repent, I know we all would be so thankful! All I know is— it ain’t happend yet. ~lisah
I just went to David Hickman’s page, and I hope he doesn’t mind that I paste in these words. His message says it all:
REPENT
This message is to those still attending the church I used to attend and all others who have yielded to such deceit.
Any sinner knows a Christian does not preach under the influence, or speak the”f” word, or live in adultery, or pray for the death of other Christians, they don’t say “Jesus is not God”, or “sin is no problem”, nor do they love having the preeminence. You must sear your conscience with a hot iron to justify these things. [Such were we] Let no man deceive you by any means, because of these things comes the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
You can cast out devils, prophesy and do miracles in the Lords name and he will still say depart from me you who continue to sin. [Contrary to Christ doctrine. Matt. 7:23] They receive not the love of the truth [Jesus came to save us from our sins] that they may be saved.
There is yet hope! For it is still called today! Repent so sin will not be your ruin!
Let your conscience, in light of the Word of God, with the right spirit, instruct you in the truth. If they speak not according to this Word there is no light in them.
You have friends in the Body of Christ.
-David-
well i read today all the comments, and i cant disagree with them, most have to do with “what we should do, how we should pray, how we should seek god,,, all the proper ways of finding god/using faith/living,, i have to tell you, i simply have an inward dialogue every day, most of it is reciting from my inward self chapters of isaiah i have committed to “memory” or whatever, i just speak that out, and ephesians chapter one and two, and psalms. i am looking toward god inwardly. and i dont have a plan for my life. i just try to do what is before me that day. i heard someone on the radio today explaining mark 16 and he said “this is what the lord meant by going forth into the world and proclaiming jesus”. well, he was so absolutley sure of himself that he repelled me. the other thing is, i am honest with myself. humble, but i am aware of my capabilities and things i cannot do. i fall short of the mark sometimes, but i have an advocate and a friend. i am known of the lord, but i am not a anything unusual, the lord, who is the door to the ancient of days, knows a lot of people. it is a marvelous and strange world we live in. good to be alive,, j in k,,
with your comment, it reminds me of the scripture Philippians 3:12-15 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.
15All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you. 16Only let us live up to what we have already attained. ~lisah
Well, Jack, the statement is dated 2005, and it was for the year 2004. My giving was already sporatic and had dropped considerably by then. I was in the sanctuary till the end, and one of the last things I remember was Dena’s husband sitting there with the rest of us.
I think the last time I danced was in the West side church (1990?). It was in West Plano, and Doyle told us we couldn’t dance again until he told us to… and one day I danced anyway, because God told me to. I don’t think I danced ever again after that. I may be wrong about that. There are holes in my memory, and my kids have them as well.
Doyle told me afterwards not to ever do that again. I should have said “I obey God, and not man”, but now I look back and I can see that I already was beginning to see our deception. After that, my marriage fell apart, I left and went overseas, came back, and sat there a few more years. I’m sure the marriage failing was due to my rebellion again “god” (Doyle)in his eyes. All good things were credited to him and his faith, and all bad things were credited to us and our own rebellion.
It’s good to know now that whatever happens, good or bad, it has nothing to do with anything except my obedience and the condition of my own heart. No one else gets credit for my successes or failures. We are all responsible for our own salvation and we must take accountability for our actions. Doyle can’t save us in spite of what he taught us. Doyle needs to work on saving himself.
I am stuggling with a treaching about saving ourselves by overcoming our flesh by the Spirit. I know that Jesus is coming back after the Bride (church), who is described as those that have put their sinful nature to death. Those are the ones without sin, spot, wrinkle or blemish. They have overcome by putting every thought captive and not yielding to their earthly desires, as well as putting others first before their own needs…(as taught by Brunstad)
We were taught at WOL that the gospel was the power of God unto salvation to all who believed and we were saved by grace, not by works. I am trying to reconcile these two teachings, as they are both scriptual, but appear contradictory, at least to me.
I am not sure what the answer is, but one thing I DO know, is that I break the law much less than I used to while at WOL. There is less sin in my life, not only the sin of unbelief, but the “other” ones as well. There was something wrong with the faith message that we were taught, and it resulted in more sin, not less.
At least for me.
I’m still seeking and praying for answers, but God is faithful, and often send those with the right words and actions to clear things up.
One thing I noticed is that different groups have their favorite scriptures…and that’s the importance of studying to show ourselves approved, as well as praying to be delivered from deception.
Well, I could have given you all the details of my recent trip like the Mia’s (not a typo-pun intended, since Kathy admits she ran, at least for a few minutes), but God is putting things in and out of my heart instead. He was with me during my trip, and no, I didn’t sing while climbing the mountain. I didn’t seek an audience or applause from Korean tourists. His still, small voice was with me, though, as he delivered me from my past and ministered thanksgiving, peace and hope to my spirit.
Let’s see what else the prophetesses of Plano have to say to the world in the next few weeks.
Issy…regarding that last statement you made…..you talking to me? huh? you talking about me? huh? heh heh! rab
I was talking with Steve Lumbley the other day and I Cor. 5 came up.
1It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father’s wife. 2And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this? 3Even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were present. 4When you are assembled in the name of our Lord Jesus and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature[a] may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord.
6Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough? 7Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old yeast, the yeast of malice and wickedness, but with bread without yeast, the bread of sincerity and truth.
9I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
12What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked man from among you.”
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don’t you just love it (not) when people like drool use the “touched not mine anointed”……….or “judge not lest you be judge”. This scripture plainly says we are to judge those inside the church and let God deal with those outside the Body of Christ. ~lisah
RevDRdm: Thank you for that. I book-marked it, so I can listen quite often. Thank you.
Vincent,
I hope everyone scrolled to the end of your listings of religions and their followers. “Doyle 27″…that was classic.
Yep, we have a lot of voices out here and it’s so important to find a place that best fits your understanding of scripture. Wollers have zero understanding. I shy away from those who, as I like to say, make the scripture say something that it doesn’t say. Just stick with scripture, plain and simple. No hype, no marketing!
Here are the Old Testament End-times Prophecy’s, they are pretty scary and were written up to 3400 bc. Maybe the focus should be about being more God like towards the people around you and respecting the place and time you have been givin. doyles blue chairs have lost track of most if not all of the reasons for a higher being and the worship that goes along with it! Anyway for the “show me dont tell me” here are the actual versus.
Isaiah Ezekiel Daniel Joel Amos Zechariah Malachi
Confusion in Last Battle Ezekiel 38:21 Zechariah 12:414:13
7 Years or 3.5 Years Daniel 7:25; 9:2712:7
Corpses Isaih 34:3 Ezekeil 39:11-20 Joel 2:20
Men Killed By Fire Isaiah 13:8,12 24:6 33:14; 34:9 51:6 65:15,16
Ezekeil 38:22 39:6 Zechariah 14:12 Malachi 4:1
Hailstones Ezekiel 38:22
Earthquakes Isaiah 24:18-20 Ezekiel 38:19,20 Joel 3:16 Amos 9:5 Zechariah14:4
Regathering of Israel Ezekiel 37:all
All Nations Gathered to War Isaiah 13:4 66:18 Zech12:1-4
14:2
Jewish Revival Ezekiel 37:9-14 Zech12:10-14 13:1-9
Abomination of Desolation daniel 9:27 12:11
Second Advent Ezek39:21 2:44 Daniel 7:13,14 Zech14:4 Malachi 2:1-3
The Beast, or Antichrist Isaiah14:12-15 Daniel 7:8,24 8:19,26 9:26,27 11:36ff.
Zech 11:15-17
10 Nations Daniel 2:42,44 7:24
Signs in Sky Isaiah13:10 24:23 Joel 2:10,30 3:15 Zech14:6,7
Remnant Saved Joel 2:12,17 3:32 Amos 9:8 Zech 13:8,9 14:2,5
Good job, Jack…
There are so many, I don’t even know where to start…
I have been talking to some poeple in Oklahoma (Brunstad ministry) and lots of these are being adressed in my heart. I am not saying that they are perfect either, but I am learning a lot about how we were lied to and manipulated into following Doyle and made to think that by doing so, we were obeying God.
The first one that comes to mind is when Paul said he did not regard the iniquity in his own heart…and if he did, God would not hear him, but verily, God had heard him.
By not considering what was in our inner man, our wicked hearts were to remain that way until our savior, Doyle, was led to cast the devils out of us, with HIS faith, and deliver us, by HIS power, with HIS gospel.
Our deliverence depended on Doyle having the faith and being led to deliver us. He was led to deliver some more than others. Meanwhile, like Paul, we were not to consider our sin…that would be unbelief! and we all know that doubt and unbelief were the biggest sins made by mankind. By ignoring our sin, we never overcame our flesh by the Spirit as we are insturcted to do. We had to wait until Doyle came along with HIS spirit, to deliver us…(and put us into deeper bondage to him)
Another one was that God set first in the church apostles, secondarily prophets…and you know the rest. That made Doyle, being head honcho Apostle, automatically our “leader” or “god”. My friend Lynn once pointed out to me several months ago when I was struggling with all of this, the ministry of Apostle was presented to us as a TITLE, not a ministry. Anyone that is sent somewhere by God is an Apostle, by definition. At WOL, only the men with the TITLE were considered Apostles, because the head Apostle said so…
We were told back then that any other group that was not lead by 12 apostles is just a religious gathering. Which is what WOL is today..AND I HAVEN’T HEARD HIM SAY THAT SINCE THE 12 APOSTLES JUMPED SHIP, OR PASSED AWAY.
Which reminds me…
Doyle changes his teachings over the years depending on his personal circumstances. Do you all remember in bible school when he would teach that if you were led by the spirit, you would not sin or break the law? He hasn’t taught that, as far as I know, in the past few years, since his Adultery has surfaced. He began emphesizing that the law was not made for a righteous man more often, and righteousness comes by faith, and no one walked in the amount of faith that he did, therefore, he was more righteous than anyone else on the face of the earth. That is why God chose him to “do this job”
He walked perfectly before God all of those years and never sinned, always doing what God instructed him to do. No one else in the world did that! We heard that whatsoever was not faith is sin, and without faith, it was impossible to please God…and the first ones in the pit were the fearful and unbelievers…
but we overlooked the other sins…adultery, fornication, (this was described as “spiritual fornication”: living with Moses while being married to Jesus), disrespecting parents, idolatry, covetousness, stealing…PRIDE…,you get the picture.
Eventually we understood that all of these were fair game as long as we “did em’ in faith”…even murder, if God “told you to”. He gave examples of those in the old testament that killed their enemies because they were God’s enemies. He also gave the example of King David, who wrote the Psalms, and was a man after God’s own heart, but killed a man to take his wife.
If it was okay for David, or Abraham, (who had a child with a concubine) it was okay for Doyle, cuz Doyle HAD MORE FAITH, than anyone else on earth. That’s why all the other ministers, their teaching and their books, were put down…so that Doyle would be raised above them and could get away with things they could not. He could take your business, your wife, or anything else of yours and manipulated it so that it looked like God told you to give it to him…that is what he was doing with Jack Small until reality hit him and he realized that he was giving away his wife and kids and made to feel like he was doing this at his own free will!
Letting Kathie do Doyle’s will was another way Jack could prove his own “faith”…after he gave more than he had and was about to lose his house.
I was going through some old papers yesterday and ran across our tithe statements, as late as 2005! I was there longer than I thought I was! What really struck me was when I can across one of my oldest daughter’s statements. She was in high school at the time of the statement, working as a waitress from the age of 16.
God is blessing us today, and not because we gave to Doyle 10 years ago! We who had the FAITH to leave, according to Doyle, are wicked jezebels who were seduced by the god of this world and are now virgins with no oil…or worse. He has spoken that way about many who are now gone, but while they were giving to WOL, they were “obeying God”. I have heard the ten virgins parable several times from different groups, and each group believes they, and only they, are the five virgins with oil. the rest of us are SOL.
Maybe we are just Christians who finally realized that God did not give us a spirit of fear, but of peace, love, and a sound mind. We are wise to the tactics of the devil now, and no longer need a man, or a group of men, to lead us. We have our own ears to hear what the Spirit of the Lord is saying to us. Our oil comes from HIM and is not “man-made”.
Can I get an Amen?
Yes Ma’am…you have an AMEN from me! love you sister! rab
The religious info came from http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html incase you want to check it out.
Here is a list of the major world religions and their followers. Pretty interesting when you put things in perspective huh.
Christianity: 2.1 billion
Islam: 1.5 billion
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
primal-indigenous: 300 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha’i: 7 million
Jainism: 4.2 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 4 million
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
Tenrikyo: 2 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
$cientology: 500 thousand
doyle: 27
Cheryl – The first Saturday hour was pretty tame with most of it being the Mai girls talking about their trip to Israel. Some highlights:
Candace said when she saw the Wailing Wall and the Jews praying there, it reminded her that when her father went to Israel and prayed at that wall his prayers were heard (”went over the wall”) where the Jews’ prayers weren’t heard because they had not accepted the Gospel.
Ashley said that it was pretty hot over there so she prayed for a breeze and a breeze came up.
Rachael told how she and her sisters and mom sang at Saint Anne’s church and about 100 people on tour heard them. This proved to her that she could minister to anyone in the world. (I have a confession to make here. I have a canary and sing to him once in awhile. In his cage he is also a captive audience but I guess that means I can minister to all the canaries of the world.)
Kathy was a little more wordy than the girls. She rehashed how the weather at Newark Airport caused delayed takeoffs at DFW but she did a weather prayer and eventually their plane was able to take off. Later in her talk she mentioned that right after Terry died she tried to run away. She packed her bags and drove fifty miles before turning back. I kind of interpreted this as her trying to escape from Doyle’s clutches but she wasn’t strong enough. Some day maybe.
Prayer requests:
Would you please put the following two people on your personal prayer list? Greg, a 50 yr from my church that has cancer and will have surgery on Wednesday. Mrs. M, a pt of mine that was told last week she’s terminal (also with cancer). Both are strong believers, but could use prayers for strength and encouragement.
Teachings That Built A Compound Without Walls
1.If the Word is not ministered by the Spirit, it will kill you. This teaching effectively reduces the Bible down to what few scriptures doyle wants to teach “by the Spirit”. And we thought the Catholics were silly to let the Pope do their reading for them. I do agree that there are a lot of scriptures that the desires of the flesh hate. What spirit hates those?
2.There is only God-power and devil-power, no man-power. This teaching effectively undercuts a person’s will and God-given ability to act without either hearing a Voice or feeling a leading. It hog-ties the pinnacle of God’s creation: man with a will. What spirit hates that?
3.Misapplied Isaiah 11:3. “and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears”. Pharisees were the extreme example of people who judged by exterior actions, whereas God knows the heart. You can act righteous on the outside, but be full of wickedness on the inside. Not being fooled by that is the judging that Isaiah says Jesus will do…He will not be fooled by external actions, no matter how “GOOD” they appear. This scripture was turned inside out by doyle, essentially saying to us that no matter how BAD the action appeared, it shouldn’t be judged because we have no discernment! A person can act good, fooling people. We are not called to act bad, and call it good; trying to fool everyone. This twisting of Isaiah 11:3 effectively made ‘right and wrong’ a foreign concept to all wollers and left that determination in doyle’s hands. What spirit would enjoy that?
4.The Moses model: one leader who hears God for all the clueless, unwashed masses (us). This is not a put-down on what actually happened in the Exodus. But God found fault with that system and sent Jesus so that each person could have a personal relationship. What spirit hates that? Using this abandoned-by-God model put everyone in a position of depending on doyle to hear for them, ensuring that they stay close by.
Anyone want to add to??
A MODEST REQUEST FROM MOL CULT: You’ve surely heard Doyle’s rants about how his ancestors built this country and we all eagerly awaited the confirmation of his Pilgrim ancestry, which sadly never came because as it turns out, Doyle’s ancestors actually weren’t on the Mayflower. Doyle’s puffed-up self-importance regularly leads him to tell how he joined the Navy to defend the country but we recently we learned that he joined the Navy to stay out of the Army. Doyle truly believes that the United States was CREATED SOLELY for HIM to “preach the gawspel”. It was not. The United States belongs to all of us. If everyone in the United States behaved the way Doyle does (and did), there would be no United States. When he wraps himself in the Flag and tries to appropriate the actions of others unto himself, just remember: Davidson is a coward and a liar. His own words have convicted him. Davidson’s ‘courage’ is the courage of a bully and petty tyrant who preys on people who either cannot or will not stand up to him and his lies. So here’s the modest request from MOL CULT. Give a listen to: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=21689194 It kind of puts Doyle’s blowhard BS into perspective.
Well the page is loading a little bit faster,,but to be honest,you folks have a lot to say and I like so much of it….It truly pains me to delete anything but dales comments.On the other hand many have asked that the Forum page load faster.My plan is to move 95% of the comments now in bold to a page called”2007-08 comments”
You regulars remember to refer newbies to that page please.It may take me a few days to get that page up as I have to delete the email addreses on all 500 comments before I post them.Rose also has some new ideas for us and while the Forum will remain pretty much the same,focused on”The People” exposing doyle and making the forum page load fast,you may see some other changes before the year is out.
Pray for your monitors Please:Rose,Alan,Meg,CP,LisaH,we believe we are doing the will of God,its an audacious thing to say I know but if you knew what has happened to us since we started this you would understand.,Be sure friends,the administrators of this site have not done this quikly or in jest or without years of prayer.Except for myself and Meg,All the administrators here are from doyles own Cult.We all need your prayers.
I have all the comments ever made here safely saved so dont worry when you see a bunch of them dissapear.
If any regulars have suggestions about what would make this site more enjoyable for you,feel free to email the bobdarwin email or mine,bear7373@yahoo.com
AH
Doyle spent the better part of the second Saturday morning show running back and forth between Terre Browne and Kathie Small who were both having major demon attacks. Doyle, are you stunad (Italian for stupid)? Go out and get them a good Italian Catholic priest exorcist to get the job done right once and for all. It’s obvious you ain’t got what it takes to cast out demons.
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Bob- what happened the first hour? Was there much “sheep beating”? (Verbal abuse)? cp
…. and tell them to bring plenty of “Holy Water or Life”…..
Linda Blair should see this! LOL~~~ cp
Well Jack T. I appreciate you saying that….I did open my eyes but mostly both Alan and I realized we were obeying a MAN, not God!
That’s what scared the bejoovies out of me! When I did finally open my eyes and realized who I was serving…OMG! It was like Katy bar the door….I knew I was in trouble with the Lord if I didn’t do something right away…you see the problem with Doyle ministering all that fear also gave me the Numption to be scared of not SERVING the right GOD!!!
So when you finally realize which GOD you had been serving….whoa! it really is scary!!
Hey Jack, we need to get old Craig Cornwall, Jeff Bay-Anderson, Steve and others to come onto the forum and I can surely bet they have some stories to tell!
Love you all!
Vincent: The demi cult I was raised in seemed to measure the degree of one’s Christianity by how miserable he/she looked. The more misery, the more one was truly “getting” the true experience…sheesh.
I look back on those days and think, where, in all the bible, did they find the verse that said “Jesus and God hate you; they barely tolerate you; and you’re ugly, too”. Strangely, Drool found that same verse….
Meg: I found it, it’s in the Book of Davidson, Chapter 6, verse 66. Yup, it’s right there! ~cp
Daggone it! I was looking forward to sleeping through the night, and you know you can ONLY read the Book of Davidson at 3:33 AM. Meg
rab: You have made my day. Thank you, thank you, thank you. What did you do?? You said, “I told him how I finally opened my eyes.” Thank you for not saying that God opened your eyes. We closed them and we had to open them (when we, each as individuals, reached that tipping point, kinda like drug addicts, when they finally say, “No more”). Ask hubby to give you a big hug for me. NOW, I can quote Forest Gump. Thanks guys, I haven’t had this much fun since I got to ride front seat in a roller coaster as many times as I wanted to. And I laugh more than a hyena on birth control at y’alls side comments. (Thanks Meg and Normal).
If you need a smile and want to see something incredible…just watch the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjbpwlqp5Qw
Enjoy because I surely did and wait till they start singing…
RAHEEM – our little swarthy hunk – this is for you – I can’t stop laughing! Meg
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ROFL ~lisah
Vincent,
That is big news coming from a Woller. To hear Doyle tell it, no one “loves Jesus” unless they attend WoL. Any guesses on how many sessions Kathy and the girls are asked to speak? I can’t wait.
I have a question for Kathy? How does one gauge “how much someone loves Jesus”? I’m being facetious somewhat….and they want to criticise others for being religous. Don’t tell me, show me! That’s the best testimony anyone can offer the world. I know, I know, I’m being critical this hot Saturday. Time for a dip in the pool.
This reminds me of the time everyone who went to WOL who worked at our Computer Company started quitting after Doyle was told by me that our dear friend who was the VP of World Wide Credit Services of the largest vendor and lender we had said we just couldn’t keep giving the kind of money we were giving Doyle….of course before that, he called Alan and I and said GOD told us to give him our company, I didn’t hesitate to tell him that God hadn’t told me that….HE SCREAMED OVER THE PHONE TO ME AND SAID “HE JUST DID”…..??@#!%….What the….whoa…So I guess Doyle couldn’t take all the bad news….and I was the one that had to tell Doyle what I wish I could have said back then and that’s “GO JUMP IN THE LAKE, YOU SNAKE”!!!!….of course that conversation did not go well and to say the least, never saw Doyle set another foot on the premises….what? I thought as a spiritual leader, it wasn’t suppose to be about money? Man I had some pretty expensive and hefty prayers I payed for…just think if we only knew we could deal with God directly without Doyle where we would have been today???? Shortly after that, I can remember Jonathan A. came into my office and said he was leaving as well. Jonathan was one of our first employees and had stuck by us through thick and thin and I was so surprised, but deep down I knew he had drunk the kool-aid too….but the one thing he told me was that I was not going to Heaven and I jumped up and asked him “Jonathon are you saying just because I don’t go to WOL I can’t believe in Jesus”? You know I think in so many words he pretty much believed and said I wouldn’t, so I told him I would be just fine and that I would obey God and not a man anymore. I told him how I finally opened my eyes.
Jonathon and his wife left shortly after we did. He and many others went through a lot of the stuff Doyle ministered to all the sheep, but overcame and today is very happy supporting his son who has become a very fine young man who is gifted and talented in many areas getting ready to enter college. Jonathon is the best father and husband I have ever seen. He had a lot of the curses that Doyle placed on many who left, but has overcome a lot….we love you Jonathon and we pray everything stays as well as it is today! rab
well it looks like doyles version of anyone else whos a christian is now debunked! kathy mai said she met other people who love jesus as much as they do,,,,, now what can doyle say about everyone else on the planet who goes to church?
As I read Isabel and Jack T’s comments about God’s forgiveness, I will repeat what I may have already mentioned sometime back.
I attended a lifelong friend’s funeral who died of pancreatic cancer. He knew he was dying and spent a lot of time visiting with his minister. The minister mentioned in the service that Carl, who was a Christian, asked him about all the things he had done wrong. I loved the minister’s comment which is much like Isabel’s. “Carl, that’s where GOD’S GRACE comes in”. Thanks be to God for His Grace, His love and His compassion for us.
I still feel betrayed that Doyle’s second wife was not revealed to most of us, along with all the rest of the details of his life in general that he always regalled us with. That was something that should have been told to us from the beginning. Yes, many of us would have left, but we were never given the opportunity to make that decision without knowing the facts until God said “enough”. The truth finally came out as Doyle HAD NO CHOICE but to reveal his sordid little affair, and then try to disguise it as a marriage to those stupid enough to swallow that story. Once you tell one lie, you have to keep lying…his marriage to Kathie Small is yet another lie. Doyle lives his lies to the point where he believes them and calls this “faith”.
Good Day ALL you wonderful Peeps!
Meg, your last comment touched me heart and was really a blessing for me to start this wonderful and beautiful day! Thank you so much for that!
Alan H. and I will be working with Meg and the other moderators next week in trying to clean-up and improve our forum site and introduce some new stuff that will edify us in our daily walk with Jesus.
I hope all of you “forum peeps” will help pitch in on anything you would like to see on our forum as well..
With that being said, I thought if it were not too much trouble from some of you if you could please take a few minutes to write out a testimony. I know some of us would be so encouraged to hear some of the Jack’s and Bob B. testimony especially since you two have been the only two who have stepped up and posted some comments that have helped minister to all of us!!
Please take a few minutes and give us your wonderful testimony and let us hear the blessings God has done for you and your family since you have left WOL.
Send them to: bobdarwin99@yahoo.com
God Bless all of you and have a great weekend!
Aaaarrrrgggghhhh – can’t believe we didn’t hook up at all this visit – so far, you’re up to 3 jars of jam – strawberry, raspberry and loganberry – with blackberry and kotata yet to come…guess I’l have to ship ‘em. Unless Raheem would let me send ‘em by goat cart!
Meg
Meg, that is terrific news about your brother. Praise God for His true healing power purchased with the stripes on His back.
Hey Michael, good to see you posting here. We’ve missed you…. have a great weekend-Cheryl
Meg: puts things in the proper perspective, doesn’t it?
Let’s consider Matthew 25:40 :And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
and then visualize WOL, seeing Jesus occupying a blue chair there every night.
Doyle has screamed in his face that he’s stupid, cursed at him, demeaned him, every time he’s done so to the WOLlers.
Doyle has told lies about both Jesus and his father, God, and twisted their words.
Doyle has discussed pornography ad nauseum – in front of Jesus. He has betrayed the trust of everyone he has come in contact with, including Jesus.
Doyle and the WOLlers have corrupted the minds and spirits of little children. In front of Jesus.
Doyle has announced that HE is God’s annointed Apostle. To Jesus.
Doyle’s forced his family members to sing until they collapse.
Doyle has denied his “girls” education so they have the ability to support themselves, to do anything useful to minister to the world, to grieve for their husband and father. While Jesus watched.
Doyle forces the women to dance and the boys to humiliate themselves under his guidance, while Jesus stood next to him, and tells them Jesus wants them to do it.
Doyle has paraded his mistresses, his flagrant disregard for the law, for morals, for ethics, and for those whose spiritual care he was entrusted with. And all while Jesus was in the room observing.
Remember that verse?
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Sobering thought for anyone, isn’t it?
Meg: Awesome news about your brother! Let the heathen rage, but the God of the whole earth rocks!!
departure and arrival times make you wicked? and sit on your rear? hittin the bottle obviously
Yup,a little bottle worship b4 services,and your right,he also jumped down the wol’s throats for thinkin they could sit on there hineys and told them to Fight!He also gets his words mixed up at 1 point and sorta praises satan,what a goof.
ah
I watched american Idoyle.He started out on the floor,no prayer.The only thing he said was”Lets worship God”.About half way thru he says that the mai girls sent him text messages and they werent just about arrival and departure times !!Were in a War!! he said,then back to singing and dancing.Near the end he comes back on for a few minutes,nothing worth reporting.Lots of slurring tonight.
AH
SPEAKING OF HEALINGS! Meg! that’s great news! thank you, Jesus!
Someone was healed and Doyle’s faith was not the cause! now THAT’S a miracle!
I know I sound sarcastic, but I am truely grateful for what God can do with His people in spite of our unbelief. All it takes is some humility for Him to grant grace in our time of need. We serve a longsuffering, compassionate, and merciful God.
His mercy endures forever! AMEN
Meg – That was wonderful news about your brother. Thank you for letting us know.
Dearest Forum Peeps: Please, please, please – stop reading for a sec and take a minute to thank God. My brother had his first CT and MRI, 1/3 of the way through his treatment. They were TOTALLY clean. NO sign of cancer at all. He’ll finish out the year of chemo, and all being well, by Christmas, per the docs, can consider himself back to normal.
I’m dancing with joy here!
Blessings and thanks for all your prayers!
Wow!
Can I say a prayer?
“Father, thank you for this good news from Meg. Lord, we lift her brother up to you, and we give YOU all the praise, glory, and honor, for this good medical report. You, Our God, hear our prayers. You are our Healer! We thank you for dear precious Meg, and for her brother. We pray for continued GOOD REPORTS, and we EXPECT Meg to keep us informed of his good progress. We are deeply thankful for you ARE a good and loving Father- Amen”
In Christ,
Meg
Hello George and WELCOME to the Forum!
I’m Cheryl. I do not own nor run this website, I am merely a Moderator, to approve the comments, as they are posted.
Yes, I use humor, and can be a bit sarcastic with it, too.
It’s what we “Forum Peeps” (thanks, JackT!) call a healing technique…
Seriously,
there are some very damaged people on this Forum. Let’s say, more are HEALED from the damage that Doyle Davidson and Water of Life did to them.
I was one of them, as well as my sister: LisaH.
Her “testimony” is at the top of this page, right now.
We both attended WOL from 1983-1992, or there abouts.
When we both witnessed Doyle’s adultery with a married woman, in hidden places, we left WOL.
George, you probably don’t know this, but Doyle NEVER revealed to the church members that his Mistress was his “Wife”. Maybe he called her that to the “apostles” of WOL, but we common folk had no clue.
She was NEVER presented as his WIFE. He began his affair, with her, when his legal wife Patti Davidson was still alive. It was adultery, pure and simple. This “Wife” story was concocted to make it more palatable/acceptable to the WOL people still there. They swallowed it like baby birds. Some left in 1992, when we told them what we saw, some left later, some left recently, when “Kathie Small” ,, “Wife #3″ was presented…. that was the last straw for many people.
As a demon screamer myself and NOT proud of it, I will tell you the truth:
GEORGE: THIS IS LEARNED BEHAVIOR. I did it, I know..
It’s like a mass hysteria that takes over a whole bunch of people. IT IS NOT REAL!
Yes, people were healed there.
It was their FAITH, and GOD….
Doyle has twisted sciptures to fit his adulterous lifestyle for years.
Anyway, I am just telling you- there is nothing, absolutely NOTHING scriptural about Water of Life- Doyle lies every time he opens his mouth.
He will be held responsible for the souls of WOL.
God bless you, and we are glad you are here. Just be patient with us, George: some are new to this Forum and their wounds are deep and painful.
Mine are mostly healed, but my children are scarred.
Kindest Regards to you George,
Cheryl P.~ my real name
Thankyou Cheryl,alan havlick.
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Thanks, Alan. I pray that one day, the emotional and spiritual abuse that I put my own children through, via attending WOL will be healed. WOL Parents: if you have one brain cell working- get your kids OUT of there! Doyle’s “teachings” RUINED my kids. My son struggles with believing that there is even a GOD, and my daughter still has scars from Doyle saying snotty things to her and embarrassing her. I have asked them both to forgive me for making them go there- the rest: well, that is God’s Dept. Please pray that He heals ALL the WOL kids from this destructive cult. ! cp
It is so sad that Kathie and Jack Small and all the current WOL parents have created a prison for their children and have made them slaves to Doyle Davidson in the name of serving and worshipping The Lord. God did not create these little ones to dance in circles and hear the Mais singing the same old songs over and over seven days a week, nor to listen to a crazy old coot scream and yell about his ancestors, pornographic barber shops, red dragons, wicked Baptists and Catholics, death wishes for ex-church members, etc., etc. This is not worshipping the Lord, this is insanity. Because of protection of freedom of religion these parents cannot be punished by civil law for what they have to for these kids but they eventually will have to answer to a higher authority. I would not want to be in their shoes when it comes time to pay the piper.
David:
A peepaw certainly does count and I should have put it at the front of the list, except I have no idea what it is! Is it like,” of the peepaw, by the peepaw, and for the peepaw??”
Jack T, does a “peepaw” count? Keep up the good work. I enjoy your contribution to this forum. You bring not only facts about WoL, but humor. I like that.
We are so blessed to have so many ex-water of life people here.Sure,I could point out doyles hypocracy all day,no problem,like shooting fish in a barrel really but to have the actual People and Apostles come here and expose him,,,I believe it is a work of The Father and my heart cries out in worship and thankfulness when I consider it.I thank God for you folks and want to thank You for swallowing your pride or fear or privacy ect etc etc. and coming here to let the world know,
DO NOT FOLLOW DOYLE DAVIDSON,FOLLOW GOD ALMIGHTY.
AH
MOL CULT has stumbled upon an interesting website. http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Doyle_Davidson.aspx Download your favorite Doyle soundbites such as “Are you ready for this?” and “Gawd BLESS you ignert people!” Check it out.
hey REV—-my sister LisaH. found TWO of these. They are hysterical to listen to, but pathetic at the same time. My favorite is: “Gawd gave me a Waff! And she’s a SL*T!!! How’d yew lak it if gawd gave yew a SL*T fer a waff? Her nayme is Laysuh ‘n she’s a sl*t”!
Ahhhhhhhhh- how proud DD must be. Doyle’s “gawd” sure has some good taste now doesn’t he?
Nah…… cuz it’s NOT the REAL TRUE GOD that Dull is talking about….
Yeh, it’s hilarious! I cracked up when I first heard it, and coughed from laughing so hard!
Kindest Regards to REV,
CP
I read that junk under Kathie’s page. I think she is letting her daughter know she will not go to college, but she will be stuck like Kathy & Candance Mai….right under Doyle’s thumb at all times.
To all forum peeps, peepettes, and non-forum peepers:
I really am enjoying the dynamic of this forum. When I have more time, I would like to give a couple of my favorite examples. But for now, I would like to post about the “clean-up re-post”. There is not a week that doesn’t go by that I am not embarrassed by what I said or frustrated in how I said it. I think I only succumbed to the apologetic re-do once. But, hey, I was exhausted…I went home and slept for two days. (I learned to make excuses from somewhere…???) Anyhoo, none of my posts will ever be intentional, personal put-downs on anyone here AND I will never read anyone’s post about me or to me as a put-down. Sound-bite humor can be misunderstood, but I choose to not misunderstand it. As I tell the people around me, I don’t take hints (being a typical guy), so if ya got anything to say to me, please make it plain ’cause I ain’t gonna read anything into anything, otherwise. And I hope no one reads anything into my stuff either. God bless.
Over the years Doyle has criticised many in the charismatic movement and much of may be justified. His “annointing sucking” doctrine is certainly a sham as are many other man-made sayings like “slain in the spirit”. You won’t find it anywhere in scripture but you will find those who vehemently support it including some of my family members.
Stretching, I like to say prostituting scripture, is everywhere. Some take two words, “word of knowledge” and build ministries on it. (Money cometh) Some take a scripture about “joy” and come up with the “laughing” fad.
I think you get the picture. Error abounds all around us but nothing as strange that comes from the apostle in Plano. Stay with pure and simple scripture and you won’t get in spiritual hot water. The scripture if complete….no hidden meanings. Hey Doyle, can you read 5th grade? Do you have ears to hear?
Isabel is right. There is nothing in scripture about faith being sucked out of somebody.
Paul does, however write about shipwrecked faith that comes about by rejecting a good conscience. (1 Timothy 1:18-19). Maybe this is what Mr Davidson has been experiencing?
Jack T. I’m all for it. Hopefully that day will come soon. Then who will get blamed for things going wrong?
BB
Hello Bob B: If the only way doyle can get this thing to work perfectly is to have NO ONE around him, then I think he ought to go for it and do just that.
This ’stealing/sucking the anointing” discussion reminded me of another couple of incidents. Early on (back in the 80’s) someone came into the church building during the day and stole Kathy Neblett’s purse (she was the secretary back then). DD told everyone of the event and then blamed John Ferguson and me for the theft. Not that we actually stole the purse but it was our fault that it was taken. Huh? I thought. That was one of the first times I thought he was behaving strangely.
Another incident was when some of the “apostles” and he were flying back from Tulsa or somewhere and we had to divert to Addison airport because of bad weather. Again, it became the fault of the unbelieving “apostles” that the weather turned bad.
We evidently were much stronger in our unbelief than DD was in his faith.
BB
Why, Bob What a pleasure to meet a fellow “responsible” soul. I will frequently, when having a bad day, announce that I am also responsible for such disasters as the Challenger explosion, Chernobyl, and Hurricane Katrina. It’s excellent that I’m married to neither you, nor John Ferguson -the world would never survive such a union!
Meg
I watched a few minutes of a 2007 WOL broadcast the other night. As has been previously pointed out in this forum, There’s a very noticeable change in Doyle in just two years; his physical and mental condition is rapidly deteriorating.
In the 2007 broadcast, Doyle was still competently affecting his Growlin’ Bully voice, and his movements were quick and studied. Quite a contrast to the slurring stumblebum he is today.
If he lives for another four years, I’ll be surprised.
I have enjoyed Jack T. and Bob B. comments and honesty. It’s to bad that JR won’t humble himself and for the sake of everyone who was mislead and stolen from,and at least repent of his part in it, if he wants to teach. Otherwise his writings mean nothing and are just a repeat of old Doyle’s teachings(which we now know Doyle did not believe). It’s one thing to write or post your opinion on the Bible and religious issues(which I do) and quite another, to take peoples money and represent yourself to have a ministry from God(which I don’t).
the last time i looked at his website, i saw no repentence. interesting!! they have been gone since 2004, you think something would have been said about the affair and to ask the body of christ to forgive them. they took lots and lots of money from the cultshack. it was their only source of income as far as i know. ~lisah
http://jrstaton.com/
Jack, For Doyle to make a comment like that AFTER you leave is no suprise. Linda Sampson posted her testimony on this site a while back and Doyle called her out by name the very next day on his program! It is so common for cult leaders to turn against their ex- members and those they formerly manipulated once they leave, and this is one of many consistant signs of a cult.
I have been looking into studies on such groups and reading various blogs. Here is a part of someone’s comment regarding a different situation. You can easily relate this to WOL and it is exactly what we have experienced and have been commenting on recently. So many clues, so many passes! Read it and weep, Doyle and you WOLbangers!
exerpt-
I know I’ve mentioned the recent documentary on Jonestown before, and I don’t want to run that into the ground, but it is so revealing because of all the interviews with the survivors themselves. One thing that jumps out at me is that they all, still to this day, recall those days with such fond memories. They speak about what great and wonderful things they were accomplishing as a church. They were out to change the world and make it a better place and they all STILL think that they were so very close to accomplishing that. They loved their church.
But at the same time, they reveal all these things that were going on behind the scenes that were, in retrospect, lies, manipulation, and immoral. And they were so focused on the goal of their changing the world and thought that they were so close to that goal that they chose to ignore the bad things. They were so focused on that goal that they couldn’t see that it wasn’t real. They ignored the reality because the imagined goal looked and felt so good.
And in the end the whole house of cards came crashing down.
Yeah, after we left he announces on tv how I stole his anointing one time. Then just a couple of weeks later, when talking about David and Saul, he said that only God could give or remove an anointing. So, which is it?? So many clues, so many passes.
Speaking of physical indicents…
A good friend of mine was worshipping God one day, we had a church in a motel in Denton for while, and at one point, Doyle walked up to her and SHOVED her, as she had her eyes closed and hands raised. This was not an accident. He told her angrily that she was “sucking the faith” out of him.
Some “fruit of the Spirit” he was demonstrating, right?
NOW…if he walks in such great faith, how come my friend could “suck faith” from him?
These were some of the “spiritual games” that Doyle played with people, building himself to be something that he wasn’t.
Hey, Doyle: Instead of jetting around the country to raise the dead, why don’t you start in your own back yard and cast the devils out of Beulah Denton, who I am sure you claim is demonized like Dena. She is only a few blocks away…and still waiting for you.
Why are the objects of your attention always attractive, sane (appearing) with nice clothes and cute body parts? Why are you not able to cast the devil out of those that don’t dance circles around you?…oh, I know, you don’t cast them out “at will”. You do what God tells you to do….well, He is no respecter of persons Doyle…like you!
According to Doyle 3:16, devils only come out under certain conditions and types of people.
Hey, I heard recently that that Matloff dude is looking for another con man to be his roomate…he could be your next waff. Oh, I forgot, Beulah already accepted that position.
I’ll update you forum folks about Beulah by private e-mail.
Meg,
You are right. We can indeed read interesting and edifying stories in the Gospels. The recollections and stories Mr Davidson recounts remind me more of the endless genealogies and meaningless talk that Paul warns against in 1 Timothy 1. They are not edifying, don’t demonstrate godly fear and I just don’t see how they would ever stir anyone up to love and good works (Hebrews 10:24).
In short, I don’t see the gospel preached at WOL in any shape or form. Not surprising, of course. One must live the gospel to be able to preach it in spirit and truth.
It is now only a matter of time before shameful hidden things will be manifest at WOL. What is seen outwardly reflects what is happening inwardly and some of the shameful hidden sins will surprise even the harshest critics when they are exposed. And what will happen to th sheep when the shepherd is cut down? I wish the young people at WOL could taste the real power of the gospel: the word of faith that can bring victory, power, life and joy.
David: For the record, the RevDr title is one that Billy Cabernet and I awarded ourselves when we founded MOL CULT. It was meant to be a put down in response to Doyle’s constant denegration of education and yet NEVER failing to let everyone about his university degrees and the Veterinary practice which he sold. (Did you know that?) I have been a bit cagey about being too self-revealing here BECAUSE Doyle is a mean-spirited, vindictive person. I have professional credentials and affiliations and, sad to say, all it takes is a phone call to the right authorities (we all answer to somebody) and even BASELESS accusations can result in more bureaucratic hassle than I am inclined to deal with, especially any which would originate from Doyle. CONSEQUENTLY, I am making no claim whatsoever to ANY title or degree as that would be a tip-off inviting some kind of brainless retaliation for the things I write here. Suffice it to say that, unlike Doyle, if I cannot speak with a degree of real knowledge about a subject, I don’t speak about it. I’ll oppose Doyle but I’m not going to open myself to any attempt to professionally injure me. I’ve lately been thinking about changing my nom de guerre to just REV because, as Doyle proves, ANYONE can be a Self-Proclaimed Reverend.
Monday night:
Mr Davidson is right. If anyone treats his granddaughters in the way that he has treated the wives of at least two other men, that person deserves a good beating.
Oh, can I add: Over someone else’s woman, to boot!! What a double-sham.
Clues, clues, clues. Yeah, doyle told that story many times about how the Navy would not totally change their scheduling for him, an enlisted man, because of kathy’s impending birth. (They couldn’t even wait a few days!!) It really showed back then what a whiney-baby he is when he doesn’t get his exact way at all times. The solution? Make sure that you are in charge and everyone is brow-beaten into subservience. Years ago after lisa left him, some of us non-apostles were talking about how devastated our “strong” leader had become. Over a woman, no less! What a sham.
BTW, the military is just as happy to fill those less dangerous billets as they are the more dangerous ones because it takes all kinds of jobs to make it work. There is no shame in it, just don’t act like you were big and bad when you weren’t.
wicked people, stupid people, gawd bless you idiots…………………..
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=doyle+davidson&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=QBFSSoDkKNbJtgfrjqyiBA&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4#
gawd it talking to you!!!!
Hey guys
Well, I checked out the reports from Israel after Meg referred to it earlier today. That story that kathy relates about climbing the mountain in 1974 has an important (in my opinion) segment conveniently left out. Whenever it was told in the past, kathy was willing to proceed but needed to rest but doyle said that he wasn’t going to let her slow him down, so he just left them there and went on. Kathy reached inside and caught up with her dad at the top. That story always bothered me because I would have waited and coached and encouraged (and God forbid, helped) my daughter and we would have made the climb together at, albeit, a slower pace, but a much more satisfying and love-filled pace, for sure. The story shows (in a small way) how heartless and driven doyle is. In the old days it was no big deal to tell the whole story. Now, in her Israel updates, to expose that side of her dad, probably just cut too close to the quick. Godspeed.
And there we have the difference between a good dad, and a bad dad. Meg
On 7/4/09, Terry Mai had a new post. “As most of you know, Terry went to heaven quite unexpectedly in late January.” Um, actually, MOL didn’t find it unexpected. How sad that we were more prepared than his nearest and dearest.
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I agree Meg: I seriously doubt that Terry Mai’s death was “unexpected”. Cancer (that’s curable with medicine) plus + refusal of said meds, = death…. what is so unexpected about that? Can’t these people open their mouth, or type on a keyboard just ONCE, without lying or twisting the truth, or conveniently leave out facts? A HEART ATTACK is “unexpected”, a stroke is “unexpected”. Geez- try, just try Blue Chairs, to tell the TRUTH, all the TRUTH, just ONCE! It would be refreshing!!!
First, there are really two wols. You can get a small glimpse of the good ole days from some things that Isabelle posted earlier today. She is not delusional, all that good stuff she referred to was real. Then there is the wol of today. But I stayed through the second wol and ….y’all know the rest of the story. Whenever I would see cults or sects on TV, with their long dresses and funny hair, I would think about how they are ideologically-driven, whatever that ideology might be. And I wondered how they could EVER buy into it. But wol, with all its culture, etc was not really ideologically-driven (okay, we knew the definition of the gospel), but it was performance-driven. When we prayed we got results. Yes, doyle got worse, but our prayers got answered, so people stayed. The culture was (or should have been) just a by-product. You can see the vestiges of this when kathy thinks her prayers got that plane to take-off on time. Though we think that is silly, it shows that it is still performance-driven. Her ‘answered prayer’ wipes away (in her mind) all the bs she lives in. Current wollers haven’t figured out yet that they can maintain their relationship with God w/o all the bs. What they REALLY haven’t learned is that God approves of us correctly judging the bs and our relationship with Him actually improves once we leave. (Fat chance that the cauthorns will believe that!) All that’s to say (and I detest it when people try to re-write their personal history): there were many positive things in the beginning. That’s why the feelings of hurt, of anger, and of being betrayed run so deeply.
Watching “Best of WOL” (Fri nite II) and now I have a question after seeing Terry and Doyle stand there and shout over and over and over and over at all these supposedly demon-harboring folks coughin’ and cryin’ that never seem to get better. In the New Testament, without fail, every time a demon or evil spirit is removed from someone or someone is healed of whatever infirmity or sickness, it says the person was whole “immediately” and usually “went on their way rejoicing” or something similar. Never is there a reference to Jesus or Paul or anyone with the ability to do so speaking MORE THAN ONCE to heal a person or remove an evil entity or the person having to return over and over for help. Am I right or am I right?
You are right.
ah
My two cents on the question of did I ever see DD intoxicated at church..
It was not at all unusual to see him stagger and grab for something for balance, but he attributed it to the following verse from I Kings 8:11
“So that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of the LORD”
Of course he continued to stand and walk around and “minister” after the staggering. I often wondered as I was driving to church whether we would see Dr. Davidson or Mr. Hyde. More and more often as time went by it was Mr. Hyde. I don’t know if this was the devil’s brew (haha) or not.
Bob
With the Fourth of July Holiday nearly upon us, it is fitting to look back at what was going on last year on the Forum. In June 2008, the Forum was deeply depressed. Lisa did not return to Doyle, publicly confess the error of her ways, go to California with Doyle and get it on with the conceiving of ‘John’. In a desperate attempt to buck up morale (if not morals), MOL CULT held the First (and apparently only) Annual Fourth of July/John Wesley’s Birthday Bash in the recently repaved WOL Shack parking lot. (You may remember the excitement in every state house and government office in the WORLD when Doyle posted aerial photos of the new paving job, as per Gawd’s will.) The 4th/JW B-DayBash was a rousing success and we thought it would be nice to recount some of the highlights here today. Raheem was on hand with generous portions of Goat-B-Que prepared and the hearty repast was topped off by servings of Candace’s personally baked “CMaiPie” (sweet, but very tart and looked better than it tasted) Lisa Staton made a surprise guest appearance and was hostess for the ‘Bobbing For Lisa’s Melons’ tank full of watermelons. Doyle personally judged the contest, pronouncing Lisa’s melons over-ripe and somewhat dirty, but still able to float. Later, Doyle, erratically wielding the starters pistol at the beginning of the skateboard race in the Parking Lot accidentally (?) wounded two of the participants (”the little bast***s!!”) and nearly shot himself before the race got underway. Had we known the exact state of his visual impairment at the time, we would have just let him wave a flag. On the main stage, the melodious tones of basso profundo Terry Mai, accompanied by himself ‘on tape’, enraptured the audience with an interminable rendition of WOL favorites followed by ‘An Exhibition Of The Dance’ featuring Terry Brown as lead dancer in a stunning costume of white hot pants over taupe panty-hose and flowery top. Rosie Brucie was overheard to comment that Terry looked “really hot”. Mrs. Small, at that point in time, was relegated to obscurity since Gawd had not yet revealed to Doyle that SHE was to be his New Replacement Waf, taking over from Lisa. In the hot afternoon, the dunk tank was a huge attraction and KFC graced us with a turn in the tank. She was repeatedly submerged and spent the rest of the day trying to do something about her hair. In a surprise highlight, The Apostle himself, entered the dunk tank to raise money for jet rentals later next year. The honorary first pitch was thrown by Rosie Brucie. After hitting Doyle with beanballs twice and thus rendering him even more stuperous, Rosie relented, aimed at the actual target and nailed it. Doyle hit the water like a pi****-off tomcat and nearly drowned before being dragged to safety. After being wrung out, Doyle continued on to the highlight of the day: a Bottle Rocket Duel with JR (Snake) Staton. JR was repeatedly cautioned about aiming for Doyle’s one good eye and the contest went through about 39 dozen bottle rockets before being called a draw by referee RevDR Billy Cabernet, co-founder of MOL CULT. Doyle was immediately treated in the First-Aid tent with cold compresses and several bottles of House Red, generously donated by Cheddar’s of Plano. In a spectacular grand finale, one of Raheem’s goat accidentally set the fireworks storage tent on fire and what was supposed to be a 45 minute gala fireworks display (sponsored by MOL CULT) went off all at once, resulting in an impressive crater in the newly repaved parking lot and a huge temper tamtrum by Doyle. A good time was had by some and a motion was put forth and carried 2-to-1 to have another celebration next year If WOL was still in business. That would be 2009 but, due to other pressing concerns, no 4th of July / John Wesley’s Birthday Bash was scheduled for tomorrow. Better luck next year. MOL CULT hopes you enjoyed the little trip (and fall) down Memory Lane.
I’d just like to throw in a few miscellaneous thoughts: I think that it is funny that no one is really quite clear as to whether doyle is drunk or not. I would HOPE that people could tell the DIFFERENCE in my behavior. Just to help y’all out, I was told by someone who finally exited ’cause of the Small thing, that the sure-fire sign is when he does all that mouth-wiping. Secondly, in response to RevDrdm’s recent post on doyle’s projections, I’ll never forget how he came out blasting all of us one morning for believing that gain was godliness and then spent the next 45 minutes ‘proving’ how God was in HIS life. How? with story after story about MONEY!! Thirdly, in RevDr’s same post he addressed doyle’s ability to hold two conflicting thoughts at the same time. I enjoyed the litany of examples. What was glaringly MISSING is doyle’s INABILITY to hold the two necessary but conflicting thoughts that Jesus is both God and man. Godspeed.
Back during the Schlosser trial, two very good articles were written about Doyle. One of the writers went to Doyle’s hometown of Sarcoxie, MO, to get the locals take on Doyle. I remember one man saying that “Doyle was pretty full of himself (no changes there) and he was known as a SKIRTCHASER”. (Evidently no changes in all these years.)
I agree with Bob, I believe this old boy loves his porn and his kinky activities. I remember how Jimmy Swaggart use to bombast everyone about sex, sex, sex, and look what happened to him. Those that constantly harp on porn, sex, etc, are usually involved in it themselves. Hey Doyle, Kathi, just admit it. Doyle is an old, limp man who can’t perfom any longer. Kathi, what were you thinking? What do you think when Doyle rants that John will be born? What do you think your children are thinking about all this? Do you have any self respect left? Are you familiar with any scriptures in the New Testament about how one is supposed to live their life?
Doyle is having a long public emotional wank tonight. I’m anything but a prude, but there is something really disgusting about Doyle ranting about porn, especially with young children in the audience.
Mr Davidson has no lesser or higher wife. He doesn’t have a wife at present. He is a widower living with another man’s wife. I believe the correct biblical expression is “adulterer” and the person he is living with is called an “adulteress”.
David,
Yes, there are followers who believe they are going to hell if they do not tithe to Doyle. He programmed them to believe this! Remember, last year when Doyle told people to send to the church that is in their Motel state? He led one to believe that the monies would stay in that church..NOT, it’s sent to Plano…well makes sense, right! After all, that’s where the money needs to go to support the con and his affairs.
David.
People from all over the state send in tithes….so to speak. and of course Doyle would like you to believe it stays at that church, when in fact it gets sent to WOL. I am sure it gets expensive raising other people’s kids and wives!
Who said Peacock had money? Those guys do NOT get paid by Doyle, everyone in the little Motels works! There’s a concept….WOL.
You know I was sitting here thinking of the maybe few people left out in the US of A that MIGHT still be listening to Doyle on the web and it occurred to me that because some of them don’t probably get on the web very much, but have got a son or daughter who has hooked them up to do so just to see this old worm, well it just makes me sick that they probably won’t ever see our forum…so I am requesting a TV station to get in touch with me (I’m sure I’ll have calls coming in by the thousand, but please be patient, cause I am a very busy woman, No not a busybody…)cause I want to start up a program about Doyle….A REAL TV STATION, one that shows up everywhere and one that will expose this flea infested maggot with all the evil doings he is doing to all still there…
I also got to thinking how because there were so many WOL people that worked at our Computer Company, it was hilarious how if Doyle needed to know something about the company all he had to do was pick up the phone and call any of the employees there and they were like a bunch of hound dogs sniffing around looking for stuff to find on my husband Alan B. and myself to report back to their evil boss (trust me hubby and I weren’t consider the bosses even though I was the CEO and he was the President)he would actually have secret meetings with some of our sales people? I wouldn’t find out till afterwards and all he would say is that they were unhappy…well duh…yeah, I was letting this old fart run our business or at least think he was when in fact, he was a thorn in my side..who wouldn’t be… it was Doyle and his puffed up chest who would walk around like a big shot thinking he was in charge…..mostly it was one person who would squeal the most, but she was his right hand woman back then!!
I remember when he came to my office one day and said that GOD told him that our company needed to make him a consultant to our company and pay him directly and personally $5,000.00, (okay…I thought, you are already here everyday doing nothing and getting a nice tithing for that, I thought to myself…but we don’t need a consultant?) He barely did anything to begin with but walk around with his cup of coffee…. He announced it that evening at church and told everyone that our company would be blessed having him there. BROTHER….
I just get so angry cause I know that money was going to help support his affair with Lisa now looking back cause had Alan and I known that, we sure wouldn’t have contributed to this awful mess!! However we found out he bought her new furniture for her house that she conveniently got right after he started as a consultant… I thought EVEN back then WOW! that’s on top of the $25,000.00 a month we gave him from our company not including what we gave personally……so at first I was like boy that’s a lot of money we could use for the business cause we were just starting up a new company and some of our creditors were also our Vendors and they never questioned our financial statements because we always had pretty good sales….but then finally Alan my husband started questioning our givings and said we can’t continue giving this kind of money cause it keeps us from paying our vendors sometimes and that’s almost like borrowing to pay tithes…so the next time I talked to Doyle, he got really mad and was pretty vocal….you know the old saying “OBEY GOD” which really meant…you stupid “BIT–” you better obey ME!!!
Well enough of the past….sometimes I just have to vent to get over stuff…I know I have said this before, but I’ve really never said how much we gave and I’m not saying it to be puffed up but for some of you newbies who may need some background on some of us old timers…it has been a long road we have all traveled, but the end of the road for Doyle and all our healing is just close enough for all of us to have a lot of HOPE!!! so I thought saying the amount would really “SET ME FREE”!! aaaahhhhh, I feel so much better!
Hey Doyle how about “obeying GOD” and giving all our money back! Thank GOD we didn’t listen to you about 401k’s, savings accounts, life insurance,medical insurance, etc….I guess GOD was with both hubby and I cause we socked the limit on 401k’s and anything else we could save…for some reason it just didn’t make sense not to?
BTW, Doyle if you are reading this…I loved your show Friday…I showed it to my sister and she and I had some good entertainment for free! I wonder what Jezzie made you fall…
Doyle hasn’t mentioned old Campos in probably a year of longer. This guy came to Plano once and isn’t much of a speaker. Curt Hurley in Missouri is never mentioned anymore since their son, one of Doyle’s apostles, was convicted of child molestation and his wife divorced him. He rarely mentions Indiana since Mike Carter came to his senses. You no doubt have seen Peacock and he and KFC run a close race to see who is the worst. Justin Lernky finally wised up and bolted the IL/Wisconsin scene after Doyle demanded he move to Plano with Candace in mind no doubt. Doyle’s empire has shrunk big time. Not sure why he still has all those “churches” listed. I guess to make himself feel like a big operator. Same thing with some others like Randy Brooks and Dewayne Jackson. Both have been gone for some time. Doyle is falling fast like last Friday night’s plunge off the platform.
Hey guys. Regarding kathy m. not helping doyle get up: I’m not saying that her conscience is not seared. I’m not saying that she hasn’t been bled of the last shred of human kindness. I am saying that she knows that NOBODY helps doyle in his moments of weakness. She saved herself a good chewing out. Its not only jezzie that pushes one down, but jezzie in the person who tries to help out because that is jessie in that person trying to keep you weak. (Probably too much info that we all could have lived without) Godspeed.
Was it a sin to laugh at that…?It just came out,in fact I was trying to concentrate on How he fell,that right side will be sore for awhile.He could have hurt himself badly.If he is falling in church it wont be long before he does it again,there or somewhere else.
AH
P.S. dont let kathee be alone with you near any stairs doyle,,you have a history of leg problems and falling now…
I remember doyle’s first message and that turned out to be his very first false promise, didn’t it?. He had no clue how to get us there because you can’t get there through outward conformity, like you said. You and I can be in two totally different “places” in our walks, drive two different kinds of cars, ETC and have true fellowship (non-judgmental fellowship). That’s the One Accord doyle will never understand. But I call it one accord as long as you and I are both following the Lord for today. You may be today where I was yesterday (God forbid, because I really crashed). Or I may be where you were last year, but none of that should hinder one accord at all, in my opinion. There is still satisfying fellowship. The friction starts when I want you to be where I am right now! Or you want me to ‘do something for my own good’ and get frustrated over it. I’m sure none of this is news to you, but it sure is the exact opposite of what we experienced at wol. There was no ROOM given to grow because every heart was on a second by second scrutiny according to our outward actions. (And it was even worse for those in that select group. The fellowship there was just as divisive and perverse WITHIN that group.) It was all Behavior Modification. That inner man was just trampled on. Anyhoo, glad to be outta there and I’m enjoying the fellowship, even though you really do need to……… oops, I think Big Red took over my keyboard.
One of Isabel’s posts rang a bell with me. DD used to go on and on and on and on about the eagle in Daniel Chap 7 and how the eagle’s wings were plucked, saying it was America. I don’t know if it represents America or not but the point is that THERE IS NO EAGLE in the verse he quotes!! This is another example of DD making the Bible say what he wants it to say. The actual verse is:
“he first [was] like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.”
Anybody see an eagle in there?? A lion with eagle’s wings is not an eagle.
Bob
For Vincent: I found the link to the expose’ story on Doyle:
here it is:
http://www.dallasobserver.com/2006-05-18/news/the-devil-and-doyle-davidson/
Kind Regards,
Cheryl
Did I miss something MOLer’s- did Doyle say that Terry Mai screamed before he died???
Yes,we have it confirmed by at least 3 people that he said that on a recent show.
AH
Wow,what a show for a tuesday night.I struggled with several titles”The slow deterioration of a drunkin crazy reprobate” maybe ? 40 minutes of crazy talk,racism and math that well..um..doesnt add up.The things of God ARE clear to the things that are made doyle,thats why you are so clearly wrong.
Alan Havlick
That was pretty hilarious when Doyle said that President Obama thinks like an African. Does Doyle believe that thinking is a function of the DNA? Mr. Obama was never around his kenyan father that much.
That’s another funny thing. Does Doyle think all Africans think alike? The way all of us North Americans think alike? We Mexicans, Canadians and USA citizens?
Doyle thinks like somebody who has been kicked in the head by a mule, is what I think.
I remember him whining about how rebellious Patti was and how she would rather not only read newspapers but WATCH TV than pay attention to him. We went in search of the pearl of great price and ended up spoiled with a whole lot of leaven. I am thankful now that I remember his peevish complaints about Patti’s rebellion. She was far much better off than Terry who put a man(Doyle) between himself(Terry) and God. Doyle’s own words keep coming back to crucify him day and night. I am beginning to see how my little lump went bad…soo bad. Once you put yeast into a loaf of bread, it is hard to take it out. To get rid of the yeast you might have to throw out the whole loaf of bread and start from scratch with fresh flour. It is almost like a domino effect sometimes, I seem to keep tossing out a lot of what that man taught me.
Bob: very interesting. I didn’t know that about terry until your post. Patti, on the other hand, who did not buy into doyle’s BS (he often complained that she would rather read the newspaper…well, who wouldn’t), had the presence of mind and peace in her heart to wave good-bye to kathy and doyle as she passed on over.
The Medic — You wrote:
“I’ve seen people go with broad smiles on their faces and a sense of utter joy as they take their last breath; and I’ve seen THOSE THAT HAVE SCREAMED and tried to get out of their bed at their death. I can’t help but believe their truly is a Heaven and hell, and that somehow on our death beds we know where we are going.”
Reading that reminded me of something Doyle said and confirmed with Kathy Mai during a show a few weeks ago. He said that Terry Mai SCREAMED just before he died, far from smiling from utter joy. From your past observations it sounds like at the last second Terry must have seen himself heading to the firey pit. Let’s just hope other WOL folks wake up and realize where Doyle is taking them before they die screaming like Terry did.
Bob
Hey Jack,
Isn’t it great to be able to celebrate Father’s Day without condemnation? And Mothers Day. And Birthdays, Anniversaries, Reunions, and other holidays? All were forbidden at WOL. I was kicked out of the “band” because I attended my high school reunion and missed a Sunday morning. That incident actually turned out to be a good thing – just one more straw that eventually freed me from the prison that is WOL.
Bob
I hope Doyle the Dork reads this one:
Kenneth and Gloria have His and Hers Jets! Paid for by people who wanted them each to have those airplanes.
Doyle doesn’t have fans like that, and never will. He knows it, and it sticks in his craw.
Don’t it, Doyle. Have a nice day.
I am thankful for what my sister, Lisa H. wrote on this forum. It’s absolutely true! I can attest to it.
Again, (I know I am repeating myself) when I say that I take comfort in knowing that JUSTICE will prevail and Doyle Davidson WILL have to stand before The Almighty, The Creator, on the Day of Judgement and give account for ALL the souls that have sat under his rants(”teachings”)… this we are PROMISED. We will all be judged for our actions, but there will be greater judgement for false teachers; wolves that have led the sheep astray and sown misery and lies into their lives… this is our comfort- let us NEVER forget that!
Blessings and shalom,
Cheryl
“Justice, and only justice, you shall pursue, that you may live and possess the land which the LORD your God is giving you.~ Deuteronomy 16:20
I guess its too late to ask Lisah if I can post her coment at the top of the forum huh? I think it should be on a sign outside every church in america,thankyou for being so strong and honest.This should never happen to anyone and sure not to Parents and children.Were going to change the site name to”Lisah exposedd!” all kidding aside though,Thankyou for bearing your heart to us like that.
Alan Havlick
There was an old preacher from Texas
Who no longer had good reflexes
With spittle spangled lips
And broken down hips
His waff soon forgot what good sex is
“You women need to submit yourselves to your husbands” means submit only as long as your husband is fully submitted to Doyle. Only submit to your husband after submitting to Doyle and if you are getting along with your husband that means you are not submitting to Doyle enough, in fact it means you are a rebellious woman married to a wimp. It means if you ever have to choose between your husband and Doyle you always have to choose Doyle.
“child of the devil” means the man whose wife I am currently sleeping with or the one who won’t let me sleep with his wife anymore.
“Obey God” means that I have no clue what advice to give you, but I’m ready to judge you if you fail.
“You are partakers of the grace of God that’s in my life” means that as long as you are my enablers, I won’t curse you.
“God spent all my money for 7 years” means I couldn’t walk by faith if my life depended on it so I came back to McKinney and took up where I left off 7 years earlier: practicing vet medicine.
“I’m a brother seeker” means I seek out and destroy Jesus’ brothers.
“I hate the flesh” means he hates God’s Creation, while never dealing with the flesh.
There once was a prophet from Plano
Who swigged a whole can of Draino
To clear up his voice
But it was a bad choice
He now spews up drool like a volcano
obviously your appointment was well deserved! BRAVO! Meg
Rose,
According to the police report the only people present at the time of Doyle’s arrest were JR, Lisa, Doyle and 2 Plano police officers.
After determining that Doyle was intoxicated, one of the officers asked him if there was someone he could call to come pick him up. It seems the officer was not going to let Doyle drive or walk home but he was willing to cut him some slack and allow him to leave peacefully without being arrested for public intox if someone could come get him.
Doyle told the officer that there was no one he wished to call so the officer placed him under arrest. After being handcuffed Doyle informed the officer that there was someone he could call but the officer apparently decided it was too late and Doyle (who was being uncooperative anyway) was going to jail.
Once he was booked into jail Doyle contacted Terry Mai who contacted Jack T and they came down and bailed him out.
That is my understanding from the police report and from Doyle’s own original account when he first told it to the church.
Later a meeting was held where JR and Lisa were allowed to tell their side of the story to the apostles. I am not aware of how many of them attended but that was when Terry instructed the others to spin the story to Doyles advantage
Okay,,,,boy I knew I either dreamed it or someone had mentioned it….so this is what I guess I’m talking about…the very last statement you made…the later meeting where JR and Lisa were allowed to tell their side of the story to the apostles, and I guess that’s when Terry instructed the others to spin the story….okay great! thanks Steve! rab
When I joined WOL back in the nineties, one of the first casualties was my family(flesh and blood) and my friends up until then. Family and friends were ‘unbelievers that needed to be overcome’. Education was a close second. Add to that reason or common sense, music-which I loved, communication or talking to anyone that was not a Doylite, and I had very little left in my life. If you are going to clear your life of all these things, you are probably going to fill that gap with something. Doyle ranted against the above almost daily and any chance the ‘apostles’ got they were eager to testify of how they are daily overcoming these things.
ALL I had in my life was people that listened to Doyle, and since I did not live in Plano, I watched and read everything from there. Since you all do not know, you all (’apostles’ and Doylites) were all the family I had. The apostles from my vantage point were the ones that had been approved enough to stand up and tell of what this gospel had accomplished in their lives. They were put up there as examples. And you all think we did not pay attention? I speak for myself obviously but I am pretty sure I was not the only one. I personally know of some like myself.
You may want to recall when you all lined up your websites with testimonies, what was their purpose? For us to look and say, “wow, isn’t that nice?” We considered your lives and went forth to do likewise. You do not put up a testimony about how your daughter overcame the pressure to go to college if you think it will have no effect. You all put up testimonies about your lives and how this gospel was working in your lives. You were those that had gone on before me.
I know I may look like the idiot of the day for taking all this at face value but I did. I am not claiming the moral high ground either, there is none. You guys were the only family I had, I had run off everybody else because I was not going to fellowship with unbelief from my family!. My life was a blur for over ten years during which there were very few people I saw and heard from and virtually fellow shipped with. I did not call you, I did not write to you in all those years I must have written 2 women in Plano once and I also called once for prayer when I was sick. (The prayer did not help) so I quit calling and set my heart to overcome by myself.
If my blood brother ever ran off and left me in the slime pit that you all left me in, I would have major issues of hurt and betrayal. You left me and others like me and it is not any different. You do not open your mouth and instruct anyone or set yourself up as an example or accept exaltation as a model if you do not have the guts to take responsibility. This shall pass, but this is not okay. If it was just me you left there that would have been one too many and it was. But it was not just me.
It is good to seek a quiet life and to want to mend your life in private and you can do that if you messed it up in private like I did. If you took two or three down with you that’s another story. You took on a responsibility that you had no shoulders to bear. You were happy to be seen or heard of men and women and we saw and heard you.
Maybe people deal with things differently but if you screw somebody up, the least you can do is have the decency to look them in the eye or in the inbox and fix what you can.
At one time in my life I was responsible for 1,038 people for one year. Directly responsible as a representative and that is all I will say about that. And I never for one minute thought that what I did or said or how I acted was just my business.
I stumbled about and left WOL by myself. I have not got an e-mail, a phone call or anything from any leader and pst..I am not soliciting anything. The last communication between us I am pretty sure was an offering envelope from my family to WOL.
One more thing, when the churches were established and I began attending one, all excited about some face to face fellowship with human being of like faith and mind, it was a pretty lonely experience. Everybody was so uptight and wondering-I guess-if the other one was overcoming more or less. We could not even hold a normal conversation without ‘praise God amen’. I guess we had all forgotten how to do all that un-spiritual talk. I am not also saying I was perfect, you all know I was not anything remotely close to perfect. I was in a cult!. I said it…Whooo!
And I understand to all forumers this is messy and not fun to deal with but that is one thing we did very well while at WOL. We did not deal with anything we just shut up and prayed. Translation from despotism to liberty? who does that? too much work.
Wow! Nadia…BRAVO! I’m standing and clapping! You couldn’t have said it better.
You know I’ve had this same discussion before and everytime I did, it never went anywhere because just like Jack T. said…they were just like you and me…they were all taken in too? I never thought about that till Jack T. said that….we held those guys up on a pedestal just like we did Doyle….I know some of the Apostles that went there and I always wondered the same thing, why didn’t we hear from them? DUH!!! They are human too!!! I CAN’T BELIEVE IT!! Thanks Jack, but see all of this stuff takes a lot of time to come to realize…..and guess what, Jack helped me realize that just because Doyle told us that those men were Apostles, we held them up and praised them right alongside with Doyle….But what some of us dont’ understand and remember they are just MEN…HUMANS and because of the healing they have to go through just like us, well different healing times for each and every one of us will occur. I wouldn’t be surprised to see more of the human ex-nominated apostles come forward after they too have had time to heal.
Jack has been gone for a while and it just takes time to sort things out. I have seen Jack T. come around in his own time just like many of us….I can remember asking him to write stuff for our forum and he was just not ready….well CONGRATULATIONS JACK!! Thanks so much for allowing us to hear from you!!
What is great about this forum is that it’s cheap counseling…heh heh! Talk about venting and letting all that anger out, then talking, then more talking and whamo! It starts getting easier and easier….of course I’m only talking about my own experiences, so please forgive me…I don’t want to say that for everyone….but it’s true for me, I was so angry and frustrated that I allowed another human to take advantage of me and our family, but Thank GOD for his grace and mercy to have waited for me to come to my senses! Thanks Jesus! Your such an awesome GUY!!
Now hopefully at some point we will hear someday from Jack Small and hear that story that went on behind the scenes…Doyle is such a scumbag, I’m sorry that’s a nice name cause when you work for the devil, you are nothing!!!….he makes me sad for him, but someday, somehow GOD will take him out of all of our lives and hopefully that dungeon they call church will go away! God Bless everyone! rab
Ex-wol’s:
I understand that the burden has fallen on me since I’m the only one actively posting right now, but I have not been defending myself. Taking the title is indefensible. Enough said. I suppose that one of the main frustrations that I had with doyle during the hay-days is that he never seemed to grasp how people hung onto his every word and radically changed their lives for him. He always thought that people weren’t paying attention. What I am hearing (excuse the cliché) from you is that the twelve, or whatever, likewise, need to acknowledge that everyone was hanging onto our words as well. And, with that, came responsibility. If that’s what your saying, I get it. If I was smart, I would just leave it there. But I’m not too smart, so I’ll go on. What I was defending was that we were just as much caught up in the web as anyone. Though my teachings would be VERY different today, the “gospel” that I preached WAS working for me within the cage that I was in. So, unlike the satellite guys that prayed for lisa to come home, my conscience is clear as far as that goes. I don’t know what else to say. If you post to me, of course, I’ll respond. If its a general rant, you won’t hear a peep from me. Wollers at Plano know why people/so-called leaders leave. I’m going to be posting on why I stayed. Perhaps you will see the bondage that even the leaders were in, though that is not my motive in posting it. God bless.
Today was supposed to be “The Day”, when the John…the “Son” of the Grand Poobah of Plano was to be born in Israel, thus pronouncing that judgement has come upon America.
Another deluded fallacy/false prophecy has “come to pass.”
It will be interesting to see if the Doyle the deluded one, even mentions it….or who he blames for his lies.
America is so free that we can actually choose to walk into bondage.
We made doyle our priest. We lost many of our natural liberties. We participated in the lowest grade of ignorance. Religious leaders will always avail themselves of that ignorance.
It’s all about keeping our personal Borders un-defiled. (Sorry for the psych 101). Godspeed.
Jack, I couldn’t agree with you more.~lisah
Nadia:
What can I say? We were false apostles. I never embraced the term “apostle” (much to the puzzlement and concern of my family), but I allowed myself the designation, so it was still sin. Doyle, being a weak leader, surrounded himself with men that could be manipulated. We may have been the biggest gorillas in the cage, but we were STILL in the cage. Pretty pitiful, huh? I believed every word that I taught at the time. I can only speak for myself here, but after being deceived for over 2 decades, I think it would be pretentious to leave and immediately start spreading the “real truth”. “I really, really had the truth before (with doyle), but now I see that’s wrong and I really, really, really (no, really) have it now. Really. I’ve got it right this time!”. I hope you see what I mean. I think I am borderline pretentious having waited 20 months to start writing. In other words, I’m just as raw and sore and angry as you are. And maybe they are, too.
HEY JACK! I surely can talk from experience. You are sooooo right!! It took many, many years for Alan and I to come out. I was a “Rockstarinplano” if any of you remember and had that other website named “Perils of Plano”….anybody remember that?
Well, after I started helping Alan Havlick with this site and we began really pressing in to expose Doyle did I start deciding that enough was enough, I was coming out! IT was SCARY, but it was rewarding!! It was like I had escaped from a cave, but most of all it allowed Alan and I to see just how suppressed we were and that’s when God started revealing to us the need for us to denounce Doyle Davidson and repent! That’s literally when God performed incredible things in our life to show us and only to show us that this was exactly what we needed to do!
I hope and pray that all of you who have been there can do this at some point in your life. FORGIVENESS was very hard for me at first until I realized I had to forgive Doyle and move onto the repenting..I cannot believe how far God has brought us in this journey, but it’s been rough and yet it has been the most rewarding time of my life!
God Bless you Jack T. for allowing us to hear what you have said today. I truly believe that at some point others will come forward, but it has to be on their own time. You have been in the back ground reading this forum for a long, long time, so it had to be something that you had to work through to start posting and commenting….Just like a lot of us…venting and crying about all the anger we all had was just the first steps to get where we are today!
Congratulations! for not waiting 8 LONG, LONG YEARS like my Alan and I did….but then I have always been a slow learner…heh heh!!
We love you Jack and your family….you are my brother! rab
i would like to extend my offer to anyone on here that would like a cd, i am going to pick all of the christian oriented tunes i have and put them on one cd, all i ask is that, if it is possible find a friend that can burn a copy of what i send and send me one back so i can send it to someone else,, just a loose idea i had, i am already sending one to norma jane who asked,, email me and send a po box or address,, cementman512004@yahoo.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUpFfuml7LA&feature=channel
thank YOU James…. I’d like to have one… I’ll email you an address…. CP
I would be happy to copy some cd’s for you James and pass them around here…thanks, rab
There is NO SHAME in making a bad decision, especially one that you were manipulated into making. It’s when we stick with that bad decision, even when we know deep down inside that it was wrong, that we truly lose our way.
What I don’t get is why Doyle even opened his yap about his activist Baptist ancestors. He could have just as easily kept private this “revelation” from Kathy, Prophetess to the Nations.
I suppose Doyle brought it up because it makes him angry, and anger is all he has left.
There is an old preacher named Doyle
His flock is so meek and so loyal
When he tells them to dance
They all start to prance
Seeking heavenly rewards for their toil.
They skip to the tunes of the Mai’s
Then sit down to hear Doyle’s lies
Straight ahead they do stare
Not seeming to care
That not a thing Doyle says is wise
He tells them that mothers are bad
That Catholics and Baptists are sad
That doctors are witches
And women are bitches
And that soon he will sire a lad
But soon there may come a day
When even a blue chair will say
This ain’t Christian teachin’
This ain’t even preachin’
I think I’ll just bunny hop away
I felt that WOL was getting stranger and stranger, even though I particpated of my own free will, in the “weirdness”. Looking back, hindsight is 20/20. Nevertheless, here’s a condensed version:
I left when I became aware of LisaS/Doyle affair, and saw the proof with my own eyes, it wasn’t logic or reason. I was enraged, because of Doyle’s lack of integrity- his cheating on HIS WIFE, Patti, while HE TOLD ME TO STAY IN AN ABUSIVE MARRIAGE!!!???
Poof, I was gone- Done.
Cheryl
I don’t know if anyone ever posted what Paul said a pastor should be like, but I thought I would put it up here for a reminder.
From the book of Titus
Tts 1:6 An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.
Tts 1:7 Since an overseer [fn] is entrusted with God’s work, he must be blameless-not overbearing, not quick-tempered, not given to drunkenness, not violent, not pursuing dishonest gain.
Tts 1:8 Rather he must be hospitable, one who loves what is good, who is self-controlled, upright, holy and disciplined.
Tts 1:9 He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.
Tts 1:10 For there are many rebellious people, mere talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision group.
Tts 1:11 They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach-and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
Tts 1:12 Even one of their own prophets has said, “Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons.”
Tts 1:13 This testimony is true. Therefore, rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith
Tts 1:14 and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the commands of those who reject the truth.
Tts 1:15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.
Tts 1:16 They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.
Tts 3:9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.
Tts 3:10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that, have nothing to do with him.
Tts 3:11 You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.
I think Doyle gets a big fat zero when I go thru this list.
Our families are healing, by the Grace of God. It has been a long process, but God is faithful. I have no regrets, we have no one else to blame but ourselves for following Doyle, instead of God. There was something in all of our hearts that drew us to Doyle. Thank God, he is removing that and it’s almost over! Our children were greatly affected, but God is working in their lives as well.
If this taught me anything, it’s that if you have a red flag, a gut feeling in your spirit, LISTEN to it.
I had red flags the first time I met Doyle and should have turned the other way and ran!
But, many thousands of dollars and hours and years later…..I am thanking God for healing our family. We are now enjoying the years we missed. I pray for Doyle and those left at WOL. May God have mercy on their souls….
Jack-Thanks for sharing your dinner story-it brought to mind ours! On one of her last trips to South Bend, KFC went out to eat w/Justin-his waf, 2 other current SBend WOL couples and us..KFC sat near the other two couples during dinner. That evening a call came in and yelling that KFC was ignored! Justin/Mike were busy talking to their wives! Excuse me! SO WHAT????
All she did was come here and tell stories about loosing her luggage in the airport and say she did not always share that w/Doyle cause he would be upset! Then mindless talks at the pulpit about nothing! Sorry, KFC if you feel ignored, find yourself a husband!
Hey guys. So much to write and so little inclination to write it. But I will share a story that confirms the topic of late. Namely, that doyle has had these issues pre-wol. Those that think that his 1987 decision to be with Lisa was a bad decision by an up-to-then “together” man, have no understanding that that was not the cause of things going bad, only another symptom of his dysfunctional soul which would have destructed eventually. He did not betray us. He wasn’t even thinking of us. And all that each of us gave or sacrificed? Just fodder to him, with or without the affair. It was my fault for entering his world. He did deceive us by acting “together”, but thats a different story. Anyway, I digressed. It was 1979. Had moved to McKinney. Wanted to host a dinner for doyle, patti, kathy, terry, and another couple, bruce geer (who was still single, as I believe kathy and terry still were), my sister (who I was trying to get involved in this great, new thing), myself and my spouse. (At the time, bruce lived 2 houses down from ours.) That’s ten people. Our dining table only held six comfortably. So, four would have to eat at a card table set up in the SAME room. Being the consummate host, it was a no-brainer for me and my spouse to take the card table in the SAME room. But who to join us? I agonized over this for days. (My older and more relaxed self would tell everyone nowadays to just find a seat.) But in doyle’s world everything is controlled and ordered. I had already entered that world. Anyway, couldn’t be doyle and patti, they were the unspoken guests of honor. Thought about terry and kathy, who we were friends with! But, oh no, when the four are together, they are one unit. (The “touch not” was already working on me and this before anyone had a title and I didn’t even realize it was influencing me.) This is 1979. The other couple “made the cut”, but I don’t remember why because I don’t remember who it was. (either littrells or w. edges). I was trying to make it as nice as possible for my guests. That left my sister (who I knew wouldn’t care) and bruce who was like 23 years old and I knew wouldn’t care. He just wanted enough food there to leave full. He had to walk home, after-all. Anyway, we had a nice evening, but the next time we all met as a group, doyle unloaded on me in front of everyone. (This was to prove to be a common M.O., where he wouldn’t say anything to the unsuspecting party and then publicly unload on them at the next “church service”. He said we three turquettes were trying to “kidnap” bruce away from him. Because I sat him with “us three” at a separate table. Did I mention that it was in the SAME room? I don’t think I did. Anyhoo, he took something totally innocent and made something dirty out of it. But my main point is that all the neuroses were already there: control, anger, paranoia, insecurity, suspicion, projected deceit. I’m sure the reader can find more. Why did I put up with it? Low self-esteem, thought it was an isolated incident, didn’t want my insignificant “point of view” to interfere with a great move of God, to name a few. Anyhoo…..one story that I thought I was going to take to the grave. Oh, how times have changed. Godspeed
Thanks for the memory, Jack. It helps others not so familiar with WOL understand that DD didn’t just “slip” one day and become this kook.
He’s always been a kook. And we here ALL know it!
Boy Jack, that sounds so Doyle….you knew him for the longest time….rab
Excellent summation by RevDRdm.
Doyle certainly has a narrowly-defined target market: they have to be sane enough to hold a job and produce income, yet screwed up enough to believe his crap and take his abuse. It’s a delicate balance…
Sunday morning 2 – Kathie Small sermonizes again. Says this week her mother called while she and Doyle were praying in the office to tell her that a “family member” had been indicted by a grand jury. Kathie used the term “family member” several times and then slipped towards the end and said “my brother.” So much for keeping that secret. Anyway, she went back to praying after the call and it turned out that the judge was the same judge who had presided over a past trial for this brother and dismissed the charges because she (the judge) thought they were previously tried. Kathie better be careful, she’s making judges sound intelligent to the WOL’ers and we all know that according to Doyle judges are fools.
A PSYCHOLOGICAL AUTOPSY OF DOYLE DAVIDSON: As we heard Friday night, Doyle is a misogynist who holds women in contempt. He chose/chooses as partners women who were/are submissive and whom he disdains for being below his intellectual level. Lisa was a special case and I’ll discuss that relationship in a bit. It is important to understand that Doyle WAS CREATED AND FORMED by his Mother who molded him into what he is: a dysfunctional, maladaptive and emotionally dead man. Doyle’s Mother behaved toward him in such a way (”She threw me on the bed…to die”) that Doyle was not special to her. Doyle’s WHOLE LIFE is a pathetic attempt to prove her wrong. Doyle CONSTANTLY seeks from the WOLLERS AND ALL WOMEN confirmation that he is SPECIAL, a feeling he did not get from his Mother. (Gawd thinks he’s special and created him as an Apostle from the foundation of the World, or so Doyle SAYS.) Doyle believes most women are ‘whores’ who are out to hurt him, even kill him. He objectifies them with menacing qualities (”wicked Jezebels” – a term that covers a multitude of ’sins’). He refers to his own Mother as a “demon-possessed Jezebel” . Doyle views women as parasites, leeches who suck dry every man they find and, like a spider, decapitate them when they’re no longer useful. Of course this is precisely what Doyle the narcissist does to everyone, male AND female. His view of women is simply a projection of his own mindset onto the women. KNOW THIS: Humbling a woman is Doyle’s way of getting back at his Mother (who threw him on the bed to DIE.) Understanding this point is CRUCIAL to understanding Doyle’s mind. Doyle deep down believes that ALL WOMEN ARE A CONTINUATION OF HIS MOTHER, just in different personas and guises. Doyle hate women virulently, passionately and uncompromisingly. His hatred is primal, irrational and born of the sustained abuse he suffered an a young boy from his Mother. To be associated with Doyle, as a Woller OR as his latest WAF Or in ANY capacity, is an arduous and eroding task. He is infinitely pessimistic, bad-tempered, paranoid and sadistic. His daily routine is one of threats, complaints, hurts and slights that he carefully files away in his memory to call up at times when he is particularly self-pitying, and eruptions of moodiness and rage. KNOW THIS ALSO: Doyle humiliates people, especially women, because IT IS HIS ONLY WEAPON AGAINST THE HUMILIATION HE FEELS FROM THEIR INDIFFERENCE. (He’s CHOSEN OF GAWD!! When, Oh When, will you people recognize that?) This explains his fixation on Lisa. She left him, and that was/is a hurt he can ONLY deal with by calling down punishment on her and JR. She was ‘under his spell’ and was manipulated for a time, but ULTIMATELY he could not control her. Their ‘relationship’ was a power struggle and Doyle lost that struggle when she left. He has taken up with Kathleen Small because she is a dependent/avoidant personality who is inherently incapable of changing anything in her life. She is reactive, without initiatve, and Doyle actively seeks such a personality to manipulate because of his own deep-seated needs. “Couples” like Doyle and Mrs. Small have no COMMON agenda; only their psychopathologies are compatible. The sadist is now in relationship with the masochist; their neuroses mesh. Psychodynamically, Doyle visits upon the women in his life the ’sins’ of his Mother. His ability to manipulate his ‘partner’ “proves” him to be the superior person he believes he is. It is BLATANTLY OBVIOUS, even to Doyle although he would deny it, that his ‘ministry’ is crashing. Doyle is angry because he is not as powerful, as awe-inspiring, as successful as he wishes he were and, in his mind, deserves to be. His daydreams (prophecies) stubbornly refuse to come true. The Women Doyle reviles are standing in for his Mother. Lisa, by leaving him, passed JUDGEMENT on him as a person JUST AS HIS MOTHER DID. He HATES her for it. Her returning to him,’coming home’ if you will, would confirm his superiority. And he WOULD let her come but would NEVER let her forget how magnanimous he was by accepting her back. To Lisa’s credit, she got out and STAYED OUT. Now Mrs. Small is “Kathie D.” and Doyle is SO SURE and confident of her dependency on him that he reaches out to Lisa EVERY NIGHT, ‘praying’ for her to recognize Doyle’s inherent correctness and ‘come home.’ Mrs. Small is SO cowed by Doyle and her own mental issues that she is incapable of objecting to this, as ANY psychologically healthy woman WOULD. That she gave up her husband and disrupted her children’s lives to be with Doyle says it all about her personality. Doyle is not hard to understand. He is predictable and constant. Everything he says and everything he does has ONE GOAL: to gain the adulation he NEEDS. If you worship him, it is only right. If you disdain him, leave him or ridicule him, Gawd will surely kill you. Doyle canot love anyone. He is incapable of loving. His hatred of women is a manifestaton of the hatred he feels for everyone and everything, especialy his Mother.
From:Wendy Duncan, http://www.dallascult.com
If I am not mistaken, Mr Davidson said the following at about 4:15 on Tuesday:
“Whatever you believe, join us and we’ll all go to hell together.”
Did I hear right?
Yes you did hear that right..I know Steve L. heard that too…along with many others…that is so scary…but that’s what’s in his heart..rab
Just a thought, but wouldn’t the IRS enjoy knowing about the private jet(s) without a paper trail? It’s plainly stated by DingDong on video unless he removes the video.
In person, is Ms. Small better looking than it appears on the videos? She seems rather bland and frumpy to me, in comparison to Kathy Mai who looks beautiful every night. Just wondering….
Well, if you remember Doyle’s bank kicked him and Terry out of their bank. Banks do not kick people out for no reason! There has been some money fanagling for a long long time,,,,,why do you think he had our company cut him a check personally and separately from the amount the company gave the church? He is such a crook and so wicked! I wish the feds would hurry up and shut him down! rab
Interesting comment about the money laundering thing. We have some fairly good indication of the “free house” program in Fairview. Doyle gives the house away, gets a deduction, the people who received the house gives the $200K plus to WoL and they get a deduction. Pretty smooth but sounds illegal…if it happened and I happen to believe it probably did. What else could be involved?
I loved that bragging by Doyle last night that there is “no paper trail” regarding where the money for the private jet came from. That reflects the mindset of a swindler and a crook, not the mindset of a true man of God.
SIGNS OF DD Being Sloshed:
1. incoherent speech
2. stmbling and swaying
3. holding on to chairs
4. racing thoughts- talking with no point
5. jumping from one topic to another
6. seriously denying a certain “sin” (tonight was porn) that is a dead give away it’s what he’s obssessed with.
7. getting “chummy” with people, hugging certain people and “Sloppy agape”, all the while, screaming at the Wol-Nuts.
quote of the day FOR (not by) Doyle:
“You know you’ve created God in your own image when He hates all the same people you do”.
We call ourselves MOLars, cause we have all our teefs.
My income has just about doubled since I left WOL. Better benefits and perks too. Thank you, Jesus. also, more peace, joy, patience, longsuffering, self control, and LESS SIN and deception.
At 11:10…Doyle says”you don’t know Jesus. You don’t know anything about Him…”
The Jesus I know, said “…whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.” (Luke 16:18)
* Doyle sure is getting a lot of mileage out of the baby-butchering story. How sick do you have to be to manipulate that tragedy into a long-winded brag about yourself?
* Doyle’s running down Mr. Small again. Doyle already took his goofy wife away from him, isn’t that enough?
* Now Doyle’s talking up Mrs. Small. She’s respectable, she’s forceful, she’s funny, etc.
In reality, she doesn’t appear to be very bright, which I’m sure is another good thing about her, as far as Doyle is concerned.
* Doyle signs off by saying he’d better stop talking before he gets mad! No, PLEASE DO get mad, Doyle – and have a snort while you’re at it! It’s much more fun for your viewers when you do.
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* He essentially skipped the opening prayer and went into an angry convoluted rant about other religions and foreigners.
* Now he’s screaming something about Italians.
* Doyle yells that he’s afraid he’ll say something he’ll regret. Way too late for that, isn’t it, Doyle?
* Yay! Solo “Flying Monkey Dance” by Doyle. Alcohol is a hell of a drug.
* I should watch the music all the way through sometimes, just for chance to see Mrs. Small hork up another demon. It’s hard to take for that long, though.
Horse-related Thought: A steaming heap of road apples has a more positive personality than Doyle does. It’s actually more useful, too.
That being said, wouldn’t it be fun to see a big pile of fresh hot road apples in the center of the red carpet? Not that I would ever encourage anyone to do such a thing…
Hey guys,
doyle once again proves that he loves the Moses-model. Trouble is, God found fault with the Old and replaced it with the New, where every born-again believer has access to fellowship/relationship with God. Of course, feudal overlords don’t like that at all. Moses obeyed God, but when God abandons something, what spirit is it that comes in to inhabit it and set itself up as the God?? Hmmmm. Gonna have to think about that one. Godspeed.
Mr davidson mused out loud last year about who his third wife would be. He mentioned a list of names, including Mrs Small and Mrs Brown, and said (if i remember correctly) that God would reveal it to him.
If my memory about this is correct, it is further evidence that December 17 was a very premeditated and planned event.
I am again reminded of 2 Timothy 3:6, where Paul writes about men who “creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts…”
The exhortation Paul gave almost 2,000 years ago still rings true today: “Stay away from such people”! (verse 5)
No, Mr Davidson, I don’t condemn you. like I have pointed out many times, your own mouth condemns you. time and time again.
You speak nonsense and attribute it to God. You hold grudges and are bitter. You seek to justify yourself by imagining that God permits you to sin. You place burdens on others that you are not willing to bear. Your own words and your own deeds condemn you.
You can try to “condemn” your enemies as a pre-emptive strike, but when the light starts to shine, that will prove an ineffective defense.
Not only did Mrs. Small wait a month after the initial boinking to tell her husband, she also told him that she was going to wait until school was out, then divorce him, then she would marry Doyle. Then of course she moved out in less than a week.
And I wonder how it felt to Kathy Mai that Doyle wouldn’t go to the hospital “because he couldn’t do Terry any good,” when the real reason was that Mrs. Small had moved in.
Double, double, toil and trouble. Witchcraft at work.
I,m really worried about this poppie dream…I mean after all,Mcain is President,Lisa is back with doyle,JR is dead,John was born in Isreal because Lisa went there with him just like he said she would !!!
It seems clear to me we are dealing with a great Profit er I mean Prophet,Why wouldnt I be worried!
Is this a threat from doyle??Is he gonna get out his wicked witch of the west crystal ball and make his enemies”fall asleep”?
And didnt Daniel look up the writing on the wall with “google” before he gave the King Gods message??
Alan Havlick
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White poppies and opium. I’m pretty sure the Masons and the Plano cops are behind this. And maybe the Southern Baptists….
Oh my. Just tuned in to Sun #3. Didn’t look at one and two. I think he’s DRUNK. Jesus created everything – I THINK that’s what he said. He’s having a heck of a time get the words out – it’s like his lips are all floppity. His lickin’, droolin’, pokin’, stammerin – whooee. Should be a good lecture….
WAKE UP WOL
Now it’s really time to wake up.
Mr Davidson’s testimony/admission of adultery should be enough for any upright person to see him for what he is. His sin has nothing to do with God and everything to do with lust. The man is bound in sin and unwilling to do anything about it. He seeks to justify himself with his “special” (read imaginary) relationship with “God”, a god who tells him what he wants to hear and lets him do whatever he wants. That’s not the way it works. Taking another man’s wife is, and always will be, adultery. You can try as you will to change this, but you can’t.
For those at WOL struggling with this, it’s time to stand up and take responsibility for your own life and your own faith. The man you see in front of you is not a man of God. He is a self-centred sinner, who has come so far into darkness that his whole being radiates confusion and contradiction.
2 Timothy 3 speaks about such men. We are exhorted to avoid them. Among other things, they “enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses…” Paul explains how such people will make no further progress, for their folly will be obvious to all.
We’ve reached that point with Mr Davidson. In the last weeks, if it hasn’t been so before, his folly is obvious to everyone. Now it’s a question of believing and obeying God’s word, namely: “Avoid such men…”
Now that his folly is obvious to all, I believe it will only be a matter of time that more and more of Mr Davidson’s hidden sins will be brought to light. That will be a painful process for those who have trusted in him. These manifestations will come with a lot of justification and explaining away, but there are some things that will never be explained away and, if I am right, these will soon come out. I think it will shock even the most sceptical of us what has really been going on in Davidson’s life.
Bob,:It all adds up to the same thing. Doyle and Kathi Small committed adultery. Kathi, how do you rationalize this sinful act to your children? How do you look them in the eye with any integrity? Doyle, how do you look at those three granddaughters and their mother and feel good about what you have done and are doing? The both of you are morally and spiritually corrupt. Wollers, how do you feel seeing this in print? Are you outraged? Why can’t you see thru this like John Ferguson has? Are you people as sick as Doyle and Kathi? At least think about your young people and get out of that awful place.
So according to Doyle’s testimony on his website it looks like the old dude “nailed her” (oops, sorry, they became man and wife) on December 16, 2008. Mark that down on your calendars if you want to send anniversary cards. Now correct me if I’m wrong but hasn’t Doyle been using Jack Small’s wickedness as a justification for rescuing Kathie from Jack? It doesn’t appear from Doyle’s testimony that that had even come up when they had their December tryst, er, marriage.
Oh Good grief, Irene.
I just read Drool’s “spin” on his Gawd mandated adultery.
I’m calling Sean Connery.
Friday is also telling of the crazy imaginary conversations Davidson has with God. Looks like he yells at God a bit…
And, guess what? God tells him what he wants to hear!
Hey, Doyle…you’re an angry abusive drunkard. Did you know that?
So, Doyle wakes up in the middle of the night crying over Terry Mai and I remember shortly after his death Doyle yelled at the blue chairs and said NO crying over Terry! What a con……………..it’a always ok for him to do what he tells others NOT to do.
Thursday night. It appears that Doyle might be feeling pangs of guilt over Terry Mai’s death. Says that after going home and watching his webcast he went to bed but woke up between 3 and 4 a.m. sobbing for Terry. He then tried to justify Terry not getting chemo treatments by saying that with chemo Terry’s soul would have lost the will to fight and he would have lost his hair. I wonder if the real reason was the huge amount of money chemo treatments would have cost because Terry didn’t have medical insurance? Didn’t some of you folks say that Doyle frowned on WOL’ers having medical insurance?
Whatever the reason, Doyle once again brought Terry Mai into the service. Seems he will just not let the Mai girls’ hearts heal from Terry’s death.
Verse 1: Finally, brothers, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. Now we ask you and urge you in the Lord Jesus to do this more and more. For you know what instructions we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus.
It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God; and that in this matter no one should wrong his brother or take advantage of him. The Lord will punish men for all such sins, as we have already told you and warned you. For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit.
* Doyle’s opening “prayer” has wording a bit different than usual. Intentional or confusion? Possible drunkeness, on a scale of 1 to 10: 7
* Doyle rants about “witchcraft” and “sorcerers”. Can goblins be far behind?
* Doyle yells “Fornication!” repeatedly. Seems to enjoy it.
* Doyle whines about people who make fun of him. I sure hope he means us!
* Doyle tells his congregation several times how uncool they are. Also calls them liars, wicked unbelievers, etc…the usual.
* Doyle rails against “the British”, temporarily forgetting that he’s part Scottish. Claims the British “worship the Queen”.
* Doyle puts Kathie on the spot, asking her to open a Bible she has on her lap to a certain verse. He takes the Bible away from her, says it’s his Bible and tries for over a minute to find the verse. Then he says it doesn’t look like his Bible. He gives the Bible back to her and she finally reads the verse aloud.
* Doyle’s passing the Bible around now, making people read from it. Some jazz about plants.
* Doyle assures us that medicine is not the answer to sickness. Tell that to Terry Mai, Doyle.
* Doyle reminds us that he was once socially accepted.
* Doyle is flat-out drunk, yelling at everyone, rambling from subject to subject with little coherence of thought.
* “Am I really weird tonight? Yes! Damn weird!”
* Doyle assures us that he’s never been involved in pornography, unlike a “weirdo” he once knew. Doyle talks at some length about the weirdo who was into porn.
* Man, Doyle really seems like he’s melting down tonight.
* “I don’t even know how to Google, but sometimes I type things in and they POP UP!”
* Doyle assures us yet again that he doesn’t like porn. Really. Honest.
Al
Slightly tipsy? I think he is PUI – Preaching Under the Influence. Notice the stumble at 7:10.
This guy is a disgrace!
Seems to me that the WOL boys’ Bunny Hop is designed to psychologically emasculate them. Doyle needs to think that he has the biggest, baddest nads in the room, so he makes the virile young guys twink around in a circle, all gay-like.
I got to thinking about Doyle’s telling Terry Mai that he would have to oversome his wicked Jezebel mother before he could overcome his wife. This got me thinking about the some of the women at WoL and whether or not the men have overcome their wives. My analysis.
Scott Parker over Claudia – no, not from what I have read.
Mike Peters – yeah, it would appear she is very subservient.
Bruce Geer – for sure. Debbie is scared to death of both Bruce and Doyle.
Bob Carpenter – yep, Lark falls right in line.
Basil Clark – I don’t see Basil ruling with an iron hand so this mucks up Doyle’s theory. Kay seems like a very good wife.
Donnie Cauthorn – naw, Jacylyn has a mind of her own but it appears they are a good fit.
Now this shouldn’t surprise anyone.
Steve Brown – A big fat NO. No way will Steve overcome Terre. Doyle, what do you have to say to that? Your Jezebel doctrine isn’t working with one of your biggest supporters. How can you let this happen?
Doyle, what about the scriptures about husband’s loving their wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself for it? Your idea of submit is to CONTROL, MANIPULATE, POUND, DEMAND, THREATEN your women into submission.
Watched Sunday AM Circus #1.
He said he was their example if they would only walk with him. Let me get this straight. We know he has committed adultery with two women and possibly more. We know he was arrested for attacking Lisa. We know he was threatened arrest by the Richardson police if he came back after finding Lisa and JR. We have all seen him drunk on TV. We have heard him curse in front of small children. We have seen him confrontational with visitors in his church. Wow, what an example….a poor one at that.
BREAKING NEWS FOLKS. He is rejoicing today with all this persecution. Sounds like the same old song and dance to me Doyle.
Re: the recent posts on Doyle’s misogyny. I stated sometime back that I believe Doyle to be a latent homosexual. In people of that persuasion you fairly often see hypersexual, heterosexual posturing which might be characterized as ‘excessive’. I spoke once with a Psychologist for some military Special Forces units and he told me that there is an unusually high number of homosexuals drawn to that line of work in an effort to work out their internal conflicts related to their failure to come to terms with their own sexuality. I think the same could be true with Doyle. Overtly heterosexual, their behavior masks a deep seated attraction to the same sex. It’s interesting to see Doyle interact with the Wollers. During the ‘dancing’, Doyle watches the women as they twirl around him, but when the WOL Boys lip-sync, he stops and STARES. You can often see him standing directly in fron of them as they line up. If I were the parent of any of those boys, they certainly wouldn’t be flying ANYWHERE with that old man or staying anywhere in proximity to him. What the interaction between he and John Small is and what Doyle’s feelings are toward the boy are is open to speculation but I think it’s highly inappropriate for Mrs. Small to put her son in that situation. The fact that Doyle WAS married and fathered a daughter doesn’t mean anything. There are plenty of closeted homosexuals who were (and are) in straight relaionships and fathered children, just as many lesbians were in heterosexual relationships and had children. His often expressed hatred of homosexuality and homosexuals is a tip-off as it goes far beyond just a feeling of “it’s not my thing”. Likewise, his open animosity, frequently expressed, toward women is a tip-off of VERY AMBIVALENT feelings toward the opposite sex. Doyle has so many deep-seated mental issues, it’s difficult to know where to begin and at his age, he’s likely beyond help even if he were to seek it. To say he is psychosexually confused is to put it mildly. As MrsRevDr put it, “He’s nuts.”
Oh, almost forgot, during his rant Doyle explained how the Jezabel is out to kill prophets and apostles. Not to worry, Doyle, you’re safe on both counts.
Doyle has denigrated his one and only legal wife, Patti, more times than I can remember. It’s obvious that Doyle has zero respect for women in general. I really don’t see how Kathy Mai and her girls sit there and listen to this garbage.
Neither can I understand how these WoL husbands sit there and have their children listen to this stuff. Bruce Geer has no kahoonas as he has seen Debbie verbally attacked by Doyle on TV several times.
I remember the night he got into a verbal altercation with a lady visitor on the second row. How about the night he had another fight with a visiting lady who was just sitting there with a friend who invited her. Doyle followed her out the door calling her a witch along the way. I didn’t see it but people talk about Doyle throwing Terre Brown’s mom out. Wow, what a Godly man Doyle is. Are you listening WoL women and men? Can you hear what Doyle is saying? Can you read 5th grade? Did you leave your brains at the door of WoL?
I do hope you Wollers show respect to your mothers today with a phone call or something. HAPPY MOTHERS DAY TO ALL!
Does anyone else remember in the past Doyle talked terrible about Patti’s mother also! I remember him talking about getting into a fight with her while she was in his driveway and told her to leave.
Does he like anyone, except himself????
HAPPY MOTHERS DAY DOYLE.
nope, he only talks about how wonderful HE is. drool says hateful evil things about EVERYONE including his own family and his “wives”, and even Jesus! like i said before he is a narcissistic religious weirdo. ~lisah
I watched Doyle last night, Thursday, when he went off on Terry Mai’s mother. Basically, he said Terry’s mother (said this to Terry) was a Jezebel and that Terry would have to overcome his mother before he could overcome his wife, Kathy. He proceeded to say the same thing about any man. To me, he made Terry’s mom out to be an awful person. Hope this gets back to the Mai clan in Russell, KS. Maybe they will have an old fashion butt kicking in Broken Arrow after the Mai reunion.
Last night listening to Doyle reiterate that every man has to overcome his mother before he can overcome his wife, I thought of a Mother’s Day card for WOL men to give to their moms this Sunday.
Dearest Mother,
My preacher told me you’re wicked as hell,
As a matter of fact you’re a Jezabel.
Whatever he tells me I cannot deny,
So don’t you dare say it’s a black-hearted lie.
Because of you I’ve wasted my life,
I’m hardly able to overcome my wife.
So mom, wherever this card may find you,
I want you to know that I bind you, I bind you, I bind you.
I noticed that the ‘mission’ to Tulsa, South Bend, and Anaheim has quietly morphed into something other than what he said on the weekend. He’ll try to get the Wollers to forget that he made the statement about raising the dead. Of course, Forum won’t let them forget what he said. Doyle considers it Satanic “Pressure” when anyone calls him to account for the garbage he spews out. If a person says they’re going to do something, then a person WITH HONESTY AND INTEGRITY will DO IT. If you don’t do what you say you’re going to do, then you’re just another loud-mouthed blowhard, which is what Doyle really is. Doyle will possibly bring Terry Brown along on the trip because he can certainly cast another demon out of her; there seem to be enough of them. She hawks up demons with clockwork regularity and could theoretically impress the locals in Broken Arrow as they haven’t seen a sideshow like this since traveling carnivals went out of business. On the upside, if Doyle cast a demon out of Terry Brown while in Broken Arrow, it’s possible the demon could get lost and not be able to find its way back home to Plano.
Has anyone else made note of Doyle’s initials?
DED.
Prophetic.
Kenneth Hagin, Kenneth Copeland and Dereck Prince all made it to the big time.
Doyle Eugene Davidson didn’t.
But we can always pretend, let’s start with a chartered flight to Tulsa from Plano…
In what has turned out to be a can’t-fail method, Gawd uses Doyle as a conduit to inform us of his plans. We know this works because President McCain is getting the country under control, Lisa is home at the Davidson residence rocking Baby John to sleep, Governors and Presidents in State Houses ALL OVER THE WORLD regularly tune in to get Doyle’s advice on government affairs, and Terry is alive and well….somewhere. Doyle likes to let on like he’s ‘communicating’ some high concept from Gawd or the Bible. In reality, it’s nonsensical semantic gibberish designed to do nothing but confuse the remaining Wollers and reinforce his own primacy as THE ONLY spokesperson for Gawd. In a nutshell, it’s baloney.
So if Doyle is goig to raise the dead, why not start with Terry Mai? I’m not impressed with seeing someone recover from a mild concussion. I want to see someone overcome the effects of embalming fluid. We’re waiting, Doyle.
The posting from Dena’s relative is just another example in a long line of examples in which the REAL FRUIT of Doyle Davidson and WOL is glaringly visible. Davidson is the embodiment of EVIL. You can feel the pain in the heart of Dena’s relative. The residual effect of Doyle’s actions will ripple through the lives of so many people LONG AFTER the old man slips into the oblivion he so richly deserves. If there was ever any question as to why Doyle must be opposed, one only need to read that post. Doyle has been effectively stopped. His ‘Ministry’ is dying a very hard death and he wallows in his own pathology. He is, IMHO, beyond help and I think it’s very possible that those who CHOOSE to stay ‘with him’ are also beyond help, although miracles do happen and we continue to hope that those who remain with him will SOMEDAY see the Light. Hannah Arendt commented on the appearance of the Nazi war criminals while observing the Nuremburg War Crimes Trials agter WW2. The Nazis who perpetrated crimes against humanity appeared at that simply as old, nondescript and ‘harmless’. Arendtcoined the term “The Banality of Evil” to describe them. They did indeed appear banal and ordinary but that surface appearance belied the underlying evil in their hearts. While Doyle’s crimes do not apporach the level of Nazi war crimes, there is evil which underlies the facade of the eccentric old man. Don’t forget that when you watch him. RevDrdm
Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says Yahweh, thoughts of PEACE, and Not of evil, to give you Hope and a Future.
Do you really think doyle davidson is reflecting God’s thoughts to God’s children?
AH
doyle’s soundboard
http://www.realmofdarkness.net/sounds/real/doyledavidson-soundboard.htm
i posted this several months back……it is funny.
Thomas Jefferson said:
“I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal
hostility against every form of tyranny over
the mind of man.”
You Folks have been discussing doyles health and I have been pondering what he said about his health and “ministry”at the meeting with Robert Lynn and his Wife for some time,doyles proof that God was still with him was as follows:
“Look at me do I look cursed to you? Is there anything wrong with me? Has my ministry diminished in any way?”
I could end this post there but…I just have to say it.Cursed?doyle,your best friend is dead.you can only see out of one eye,not MY words His.He has no teeth,not MY words,His.He talked of circulation problems and pain in his legs for much of 2008,His words not mine.His voice has gone from kenneth coplandish to froggy from”Our Gang”with a sore throat.He cant leap onto the stage after an hour of marching anymore.Look at the pics of him on his website then look at him now.
God has removed him from the homes and lives of hundreds of thousands of people by taking him off TV.
He needs to move to Egypt cause he is living in the “State of de-Nile”
AH
PS.I urge those of you who seek to understand doyle davidson to read all 4 chapters of Roberts encounter with him at:
http://robertlynn.wordpress.com/2009/03/26/hello-world/
AH
Doyle NEVER asks for money??? THAT IS A BOLD FACE LIE! HE ASKED ME FOR MONEY !!
Bob,
I went back and looked and listened again, and Mrs. Small said “revelant” four times at the beginning, and you are right, later on she did say relevant once.
But who’s counting.
Ms. Small has made this “revelant” mistake before today. The first time I heard it I passed it off as maybe she just got tongue-tied. But since it now appears that it’s part of her normal vocabulary I guess the unfortunate truth is the woman isn’t the sharpest tack in the box. Maybe the real Divine intervention in her life was getting her out of the teaching profession and the sign business.
When Mrs. Small says Jeremiah is “revelant” today, does she mean “relevant?”
NJ:
I think this sums up why the Texas Educational System is failing… When you have someone that cannot pronounce ENGLISH WORDS (when your primary language IS English)…. how can we possibly expect these UNEDUCATED people to teach our children on a third grade level, when the TEACHER cannot even spell nor pronounce words correctly? Seriously: is she dyslexic???? ~ cp
Further,to my last two posts, Mr Davidson on Sunday (2) said (about Mrs Small), “I want to encourage you to watch what she does…”
I too would encourage everyone at WOL to watch closely. I don’t think things will go well.
“Where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing.” (James 3:16)
I have no doubt that much more hidden sin will become manifest at WOL. There is an unclean spirit at work there, that twists God’s word to justify carnal lusts. It cannot go well with people who do that.
“But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy.” (verse 17)
“Love does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, does not rejoice in nrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth.”
Think about that next time you listen to Mr Davidson.
Just so no one forgets , d’oil proclaimed for several years that lisa, his second wife that god gave him, was going to stand up on stage in front of everyone and tell about how wrong she was. and he continues to pray for all her wicked friends. he could pray for her enemies as well. and now, after having posted a bit about “whoever does not provide for their family is an infidel”, to somehow justify taking a third wife because her husband did wrong, everyone there just accepts that as the will of god. d’ont forget folks, this is just a lie. d’oil has lied, called it god, and everyone there just winks at it and hops around and calls it worship. d’oil just walks back and forth. the drums slam and bang without any unity to the other instruments. anthony reece has not uploaded a video since april 12. the lie. it’s just a lie.
Another Davidson quote worth remembering, from Sunday (2).
Mr Davidson believes that Jesus Christ will heal every single person who comes to his (Doyle’s) meetings.
That is what he said.
Let’s see how that goes.
Sunday (2), Mr Davidson said that God promised him (Doyle) a ministry like His son’s (Jesus’s).
Yeah?
Read 2 Corinthians 6 and see if he (Davidson) measures up. “And working together with Him, we also urge you not to receive the grace of God in vain…giving no cause for offense in anything, so that the ministry will not be discredited, but in everything commending ourselves as servants of God, in much endurance…” Read the whole chapter if you have time.
Do we taste the ministry of reconciliation (2 Corinthians 5) working in and through Davidson? Can it be said that there is no cause for offense in anything he does? Can we say that his ministry is not discredited?
Consider Jesus, when he was afflicted and they spoke evil of Him: “He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth; Like a lamb that is led to slaughter, And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers, So He did not open His mouth.” (Isaiah 53:7).
Not a word. Silence. Jesus did not defend Himself, he did not keep a record of evil done against Him. He did not quote stories of how he was badly treated in 1974. He did not wish evil on those who persecuted Him. He wished them to be reconciled to the Father. he died for them. “Father forgive them”, He prayed.
He (Jesus) is our forerunner. He left us an example, that we may follow in His steps. It grips my heart to be called to become like Him.
I would be a lot less excited if I were called to follow in Doyle’s steps and be conformed to his image!
Doyle was, usual, all over the place and informed us that “Gawd took Terry OUT!”
Oh lovely. Drool has reduced our Heavenly Father to a hitman for the mob….
Free at last! without further delay…the moment you all have been waiting for with little patience and restaint…
http://inalley.wordpress.com/
There are many people who puff themeselves up with quotations from the Greek, Hebrew or some other “inside knowledge” into scripture.
I have not often found what such people contribute to be either particularly interesting, helpful and/or edifying. In some (rare) cases when i have checked a literal translation myself, I have found that what tehse “experts” have told me is complete nonsense.
I, for myself, have considerable confidence in the translation of the Bible as it stands and I have seen many, many people become extremely happy by reading for their own lives and putting it into practice.
It is easy to argue over words, but we are exhorted in Hebrews: “Leaving the doctrine of the first principles of Christ, let us press on unto perfection; not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, of the teaching of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.” (Hebrews 6:1-3)
They are actually amazing verses. The challenge is to go on to perfection and it’s obvious that endless discussion about the “first principles” works against this growth to perfection. In other words, it slows down our Christian walk. It is really interesting to read what is included in those basic teachings that we are exhorted to leave behind. It is also interesting to listen to people preach and see how much they talk about the “first principles”. Some seem to want to lay this foundation over and over again.
“But let press on to perfection…and this we do if God permits.” How wonderful it is when we have God’s permission to press on to perfection. How few, it seems, do so.
No one knows who is being affected by these evil, twisted teachings. I followed the Dena Schlosser trial very closely and there is no doubt Dena was deeply disturbed. She was fine as long as she was on her medication. John, her husband, and Dena sat night after night and listened to “medicine is witchcraft” from Doyle and it took it’s toll. Doyle couldn’t detect those so-called demons in Dena but he can everyone else. Wollers, open your eyes and let God’s real love penetrate your heart. How does that song go….Open my eyes Lord, that I may see Jesus…
Of late I’ve been thinking about the whole situation in Plano from a longer term perspective. The character of WOL has dramatically changed in a relatively short period of time. Last year this time, Doyle was ranting every night about the upcoming trip to California and Lisa coming home if only the Wollers would believe. John was to be conceived; he knew the exact dates. Gawd would not deny Doyle his rightful male heir. Mrs. Small was not in the picture. Doyle careened wildly between anger at everyone/everything, paranoia, drunkeness and morbid depression. We could count on a semi-regular sermon on the evils of the Plano police and the Collin County Prosecutors with a side trip back to the Dena Schlosser tragedy as Doyle too frequently protested his innocence. JR was regularly threatened with death or damnation, or both. There were periodic mentions of the satellite motel churches and KFC was making the rounds as guest speaker enthralling all of us and the local ‘crowd’ with insipid blabberings about her jet travel adventures, all paid for by Doyle. There were still some Apostles left back then. Mike Carter and Justin Lehrke were trying to locate a place to hold services when a portable toilet could have usually held their congregations. Anthony Reese regaled us with tales of busting his wafs butt, locking her in the bathroom for ‘discipline’ and her problems with her feet. Denton Hurley had not yet been convicted of child molestation. Doyle assured us of his innocence and that he and Terry were going to personally attend the trial. The Arkansas WOL was soon to be up and running. Hugh Campos of California was spoken of by Doyle now and then and actually came to Plano to speak incoherently a couple of times. That’s all changed. Campos is never spoken of or heard from. (Doyle was planning to stay with the Campo’s during the trip to California with Lisa for John’s Conception. The trip, obviously, never happened.) Hurley was convicted; Doyle never mentioned him again. Carter and Lehrke are gone to parts unknown after crossing Doyle over his failed prophecies. Reese is still out there looking and sounding like the skinhead he is. KFC is seldom, if ever, even seen anymore since Mrs. Small is living with Doyle. No more sharing OJ in the kitchen with Doyle; four is definitely a crowd. There’s no room for KFC anymore with Mrs. Small and the living memory of Lisa still occupying Doyle’s mind. Her visits to the motel churches, always morbidly fascinating, are no more and her website indicates no scheduled meetings. After being announced with great fanfare, her joint ‘Healing Ministry’ with Doyle hit the ground with a thud. NO victories have been reported save for Doyle’s “resurrection” of the fellow who got a concussion on the bikepath with Doyle. Lately Doyle wanted to start baptizing the dead having run out of live people at WOL. Finally it occurred even to Doyle that he was no longer physically able to continue cycling around Plano. Last year he was cycling 6 to 10 miles a day (sure). Now he can barely get off the stage. He couldn’t see the traffic but could be counted on the regularly blast the “damn Plano drivers”. Blind in his left eye and with poor vision in the other, he now has to have Basil read scriptures for him when he can’t remember them, a more frequent occurance. He used to bounce on and off the stage multiple times an hour. Now he practically falls off the stage after the prayer and has to use the steps on the right side to remount. When he walks it is with the flatfooted shuffle of an old man although occasionally a burst of epinephrine comes upon him and he skips a few steps. Even the hard-core have had a difficult time swallowing Doyle’s shack-up with Mrs. Small. Although on the brighter side, since Mrs. Small has moved in, Doyle doesn’t seem to be drinking as much as he was when living by himself. His nights spent alone in his house, half-plastered, gave us many interesting stories like Big Red the Dragon in the kitchen and his obsession with the witch who ‘meditates’ while buring tiki torches. Now apparently he and Mrs. Small spend their evenings researching Doyle’s ancestors as Doyle, sensing on some subconscious level his impending demise, is obviously struggling to make some sense out of his life and life’s work. Last year the WOL parking lot consumed his interest for a while as did the miscreant skateboarders. Then of course there were the spray painting incidents and frequent calls to the Police. Now we get Pilgrim stories. Doyle took a LOT of heat over his failed prophecies. Never knowing when to keep his mouth sut, his tendency to say whatever came into his head finally caught up with him as some people started to hold him accountable for the BS he was throwing out. You could actually FEEL the Wollers zone out as he launched into how he sold his veterinary practice for the billionth time. “Did you know that?” Oh, yes. Capping it all off was Terry Mai’s illness and death. This seems to have hit Doyle hard, insofar as he is even capable of feeling compassion for another human. Terry was probably his closest associate and his death has thrown Doyle for a loop. This was just not how it was supposed to play out. I believe, on some level, there is a deep crisis of faith going on in the cult and even with Doyle, although he would never admit it. Ordinarily he would just blast the Wollers harder as he projects his own lack of real faith onto them, but of late he just can’t seem to work up the energy to do that. He now, and with increasing frequency, can’t work up enough feeling or energy to speak; he just lets the girls dance while the men sit for a hour marinating in their own thoughts. WOL has been failing for years and the rate of decline in the organization, paralleling Doyle’s own physical health, is rapid and gaining speed. As Doyle looks back on his life and legacy even he has to feel a sense that it was all for nothing. As poor as his vision is even he can see that the buzzards are circling.
MBKMAN,
You really heard right that Davidson said that McCain would be president.
Here’s News for Lisa
September 26,2008 9:55PM
Lisa,
Amos 3:7 “surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secrets unto his servants the prophets” God has most certainly revealed to me John McCain is His President of the United States of America.
Doyle
We dont worry about what other people say.We have survived at least 3 websites put up agianst us and 3 or 4 specifically aimed at Rose.In a way I agree with what many doylebots have told me”If he is not of God then what he does will come to naught” We have witnessed just that in fact.
It’s also why I dont worry about critisism,If God doesnt want this Forum to be then it wont,if he does it will,I’m good with that.
Alan Havlick
MOL CULT PRESENTS THE WORDS OF THE DAY: ‘Acolyte’–in many denominations, one who performs such ceremonial duties as lighting altar candles. ‘Aqualyte’– a low calorie beverage obtained by turning on any faucet. In ‘cult’ usage- one who performs such ceremonial functions as running & leaping in circles, shaking a tambourine, exhibiting mini-seizures, hawking up copious amounts of phlegm, sleeping with the cult leader and practicing polyandry.
I have known Doyle Davidson for 15 years and he is and has always been a drunk, liar, adulterer and a con man. I am amazed that I could have been fooled for so long. We all knew he had a drinking problem and couldn’t deliver a sermon for love or money (even though he does love a buck), but I think we stayed out of habit more than anything. You get in the habit of going to the same place, seeing the same people and then you really don’t want to believe what you are hearing or seeing so you go into denial. He cons you into thinking you are special and his friend, when you really are nothing more than a source of entertainment. He laughs at people behind their back and talks about things that should not be discusssed in a House of God – it became too oppressive for me – I couldnt breathe any more.
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We are so thankful you are out of that wicked place!!!! i left 17 years ago when i saw (with my own eyes) doyle and lisa going to the woods to “pray”. it made me sick to think i had been listening to this man-telling us how to “walk with gawd” and look what he was doing with a married women and he himself married. we need to just keep praying that the ones still left will WAKE UP…….~lisah
I went back to watch Monday night to see if she really did say she was an Aqualyte in the Methodist Church. And she did. Three times.
Doyle’s longing for Lisa is unhealthy- It’s idolatry, just like a high schooler that is rejected by a girl he fantasizes and dreams of and the feeling is far from mutual. He is way too old for this “puppy love”. He finally gave up and settled for a substitute teacher (…hahahha Meg, I crack myself up too). Lisa is an attractive lady, and her husband is a good match for her.
Doyle allowed lust and lasciviousness to take over and yielded to his own heart, even if it was Lisa’s idea that they have “John”. She probably meant it as a joke anyway. Who knows what his confused mind understood by what was probably a jesting comment. Reminds me of when in high school, a guy says “I’ll call you” and you stay glued next to the phone for days and he hooks up with a bubbly cheerleader instead. Except this is much more serious and dangerous. It caused much heartache for the kids, and Doyle’s wicked heart to pronounce death on his enemy when he couldn’t get the desires of his heart.
He promoted Lisa to prophetess status to flatter her, just like he did Kathie. We all know by now that people appointed in the past to “be someone” was not God’s will . It was just a way to control, reward and bribe gullible people into staying and doing his will. And some still do. If those appointments were of God, all of the appointees would still be functioning in their roles, and not fainting or hiding. Kathie’s latest “testimony” is proof of how far removed she is of anything having to do with God, because she has Him confused with a man whose heart is full of hate.
Here’s a pretty comprehenive list of names attending WOL in 2001:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010405194611/www.doyledavidson.com/otherlnks.htm
It’s great that John and Carol Ferguson ran!
I was in a group once and Doyle said to us that he was putting Carol on the piano as a means to make sure John was there! What a con….always a motive for Doilet.
I went back and read the police report. I had forgotten the glaring implications of it. here is d’oil, who claims a woman is his wife. he is paying both of them a salary ( i have been in their home folks, or the one they used to have, and it is nice, two story, dallas suburban , way beyond my means)so he shows up at the home of the man and woman who is paid, on his staff, and goes upstairs, something violent ensues, harold calls the police, they smell alcohol on d’oil (and he later says many times, “you can be full of wine and be sober”) they arrest him. it is all about the money d’oil gave to them. harold would not bow out. this is not a thing that jesus would have a part of. it is so very simple. i dont see why you water of life people dont see it. well, i didnt for a long time. that is something i will have to live down. how i could be duped. but really, mr d’oil did not have the courage to come out and talk about it till later. when he was caught , up to no good. and then, to say that he was just doing god’s will is brazen and deceitful to the “umpteenth” power. as he has said recently. and in the wake of it, after many endured the “lisa will come home “junk, terry mai dies. how can you people not see the error in all this? amazing.
All Davidson and the current WOLers have together is their sick co-dependency. WOL has nothing to do with the love of Christ, or even the Golden Rule; emotional illness hangs in the air like some foul smell.
The fact is that some people thrill to being threatened and browbeaten by a drunken stepfather, and Davidson is more than happy to assume that role.
The downward spiral will only end when Davidson is either incapacitated by age/illness or croaks. The real tragedy is that, even after Davidson is no more, the kind of abuse he fostered will no doubt continue within WOL families, perhaps for generations.
Good work, Doyle. Bottoms Up.
Kathie speaks: leading off with a tale of her girlhood days as a Methodist (she claims to have been an acolyte, but mispronounces the word repeatedly as “aqualyte”).
The upshot of her story is that Doyle has evidently convinced her that everything she has done in her life up until recently (since she moved in with Doyle) has been “rebellion”. She is firmly under Doyle’s thumb.
The music slog has begun. Kathie is now in a blue chair, sobbing to herself. This is all so sick…
Al
It’s been awhile since I said it,so let me say it again now please.There are times when,,We may edit or delete a comment.If you are critical of another brother or sister here or get into a theological argument instead of a discussion,we might edit out that part(Dont you kids make me come up there!)
There was a time when we were willing to discuss whether doyle was right or wrong but if you dont know the answer to that by now…keep reading and dont comment,there is no excuse for him now,there is no argument you can make that has not been answered here,thats why doyle doesnt allow them to come here.
Anyhoo,back to the subject,Somtimes in the cleaning up of comments,well,,after scanning 400 comments split up into 25 different pages your humble monitors brain can go numb and think its on page 14 and should hit delete when actually it is on page one…Additionally,as much as I love wordpress,somtimes there system eats your comment.So dont always think you have been edited or deleted by us please,if your unsure write the bobdarwin address or mine bear7373@yahoo.com ,I neglect that address but will eventually get to it :+) and even if we have deleted or edited you that doesnt mean you are not welcome here or that you will be blocked on other comments,not at all,but really I feel the Spirit telling me to stay focused on Doyle,we have fun and talk about our cats in the off hours but were focused on doyles controversy not on trying to create it here.
I will try to be more dilligent in emailing the folks we edit or delete in the future but I know I forgot and assumed you would figure it out in the past(no you didnt figure it out,haha)the bobdarwin and bear addresses are always open to you.I DID feel so alone when I first realized what was being done to the children of WOL,what can One voice do??I Praise God for all of your voices and dont feel alone in it at all anymore,thankyou for coming here and loving God,you are always welcome here.
Alan Havlick
Here are some of the Mai gal’s Facebook comments:
I’m getting ready for church.
I tried a new dance move at church.
I just got home from church. I feel tired and depressed.
Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
“I feel tired and depressed”…wow! who wouldn’t be after going through what they have had to endure all their lives….Mama Mai, be a mother and take them away from Pops…rab
Gadarene? So Kathie now bears the name of demon posessed swine?
Bob: credible messages from God only come at 3:33. Please note that for future prognostications.
Exposedd:“Doyle is like a set of claws dragging itself down a wall of souls,ripping apart as many as he can before he reaches the End and falls into the abyss”.
One of the best visuals of what we’re looking at. Could that be put in bold on the site and memorialized? It’s fabulous summation of what’s going on.
“But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.” (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
We thought we were leaving religion behind, but we learned new rituals and worshiped different idols. We were just replacing one form of hypocrisy with another. We became someone else, and thought by acting and talking like Doyle, we would be more like Jesus. Well, Jesus never lied. He never called for someone’s death. He never took someone else’s wife. He never used scripture to justify his sins, because he HAD none.
Thusdays show was interesting,dilligan said He”went off TV” that is not really what happened,lets set the record straight right now,YOU WERE KICKED OFF TV,and WE will see that you never get on it agian.
Alan Havlick
Doyle’s rambling Terry Mai tangent goes nowhere. Of course, it’s an opportunity for Doyle to practice his stock-in-trade: puffing himself up by bullying his flock around. A bully is all he is, really.
Doyle sure confuses himself with God a lot. That’s called megalomania, and is symptomatic of a paranoid disorder.
Doyle says God could give him 100 wives, and it would be nobody’s business. Doyle, don’t you think you should be able to satisfy one woman before thinking about 100?
I turned off the webcast when the music slog began.
Al
March 30:
Mr Davidson: “…God told me that in my heart, as David, I could kill the husband that she (Lisa) lived with. And I couldn’t understand that for one minute. That came before God even gave her to me.”
That’s an actual quote. Need we need more evidence that here we have someone who cannot discern between the voice of God from the lust of his own flesh?
Even with a basic understanding of biblical history…David killed Uriah out of lust and God was not pleased with him. I think Mr Davidson used exactly the right example to demonstrate what really happened when “God gave him a wife”.
James 4:2 underlines Mr Davidson’s Wednesday night message. I quoted it in my previous post, but read it again in the context of the above:
“You lust and do not have; so you commit murder. You are envious and cannot obtain; so you fight and quarrel. You do not have because you do not ask.”
Once again, Mr Davidson, to quote Job 15:6, “Your own mouth condemns you, and not I; And your own lips testify against you.”
A glimpse of the Old Doyle briefly shone through as he again launched into a rant against JR and Lisa. Ah, the good old days. Gawd, we were told, gave Doyle the authority to kill JR even before the affair with Lisa started. Which poses the question: If Gawd gave Doyle the authority to kill JR, why is JR still alive? Doyle’s Gawd is a vengeful gawd who “will KILL those that try to destroy his workers.” You wicked unbelievers have been warned that Gawd WILL kill you for opposing Doyle. (MOL CULT BELIEF: God doesn’t kill people. Making bad choices CAN kill you, such as refusing to see a physician when you should. That is a BAD decision). Going further in his rant against JR, Doyle said: “JR was a slick liar but he couldn’t fool me.” Let’s see: First, Doyle made JR an APOSTLE. Is Doyle saying he knowingly conferred Apostleship on a person he KNEW was a ’slick liar’? (Once again Doyle attempts to redefine the past knowing that no Wollers will call him on it.) Secondly, Lisa remained MARRIED to ‘Slick’ for the entire 17 year-long affair with Doyle. So Doyle (and Gawd) had 17 years to kill JR but didn’t. A reasonable person MIGHT conclude that, since Gawd surely had ample opportunity during those years to have an anvil fall on JR, or have him attacked by wolverines, or be hit upside the head with a meteorite, maybe GOD doesn’t want JR to die. Maybe God has a plan for JR and maybe it has something to do with BRINGING DOYLE DAVIDSON DOWN.
Well robert has said it better than anyone could. Great post. thank you. This tired old argument about “If this man is of God you will be fighting god” is used up completely. This man walking back and forth on the carpet surrounded by tambourine ladies is not of God. there is nothing there but exactly that. Not of God.
I have little or no encounters with demons. They seem to follow Mr Davidson around a lot, though.
I was disgusted and angered by Kathy’s latest “testimony”.
Kathy: Don’t you DARE seek to justify your actions by attributing the decision to God. From what I have read and heard, your “solution” comes from Mr Davidson and not God. Please don’t confuse the two, they are very, very different. Could it be that your own lack of faith in God caused you accept such a “solution”?
Verse of the day, therefore, comes from 2 Timothy 3:6:
“For among them are those who enter into households and captivate weak women weighed down with sins, led on by various impulses…”
Good to see you MKMAN! We missed you! rab
GOOD to see you here again- don’t be a stranger!!
Blessings,
Cheryl
Well, I see Doyle is up to his old crappola. Now he is calling for Jack Small’s death. I wonder how this goes over with wife #3 and her children? Have they all lost their minds?
Just noticed that Chapter II is up at http://robertlynn.wordpress.com/
Very Interesting!
I have posted the second part of the conversation that Robert & Lynn had with Doyle underneath the picture of Raheem’s Family tree…be sure and visit their blog as well the link is as follows:
http://robertlynn.wordpress.com
Took a quick look at Dingus’ borrrrring geneology post that referenced a castle. Since I find castles interesting, I checked the Tulloch Castle website.
Turns out that some of the info. there might indeed point towards a connection with our modern-day-false-apostle-whore-mongering-davidson.
Where exactly is the castle located? The city of Dinguswall. It really is.
What region? Yes, in the very epicenter of where the best scotch in the world comes from.
The castle is now a hotel, and has been haunted for centuries by the “green lady” ghost. We of course recognize this lady as the pesky jezebel still wrestled with today by the helpless davidson clan.
Dinguswall-dingusWOL
Doyle’s branch of the family tree has way too many waffs sitting on it. It’s starting to crack. Watch out below!
The only demons there are the ones Doyle plants in the minds of the Wollers. EVERYTHING Doyle does: the repetitive ‘prayer’, the nonsensical and rambling ’sermons’, the music and the dance ALL serve to create a WOLLER who accepts everything Doyle says with absolute credulity. Because of the extent to which the Wollers have been conditioned, their immersion in the trance state is rapidly achieved. It is important to understand that, while the Wollers believe this to be a spiritual state wherein they are ‘closer to Gawd’, it is NOT. Any person with training in the induction and maintenance of hypnotic states could achieve the same results. Doyle rails against medicine and psychology but that’s because anyone with speciality training can easily see through what he does.
How can Doyle, an old old man, not understand that he’s close to facing God at judgment, continue to live like the devil and blaspheme the Holy Spirit? Does he not understand that judgment is coming?
The death of Terry was just another judgment by God. What else must happen to Doyle.
As has been posted here numerous times, it’s clear that Doyle is concerned with himself above all else. God, Christ and the Bible are simply means to an end for him. Doyle has gone so far down the rabbit-hole of his twisted fantasies that he’ll never come back to sanity, if indeed he ever was sane.
People who manipulate others through intimidation and fear are haunted and terrified creatures. They may be adept, as is Doyle, at presenting a mask of authority, but fear is really all they know.
I have absolutely no respect or concern for Doyle Davidson, but my heart breaks for those who have given themselves over to him.
The women all stay because Doyle is their husband and the castrated men stay because Doyle’s wives tell them to.
DING, DING, DING!@!!!@#%!!!! YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD!!!!!!! rab
It wasn’t surprising to hear Doyle say that Jesus Christ was sick in the head, had lost his mind. It’s quite common for mentally ill people to think that everyone else is crazy. For Doyle to insinuate that Jesus was “off” shows just how far gone Doyle really is. It also shows how far gone the cult members are for not walking out the doors on that one.
To WOL: find the courage to leave that God forsaken place. Your stubborness is as idolatry. Your finances are supporting the theft of your families from right under your noses. Even Jack was clueless right before reality hit and he allowed the devil to take control of his family, thinking all along he was obeying God! If you love yourselves and your family, remove yourselves and LIVE! How many more casualties will it take to open your eyes ? Do you really believe you will be abandonned by God if you quit following a man? Your salvation DOES NOT depend on Doyle, regardless of how many times he has assured and convinced you of that.
Yes, I was the one that made the comment about Terry’s demise. When Doyle prayed to have J.R destroyed for being a liar, it was Terry who lied to protect Doyle. If you think that God is playing games, think again. If you think Doyle has more faith than all of you, then ask yourselves…why are all those around you dying? His faith can’t sustain his own flock..and he thinks he is going to heal the nations? Faith comes by hearing…when is the last time you heard the true gospel in that place? What happened to all those testimonies we used to write about? How much more collateral will you families have to put up to appease that idolatry? Just think, once you are gone, how will Doyle seduce his next victims when the cadillacs and weekly paychecks are dried up? When you come face to face with God and He asks you if you were faithful with what He gave you, how will you explain that you paid for hotel rooms, expensive roses and cars, instead of feeding the poor and preaching the truth? REPENT AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL!
There is some information that I recently recieved from a reliable source that indicates that Terry was instructed to twist the truth when J.R and Lisa told the “Apostles” what happened, to make them look like liars. That is when several of the Apostles left as they would not agree to lie about the truth. Terry was Doyle’s mouthpiece. Doyle has always reminded us that our battle is not with flesh and blood, but with principalities, powers and dominions in high places. He also stated that if we got what we deserved, we would all be dead. He also stated that judgment begins in the house of God. I went to too many funerals at WOL to believe that this was just all coincidence. I have been in the insurance industry for 20 years and I know two people that I worked with who passed away. I will try to locate the scripture that Steve L. shared with us and maybe it will explain better the point I am trying to make. I know those guys that left around the same time I did. They were humble men that finally had enough of the lies and deception. Even Ralph, who God showed much mercy in his life, came very close to losing his daughter Randy.
wow.tonight doyle said “all those who prayed to have god put j r down are responsible for terry’s demise” terry mai came down with lymphotic cancer i think,, and he died.
The Wollers don’t and can’t deal with Doyle’s not being a proper elder. Doyle is the leader, owns the building and controls the money….and the people. You either conform, believe what he says, or get out. People with brains and spiritual descernment leave as many have done. When one has watched as long as some of us, we have it figured out, although I still don’t quite understand how someone can leave their brain at the door.
Mr Davidson, by his own public statement is currently the husband of two wives (Wednesday night), despite the Bible clearly requiring and elder to be the husband of ONE wife.
This requirement is not from the law of Moses – it is the Apostle Paul who wrote it first.
How does WOL deal with the problem that their apostle is not an elder according to God’s word?
obviously he can’t read 5th grade……he has said before that he has the “faith” for things other don’t…..lisah
How stupid can people be? Kathi Small, an educated woman, is living with a man who is not her husband who says Lisa S. is still his wife. What could she be thinking?
She has given up her home, possibly some of her children, her teaching career to live with a reprobate who is 20 plus years older than her.
Kathi Small, you are a sorry example of a Christian woman, wife and mother. What you have done is indefensible. You are out of your mind.
Wednesday night Doyle reaffirmed that Lisa is still his waff. He also reaffirmed that Kathie Small is his waff. So Doyle sees nothing wrong with having multiple wives. Will he stop at two?
I have to admit true happiness was hard to find and at times impossible while attending this place. Rosie is right! What happiness I had over those years came from my children, my husband and my personal prayer life and study with the Lord. The oppression and heaviness that was and is there still is not the Spirit of God. The Spirit of Heaviness is caused by the Spirit of Anti-Christ and Whoredom. WE knew nothing of Spiritual Warfare so we believed Doyle when he said that it was a Spiritual Warfare that caused the heaviness, and he was paritally right, but believers were warring with the Spirit of Self Worship in HIM (Doyle). Remember when he would shout SUBMIT! Over and over again? He was commanding us to submit to what was in him. We need to repent of EVER submitting, even though it was in total ignorance.
God has not remained silent,the once magnificent voice
doyle had is now a bitter cough,he condems himself with
the very words he would condem others with,God has stopped him from catching unaware those homebound folks switching thru the TV channels hoping for comfort and shelter under Gods wings only to be eaten alive by doyle davidsons blind pride and insanity,people are leaving his church in droves and his little clone churches are closing.I know I sound exsaperated somtimes but we have been so blessed and God is still moving so hang in there folks and keep the moderators in your prayers.
Alan Havlick
I will back up what Isabel Nalley said about Doyle and abusive marriages.
My first husband was very abusive to me, and to my children. I went to Doyle, as my Pastor, and asked him for help and guidance. He basically told me the same thing as Isabel. Just to “suck it up” and “believe god”.
He went further with me: he told ME that the abuse was MY FAULT! He said it was because I wasn’t walking “in faith”, wasn’t “believing god”…. when I told him I needed to leave, for my children’s sake, he told me that snide remark: “well, you can sanctify your unbelieving husband”… then went on to say basically I shouldn’t leave! Even though there was physical abuse!
So what did I do? As a “Blue Chair”, I did just as Doyle told me. I stayed in the abuse, and watched my children be abused by an alcoholic father, have him call me names , call my kids names, beat them with a belt when he was drunk, etc.
I say all this to say:
I DO NOT IN ANY WAY BELIEVE JACK SMALL WAS “ABUSIVE” TOWARD KATHIE SMALL. I DIDN’T LIVE WITH THEM, SO I CANNOT SAY FOR SURE, BUT I DO NOT BELIEVE THESE VILE ALLEGATIONS ABOUT JACK!
If Jack Small is reading this:
JACK, we do NOT believe these things about you!
doyle,
“For your guilt teaches your mouth, And you choose the language of the crafty. Your own mouth condemns you, and not I; And your own lips testify against you.” Job 15:5-6
So according to Doyle’s “teachings” he ain’t wicked for sleeping with JR’s wife, Lisa. He ain’t wicked for sleeping with Jack Small’s wife Kathie. Lisa and Kathie aren’t wicked for sleeping with him. It’s JR and Jack Small who be the wicked ones…
In 1Tim.3 it says an overseer should be the husband of ONE wife. God knew that if a man had more than one wife, his life would be dominated by his wives not God! Doyle you are an excellent example of what becomes of someone with more than one wife, it is your total attention.
On Sunday evening, Mr Davidson describes how he moved from Lisa to Kathleen.
Listen closely and you’ll hear exactly what’s going on:
Mr Davidson lost patience and he (not God) decided that he would take someone else.
News Flash – Monday night Doyle says that God didn’t exactly say that he gave Lisa to Doyle as a wife. He just gave her to him. So Doyle is basically saying that he declared Lisa to be his wife, not God. There ya go WOL cult members, it’s your cult leader that determines which one of your women will be his wife, not God.
You don’t get off that easy Dude…we have you recorded saying specifically that GOD gave you a whore for a wife…and how would we like it if God gave us a whore for a wife…poor pitiful little man…rab
There is no such thing as “faith to take another mans wife”.
Doyle Davidson’s problem is that he has NOT walked by faith for 30 years. He has walked or been led by his own fleshly desires and he wants you to think that is faith. It is not
His adultery with Lisa Staton is manifest evidence that he was not walking by faith. Adultery is adultery and Doyle cannot make it a righteous act simply by redefining the term.
Jesus said you will know them by their fruit – by what their lives produce. I know Davidson by his fruit – he has lied, he has committed adultery, he has hated people in his heart and has called for their death, he has taken money by manipulation and deceitful means, he has drawn away disciples unto himself – all these things are evidence that he is not a righteous man. There is no such thing as faith to commit unrighteous acts.
Now he may commit unrighteous acts and not feel any conviction about them but that is because his conscience is seared by many years of sinful living.
What you see today is the end result of an unrepentant sinner. God has given him over to a reprobate mind. He honestly does not believe he is in sin – but he is and the greatest judgment upon him and those who still follow him is that they cannot see what is obvious to everyone else. Only those who practice righteousness are in fact righteous.
OK that is all for today.
The bible says that everything is to be done decently and in ORDER.
Cheryl
here is the link again to Wendy and Doug Duncan’s website on spiritual abuse and cults.
http://www.dallascult.com/
They have a support group which meets once a month in dallas. i attended today and just want to encourage all here to find more resources. on the link, you can find books and websites that are helpful.
Several of us witnessed with our eyeballs, the “prayer” going on at Lake Lavon, The Plano Civic Center, the west-side WOL church, as well as other places.
Many people on this forum are very harsh when it comes to Lisa Staton. I too, used to be, as well. But after years and years of healing and spiritual help, although LS did commit adultery with DD, people not familiar with this kook, probably cannot grasp the demonic hold he has over people. I am not excusing her behavior. But LS was truly under DD’s “spell”- just like the rest of the Blue Chairs still there. LS seems to have wised up and told him to take a hike. I truly hope that LS and JR are having a wonderful marriage now.
So what does DD do?
Makes his move on another MARRIED woman, and destroys THAT marriage and family. He’s a home wrecker, a menace to society.
VERSES KATHEE SMALL QUOTES ABOUT HER MARRIAGE TO JACK SMALL ON HER WEBSITE
3:18
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
1 Peter 3:1
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.
If the Word of God is just that-the Word of God, then women cannot teach or usurp authority over men;
1 Timothy 2:12
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
If the Word of God is just that-the Word of God, then women cannot be apostles, prophets, teachers, elders, or bishops;
1 Timothy 3:2
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife <——-GET IT DOYLE ONE WIFE…..rab
1 Timothy 3:12
Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife <——GET IT DOYLE ONE WIFE….rab
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Where’s your marriage certificate?
Whoa.Tonight he named Kathleen as Terry’s replacement, appointed by God.
Hello all, yes all the dancing and the demon binding is coreographed by Doyle. He decides when it will start and start and he would never let the cameras record certain things. Like last night during his opening prayers he was laughing, snickering, looking like the devil himself. This is very frightening. Plano police do know all about him, he is being watched, they do have an insider at the church and it is not a Baptist or Mason. IRS Criminal Investigation Division has an eye on him as well and knows exactly what he is doing. BUT if he comes on my property or contacts me again in anyway, he is in violation of a protective order and he is in jail. We are not going to be harassed by a madman or his concubine. I guess I have to reset up my email since we changed everything yesterday. It is not working Im told.
lisa
drool called us up at 6 o’clock in the morning and said if we didn’t repent and go back- he was going to pray to gawd to turn us over to satan for the destruction of our flesh unto death…….i can promise you, if anyone from there showed up at my door–i’d be calling the police so fast.
I have heard from several people personally that Doyle called their homes and places of business and asks for money. So, another lie from Doyle when he says that he never asks. Sounds great on the Circus Show, but is just another lie. He does check the computer to see who is not giving, then tells them they are having problems because they are not tithing.
Wonder how everyone feels to have provided motels and cars for he and Lisa. Now, it’s furniture and 4k a month for Kathleen.
Plano Blue Chair told me Cauthorns paid for Doyle’s present home and Caddy and furnished it.
Just a few moments ago, Doyle indicated that effective immediately, he will stop televising his ’show’ on his last remaining TV station because he has, at long last, overcome the Baptists. He’s apparently tired of the people who watch it and then call him up wanting to know what in the world is going on at WOL. After much struggle he has also overcome the Baptists who killed Terry. And he is overcoming the Wicked Demons and Philistines who have affected/afflicted his eyesight. MOL CULT EDITORIAL STATEMENT: With the end of the TV telecasts, a milestone has been reached. Many people were involved in educating the TV stations in Springfield, Mo, Tulsa, OK and Joplin Mo about just WHAT they were putting on the air. Those stations took him off the air and now Dallas-Fort Worth is free from this man’s polluting of the airways. God has silenced his ability to reach the masses. It is indeed a victory. Now limited to the Internet, he will sink further into the obscurity he so richly deserves. It is possible that maintaining Mrs. Small in the manner to which she is entitled much have put ‘pressure’ on his financial status to the point that a choice had to be made between her or staying on TV. Or maybe the TV station finally realized just what kind of garbage they were transmitting.
How long ago was it that Doyle posted:
My third wife will not be: KFC, Terre Brown or Kathy Small.
I guess changing her name to Kathleen eliminates the above?
I visited twice because I just HAD to see what the cameras don’t show for myself. It is a large room and in those days the chairs were setup in rows all the way across. the only dancing was done in the blue area in front of the pulpit if that is what we can call it.And the old man we called Hippity Hop would skip from one leg to another by himself.I was ignored by most Bluechairs but got an eerie look from Terre Brown that was scary. The last visit, I witnessed Doylie and Terry Mai both drunk as Cooter Brown. Terre and Doylie would walk around the place driving demons out of well rehearsed participants. Terry stumbled and almost fell into the chairs then looked at Doylie and they both broke into laughter (not seen on camera). Doylie likes to walk into the hallway to the right as you are looking at the pulpit. My guess is that his office has a bottle of scotch or glass of wine waiting during the taping.Got to keep that beautiful speaking voice lubricated. Nails on a chalkboard, ABEN !!
Davidson associate pleads guilty to child molestation.
A former minister of Water of Life Church and associate of cult leader Doyle Davidson has pleaded guilty in Missouri to one count of statutory sodomy, a second degree felony.
Denton W. Hurley of Anderson Missouri entered the guilty plea in state court on Monday December 15. Under terms of the plea agreement Hurley received a four year suspended sentence plus five years of supervised probation. He will also be required to register as a sex offender and enroll in an 18 month sex abuse rehabilitation class.
Here is a link to the complete story including the audio of my telephone conversation with Doyle
http://www.apostasywatch.com/wolves/hurleyguilty.htm
I know that Deana gave WOL her car, title and all and that she gave Doyle more money than she should have, leaving her family to only eat sparsley while she attended WOL. Doyle takes from those who cannot afford to even feed their families, he does this by intimidation. If you don’t give him your money, you are wicked, unbelieving and a Jezebel. Doyle is the wicked one when it comes to treating Christians right. He takes and takes and never gives back.
Donna
What is MOL? I always see it, but do not understand what it means?
RevDrdm:What is MOL CULT? MOL CULT is a fictional construct from the fertile minds of myself and Billy Cabernet.Based on the Water Of Life Cult model, the Money Of Life Cult is a satirical device intended to poke fun at WOL. There is NO MOL CULT and never has been. Billy C and I awarded ourselves Apostleships with NO authority whatsoever, just like Doyle did at WOL. Doyle believes Gawd made hiim an Apostle. Billy and I thought that was a great scam and created the MOL CULT with Gawd’s blessing too. You can’t PROVE otherwise. Having said that, Reverend Doctor Cabernet and myself are the Founding Apostles and Profits of MOL CULT. Rosie Brucie is an Elect Lady but MAY be promoted to Prophetess if she works on her attitude. I think there’s a Dave who is Apostle of Hawaii or something. Apostleships are for sale at nominal prices. MOL CULT, like WOL, believes NOTHING really. We require nothing. You don’t have to DO anything or go anywhere. Nightly meetings are a waste of time (see Doyle’s nightly services) and so we don’t do them. Occasionally RevDrC or myself will pontificate about something or other, but usually not. MOL CULT is a great cult to be in and you should consider joining. Of course, based on the WOL model, wimmin are second class citizens and can never be actual Apostles. We are considering the establishment of the REFORMED MOL CULT in which anybody can be anything they want, get an education, and have some self-esteem. However if we do this, it will realistically be a split/schism from the WOL model which promulgates remaining ignorant and gullible, lack of formal education, recognizing that you are totally worthless and further recognizing that you will be unable to hit the ground with your hat without Doyle to lead you.
AH
Miss Brimley I have known of Doyle Davidson since I was 16 and I am now 50 years old as he lived in the town I was raised in and he went to the United Methodist Church I was raised in. He has always been strange and when he sold his vet practice in McKinney, Texas he became stranger than ever. We even used him as our vet before he locked the doors, so he told everyone. He told my husband that he was quitting vet medicine because God had called him to do something else.
Everyone in my town knows he is nuts and he has been asked to leave public places due to his extreme behavior.
I have never attended his Church and never would because he is the opposite of Christian, not godly at all. I also know that he has hurt many people by taking their money or telling them not to take medication that caused them to do harmful things to themselves and others.
Donna
My gooooodness this is CRAZY! I love his slang for the different groups. Most people are not familiar with “Limey” (Brits) Krauts (German). Doyle threw them around tonight. He also screamed about Mexicans and Native Americans.
Good Day Alan!
My stance on this subject is to be very patient and understanding first. I don’t think it’s humanly possible to talk, trick or argue with these people to leave that place. Prayer has got to be the way my Heavenly Father can hear us through his Son, and help these poor souls. They feel they already know Gods loving kindness more than all of us but yes they must miss it tremendously. Imagine having to hear Doyle brag about himself and violently screaming his curse words daily. It has got to wear on you and beat you down emotionally and spirtually until you submit completely which is where they all are now. I almost cry thinking about putting my family through what I did,day in and day out. We missed out on life itself. Just being able to freely talk about anything without the fear of having Doyle approve of it was breathtaking! Taking a well deserved vacation was incredible? Why in the world did we get condemned so much by Doyle for even thinking about one? I wondered,,why do we not grow together as a family? How could we? Doyle was the father and husband of every family if he liked your wife enough and what he said went. Father’s did not have a say,even in their own families. Where do you think all the craziness of the children’s behavior’s came from in that church? No one in that church recognized anybody but Doyle as the last word. How sad that all they do is worship Doyle instead of GOD. how sad indeed.
Another Ex-member
I can only speak from my own experience, but my husband and others that I have met are weak people. My husband is a follower and has always been looking for approval from an elder male. His father told him for the first time that he loved him when he was 32. That is a long time to wait to hear those words from a parent. So,he has always looked for acceptance. Doyle knows my husband is weak and will do anything he says. I hear the poor man tell doyle just that. It is so sad to see an adult man be so controlled by another. Whenever there is a problem of any kind, everyone (including Dena Schlossers husband) calls Doyle. That is sick. But, because they are constantly told that they are unbelievers, wicked, only Doyle can believe, what do you expect. They are dependent on Doyle as he wishes. All I am experiencing here now is an extreme amount of anger out of my spouse. I am called a wicked ubeliever because I do not attend WOL, after I was told to stay home because I was a hypocrite. You cannot win for loosing. God is healing my heart more each day, it is not easy living with a WOL’er but God will prevail! As said before, my husband’s family and friends are praying for him to be released from this cult.
People stay at WOL out of ‘FEAR’.
It is ministered that WOL is the only church where the Gospel is preached.
My husband stays becasue he is puffed up with being called to be an Apostle. The recognition makes him feel like he is someone. Like I stated previously, his dad did not show much love or affection to his sisters and him. Doyle has filled that gap! He is constantly looking for approval from Doyle, not GOD.
So, from our family perspective, that’s what keeps my husband there…and fear that if he leaves he will go to hell for leaving a prophet’s ministry
AND ANOTHER EX-MEMBER
Well I hate to admit this but I too was once a follower of Doyle (the Deceiver) Davidson.
By follower I mean that I would watch his programs and attend his meeting when he came to town here in
Springfield or Joplin Missouri.He introduced JR and Lisa to me as husband and wife in 2001,
but he failed to tell me that he had been having a 13 year affair with her.
I nor my friends and family consider me to be naive or gullible but some how I fell under his spell.
What he does is truly cast a spell of control over those who fall for his lies.
Why it happened, I don’t know. Am I mad, hurt or feel like a fool? The answer is no,not really.
What I feel is humbled. Humbled to know that I’m not half as smart as I thought
I was and that I too can be hoodwinked by a wolf in sheep’s clothing. But the good news is
God brought me out of it with no ones help but his. 1st God told me: If I never saw or
heard Doyle again I would be OK.
2nd When Doyle whould make certain prophecies, predictions or drunken guesses God would immediately
tell me No that is not going to happen. Here are some of those: He was going to own a lear jet like
the one he flew to Springfield in,
He was going to Israel, Lisa would be back home to him in time to
go to Israel with him.
The best one was In 2004 at one of his meetings in Joplin he said,
Kenneth Copeland would be dead within the year. So I started the Kenneth Copeland death watch
and the last time I checked he is still breathing an going strong and we are at 3 years and counting.
I tested the spirit for truth and I determined he is a liar. The bells rang, the lights flashed and
the confetti flew.
I have one request that everyone one prays for my cousin who led me to doyle,She has lost it
all and is still going down hill but still believes he is a man of God and lead by God.I have barely
scratched the surface with what I have said however I will close with this,
since I have come to realize what a fraud he is and not believe a single word he says
my life has done a complete turn around and I am headed out of the pit that listening to him put me in……
I will pray that the real Christian men who have left WOL
would stand up.God Bless all of You and Especially you Kristina from
PA MAY GOD TRULY OPEN YOUR EYES AND HEART.
And Another
My husband and I left that place about 16 years ago. I remember being in so much fear from Doyle. A few days after we left Doyle called us at 5:50 a.m. and said that if we didn’t repent and go back there he would pray to God to turn us over to Satan for the distruction unto death. I was about six or seven months pregnant with our third son. Let me tell you, Doyle is a very sick man. Brian went to Ralph and someone else can remember and wanted to know what was going on with him and Lisa. He just lied to my husband and twisted it around and tried to make HIM feel guilty. I remember thinking how CRAZY is this. I knew he wasn’t a man of God
It took alot of time to heal and I still am healing from that controlling, hateful man. It has taken me along time to be able to trust people in a church setting. I have been going to a church now for a little over a year now. I am still being set free from crap he taught us. It is so different to be able to ask questions and not be judged by people. When we left if was so hard because we had lost all of our so-called friends. I only had my sister to talk to about all this. People who don’t like this blog just don’t need to read it.I wish if had been availible for me when we left.One thing that helped me overcome was about two years ago, I confronted Doyle in front of the church I drove by there and he was outside. I told him somethings i needed to get off my chest. I wasn’t scared to my surprise. It was SO FREEING. Of course he lied about what was said. I believe he lies about 99.99% of the time. For the people who have left, just continue to know you did the right thing. God is still delivering me from bitterness, being judgemental of others and unforgiveness. Thanks to the people who do this website. Thank you!!!!!!
Lisa
And Another
Hello,
I have been reading here for about 2 weeks now, and have even posted on SPM. I thought my husband was smart,kind, then he started listening to DD, now he is cruel and has ended our marriage because God didnt builded me for him, what does that mean?? where is that in the bible?
My husband has even went to texas,(we live in Tennessee) and I can tell ya,when I saw him walking in circles with the rest of those people I knew he is in Gods hands now.
He is going back this weekend. he moved out 3 months ago because I would’nt agree to listen to this crazy man.
I e-mailed Doyle Davidson, which I know it probably doesnt phase him, but I wanted to tell him myself how many people are praying for God to take him down, and it will happen.I know that it’s time for me to move on.and I am,
It is hard, My husband sends me e-mails about me not being the wife God bulided him for the foundation bla bla bla…he is a mini me of Doyle. its scary, and you are right, who knows what he will do.
In my opinion, God probably “builded” him a wife in texas, and I look for him to quit his job and move there soon.
The things that he says are so crazy and very confusing.
When this frist stated about 5 months ago, it was sites like this one that made me realize that I wasn’t the crazy one. and I thank you all for that.Just thought I would write and let you guys know, my husband is there, all week. and as i said before I e-mailed Doyle Davidson,and got a response.
Last night my husband called me to let me know that Doyle ask to speak with him and told him that he recieved my e-mail.
I don’t know if he thought that would scare me, but I’m not afraid of him. Thank you all for your prayers.
Pam
And Another
I am a Recent defector. Many years lost in WOL. At one time it seemed on the right track. I only wish I was awake enough and out of my doyle stupor to notice when he began going off the wall. I am coming out so help me God. Just beginning to pick up my life and my kids lives. I am so sorry to them for dragging them through this. But I will gather them all up and by God I will never be duped like this EVER again. Angry is an Understatement. May the true God deal with me and help me., I dont know where to start. I know one thing. I AM ANGRY as I can be, at myself for following lies and being too afraid to not follow.
When doyle shacks up with these other people’s wives and carries on and on…..LIVES GET DESTROYED. If it is not too late like in my case, you can have the prescence of mind to begin again. Beginning is difficult. Doyle, dont play with people’s lives. When they send money to you to buy furniture for your concubines, furniture that I have never bought for myself..online…it is horrible. I dont have a Caddilac…and for all I sent….so your womensss can be comfortable, LIVES GET SCREWED UP. it is a nightmare to wake up and see all the repair work ahead of my family. From down in this barrel, there is nowhere to go but up.
And Another
I have had to change my phone numbers today, woke up to people praying at my door. The Cauthorns are not the only big money givers in the church – or maybe they are since others of us have just left. My husband is getting calls at his office to repent and to meet with the people from the church that love us and dont want to see us drown in unbelief and sin,this has to be harrassment.
My husband just informed me that he has filed a harassment complaint with the Plano Police Dept this morning and if he sees one WOLer anywhere around our home he is filing stalking charges and getting a restraining order. He says he is not going to have me upset every waking moment.
And Another
I just read Jack Smalls confesion…It makes me sick..and sounds very familiar..My husband told me that God seperated us also, after listening to Doyle day and night.
It’s been almost a year now..hard to believe.
We are not divorced yet..he does not think that is necessary since God did not build me for him in the first place.
I still can not believe that my husband thinks that DD is a prophet of God.
I pray for my husband, all the people that thinks he speaks for God..A broken home is one thing, but your salvation is another.
And dozens of stories like this,
I have a daughter and family who goes there and I am concerned. They are like zombies and fully taken into the doctrine. I have seen a decline in the last year or so as they go more often. The children go but I know they do not want to. They do not go to doctors unless they have to and neither of the adults go at all. It worries me to see them like this and really there is nothing I can do. I had cancer (lymphoma) and since have recovered. She called me and told me it was because I sinned. I told her not to call or come over with the negativity, that I needed people around me who were positive. Of course, it all worked out and she figured out she was not going to get me with that, because I do not believe that. I have been to that church and in no way would I find myself back there. I also know a couple of others that go there and their lives are very messed up, with no real help from Doyle. In fact, he abuses them verbally if they ask for help. For the life of me, our family is normal, and I cannot understand what they see in this man and this place. I pray daily that the church closes down and they cannot go again. I sincerely hope to see all the tv channels he is own do not accept him anymore. He spews venom. It is scary.
“Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.” (Matthew 10:16)
WE REFUSE TO REMAIN SILENT WHILE DOYLE DAVIDSON
LIES ABOUT AND INSULTS ALMIGHTY GOD.
The spellcheck,pick apart what a commentor posted one time police are not often allowed here.
This is a monitored forum,trolls(intentional troublemakers) will be silenced.
We Are focused on:
REFUSING TO REMAIN SILENT WHILE DOYLE AND HIS MINIONS
LIE ABOUT AND INSULT ALMIGHTY GOD.
Look,, these are often quik comments that we had and wanted to share with friends of like mind.
We dont think were better than you,doyle speaks lying blasphemy and
we will not remain silent.
So,,feel free to vent here,tell your doyle story,let us know what he said so we dont have to watch it
online.
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